radicaldank42
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can you use it as a super soil substrate?
subs supersoil
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st0wandgrow
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Absolutely
st0wandgrow
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Should be fine. Worst case scenario the microbes went dormant for a bit.
If you can, make a compost tea and wet it down with that a week or so before using it
alcohol
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yes
st0wandgrow
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I don't use guano, just castings and molasses but I suppose you could if you wanted to
sloppyseconds
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I wonder if i used styrofoam in my medium if it would have any advantages?
radicaldank42
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hmmm that sounds like a good idea but would it cause harm... hmmmm that's a good question
and alriht sounds like a idea goping to hunt up soime leafs and make a soilk out of it. have you tried using just the fan leafs from previous grows to make the leaf mold?
and alriht sounds like a idea goping to hunt up soime leafs and make a soilk out of it. have you tried using just the fan leafs from previous grows to make the leaf mold?
st0wandgrow
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I haven't used fan leaves for leaf mold, but I've used them for a mulch and I toss them in to my worm bin too.
Honestly you'd need an insane amount of fan leaves to make any substantial amount of leaf mold. The leaves really break down over time, so you'd have to be running a huge grow op to come up with enough leaves. I have 5 fully mature maple trees around my yard and I raked up all the leaves from those and fenced them off. After a couple months the pile was about 1/4 the size of what it was when I started it. Rough guess, but I bet I will have no more than 20-30 cf of leaf mold to work with when it's all said and done.
Vnsmkr
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I was actually thinking of getting a bunch of styrofoam and mashing the f out of it and mixing it in with my medium, but I think I will go with rice hulls instead since that means no work of mashing styrofoam
radicaldank42
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daumn, what if you bagged them up let them dry out them crush them up in a fine powder and save them till its enough? can you keep adding more leafs through time or will it make it take longer?
docter
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Styrofoam is too light and can float to the top if you water heavily.
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Stratification.
Styrofoam is too light and can float to the top if you water heavily.
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docter
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I haven't tried rice hulls. Good idea. I have heard of many members here add them to there soil.
radicaldank42
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hmmm rice hulls. sounds like were mainng some mean cuisine lol. also I was doing some research on teas and they said to add a cup of outside soil to the mix for a huge range in microbes and fungi is that a smart idea to introduce outside bacteria and such to the indoor grow or no? also ive been qaadding straw to my teas and shits been loving it every tea feed, also how many times you guys use teas? I brew one up after ever feed.
vegaorganic408
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im a firtst time supersoil mixer and thia is what ive come up with with excellent results.
4 cf coco
1cf pearlite
.2cf vermiculte
.2cf forest humus
.6cf mixed locally sourced horse, cow, chicken manures.
20lb homemade ewc
1lb fish bone meal
1lb bone meal
1lb blood meal
1lb feather meal
1lb bat guano (0-5-0)
1lb seabird guano (1-10-0)
1/2 lb langbeinite
2 cups neem seed meal
2 cups oyster shell
2 cups alfalfa meaL
2 cups kelp meal
1/4 cup epsom salt
1 cup azomite
1/2 cup granular humic acids
Water with tea made with soil mix every 2 weeks And Mix. Let soil sit or "cook" for at least 2 months. Preferably aroumd 75f-85f.
i suhgest building a small incubation box and heat that up To certain degree.
Ps. heating isnt necessary!!!! do what you can with what you have is always the beat way to go.
For liquids i love using
vegamatrix grow and bloom. Or
bio thrive gro and bloom
But always use vegamatrix prime zyme and vegamtrix cal mag supp, im possitive that this isnt like any other cal mag ive used before.
but then again theses are just my trials
5x10×9 grow tent
1 1000w raptor xxxl on track rolller
10 gdp in 5 gal (5 week veg in 1 gal, then 2 in 5 gal...7week total)(separate veg room of course)
super crop throughtout veg.
All utilities are on ceiling so max floor coverage.
Flowers come out to about 6.5 tall even after settimg dowm nets 4ft high.
Wish i cam show pictures but we havested just a little of 5 units
Just want a shoutout to subcool for teaching me the basics.
Eventually ill be using my own personal vegan and organic compst As bases.
2%er forever!!!
I alologize if i offended anyome as im here just to pass on any information i can and learn from you all as well.
4 cf coco
1cf pearlite
.2cf vermiculte
.2cf forest humus
.6cf mixed locally sourced horse, cow, chicken manures.
20lb homemade ewc
1lb fish bone meal
1lb bone meal
1lb blood meal
1lb feather meal
1lb bat guano (0-5-0)
1lb seabird guano (1-10-0)
1/2 lb langbeinite
2 cups neem seed meal
2 cups oyster shell
2 cups alfalfa meaL
2 cups kelp meal
1/4 cup epsom salt
1 cup azomite
1/2 cup granular humic acids
Water with tea made with soil mix every 2 weeks And Mix. Let soil sit or "cook" for at least 2 months. Preferably aroumd 75f-85f.
i suhgest building a small incubation box and heat that up To certain degree.
Ps. heating isnt necessary!!!! do what you can with what you have is always the beat way to go.
For liquids i love using
vegamatrix grow and bloom. Or
bio thrive gro and bloom
But always use vegamatrix prime zyme and vegamtrix cal mag supp, im possitive that this isnt like any other cal mag ive used before.
but then again theses are just my trials
5x10×9 grow tent
1 1000w raptor xxxl on track rolller
10 gdp in 5 gal (5 week veg in 1 gal, then 2 in 5 gal...7week total)(separate veg room of course)
super crop throughtout veg.
All utilities are on ceiling so max floor coverage.
Flowers come out to about 6.5 tall even after settimg dowm nets 4ft high.
Wish i cam show pictures but we havested just a little of 5 units
Just want a shoutout to subcool for teaching me the basics.
Eventually ill be using my own personal vegan and organic compst As bases.
2%er forever!!!
I alologize if i offended anyome as im here just to pass on any information i can and learn from you all as well.
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Pattahabi
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Dude, that's how you get that super chem glue #57 dankness!
Environmental effects
The EPA and International Agency for Research on Cancer have determined styrene as a possible human carcinogen.[8][9] The National Bureau of Standards Center for Fire Research found 57 chemical by-products released during the combustion of expanded polystyrene foam.[10]
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st0wandgrow
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Dude, that's how you get that super chem glue #57 dankness!
Environmental effects
The EPA and International Agency for Research on Cancer have determined styrene as a possible human carcinogen.[8][9] The National Bureau of Standards Center for Fire Research found 57 chemical by-products released during the combustion of expanded polystyrene foam.[10]
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Had the wife pick me up a box of kelp meal over the weekend and she got home only to find a warning label on the side that said "This product contains an ingredient known to cause cancer by the state of California".
WTF could that be? Only thing I can think of is it's probably not cold pressed and maybe the solvent that's used is the issue?
Pattahabi
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Was it kelp meal, or liquid kelp?
unwine99
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Fox farm ocean forest has the same label. I looked it up one time and it's because of cadmium. They say that it's naturally present and not added -- I'm pretty sure kelp has the stuff in it too.