Strongest Strain Known To Man?

pppfemguy said:

bullshit dude........how do u figure that growers in amsterdam use usa genetics do u have any proof??

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Have you been to seed bank sites? In the description of the strains it is not uncommon to have reference to CA or a KNOWN CA strain in the family tree. Watch some of the videos from greenhouse.nl there are a few that reference CA, pick up any cannabis mag and you will find something in there about how CA is KNOW for it's weed and genetics are used all over the world. A LOT of the seed distributers are located in CA (Apothecary Seeds, Magnus Seeds, ect.) they contract with many Dutch/British/Canadian companies to distribute their products for them since it is not allowed in the US. Do a little homework if you are going to fire off at someone....

Oh and this Texas Shoreline, maybe we will hear of it at the cannabis cup? Or is it just a local cowboy growing it in small batches? I am sure it is kick ass shit but the best? How do you decide what is best when two people can smoke the same shit and one person has a different effect then the other, it happens with weed very commonly, one is horny the other is hungry, one is couchlocked the other is wanting to go out and do something....

Look CA or Amsterdam, they both have killer shit and they both have shit that has genetics that are from the other location, not to mention they both have access to genetics from all over the world (Columbia, Thailand, India, Kush, Africa, Afghanistan, Moroco, ect) and THIS is what creates THE BEST VARIETY of weed... Potency alone is not what makes a good weed!

South Texas said:

Trying to harvest, got a rope around one bean stalk.... poor ass mule can't pull the bitch over.... The California method didn't work, wearing panties & trying to talk the Buds off the tree. I don't mind the Cali's acting like the coward French, but pleases don't compare Cal. & Texas. The goal is to learn & teach in this site, be glad to share growing methods, but step down when fucking with Texas. Southern Hospitality is a courtesy, just don't tread too much.

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im not from cali or texas or amsterdam but ive had weed from all 3 places and its juss when these dudes come on this claiming that cali has the strongest weed known to man THATS FUCKING BULLSHIT...dont get me wrong cali has some fire weed but not the strongest known to man and that is what this thread is about

ta2drvn said:

Have you been to seed bank sites? In the description of the strains it is not uncommon to have reference to CA or a KNOWN CA strain in the family tree. Watch some of the videos from greenhouse.nl there are a few that reference CA, pick up any cannabis mag and you will find something in there about how CA is KNOW for it's weed. A LOT of the seed distributers are located in CA, they contract with many Amsterdam and British companies to distribute their products for them since it is not allowed in the US. Do a little homework if you are going to fire off at someone....

Oh and this Texas Shoreline, maybe we will hear of it at the cannabis cup? Or is it just a local cowboy growing it in small batches? I am sure it is kick ass shit but the best? How do you decide what is best when two people can smoke the same shit and one person has a different effect then the other, it happens with weed very commonly, one is horny the other is hungry, one is couchlocked the other is wanting to go out and do something....

Look CA or Amsterdam they both have killer shit and they both have shit that has genetics that are from the other location, not to mention they both have access to genetics from all over the world (Columbia, Thailand, India, Kush, Africa, Afghanistan, Moroco, ect) and THIS is what creates THE BEST VARIETY of weed... Potency alone is not what makes a good weed!

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i dint say that cali has bad weed and i dint say that texas shoreline is the best all im sayin is that this thread is about the strongest strain known to man and i dont think cali weed is the strongest known to man thats the only point i was trying to make

Who said cali weed was the best known to man?

blackcoupe01 said:

Who said cali weed was the best known to man?

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look on page 30 of this thread

pppfemguy said:

i dint say that cali has bad weed and i dint say that texas shoreline is the best all im sayin is that this thread is about the strongest strain known to man and i dont think cali weed is the strongest known to man thats the only point i was trying to make

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Didn't say you did, you said:

"how do u figure that growers in amsterdam use usa genetics do u have any proof??"


I answered your question about proof, then I explained how IMO you can't really judge THE best, this was off topic you are correct.

As to strongest the ONLY way you could do this is to measure the THC content of even strain, then, you would have to sample a whole lot of strains in different environmental and light conditions with different types of nutrients and average some numbers to find out what strain consistently has the highest THC content (cause you could have ten plants in your grow and each one might have slightly different THC contents) and even then, it would depend on how the THC interacts with the CBD's and CBN's that give the affects that you are talking about. I mean they have pills that are 100% THC (you can't get more potent than that!) and people are able to function on it, yes they get high but similarly to smoking weed. Weed has a diminishing effect, there is a point that more is not necessarily better or will get you higher, instead you sleep or you have OD symptoms (easier to do with ingestion, mainly just sick to stomach and overall feel like shit).

pppfemguy said:

i dint say that texas shoreline is the best

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UM take a look at page 29....

sorry dude but cali doesnt have the best weed.........if anything the best weed in america comes from southern texas its called texas shoreline


I just cut and pasted........ your words, unless someone else was typing this one


OH and pg 30 doesn't have anyone saying Cali had the strongest...

ta2drvn said:

UM take a look at page 29....

sorry dude but cali doesnt have the best weed.........if anything the best weed in america comes from southern texas its called texas shoreline


I just cut and pasted........ your words, unless someone else was typing this one


OH and pg 30 doesn't have anyone saying Cali had the strongest...

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exactly dude u juss proved my point i was saying texas shoreline is the best in america well its the best ive had out of america DEF. NOT the strongest known to man juss is in america it is to me anyways so far the strongest ive had came outta amsterdam and thats what i said and this dude named bycycle racer or whatever his name is earlier in the thread said that cali has the strongest weed known to man and i quoted him cuz i second that i believe that amsterdam weed is stronger then cali weed and then america came up and i said texas shoreline is the strongest in america that ive had so far not the cali weed they were talking about and then the argument between texas shoreline and cali weed came up and so on and so on but really dude to me in america texas shoreline is the strongest ive tried so far and out of the whole world amsterdam had the best weed but ppl gotta member thats just MY OPINION doesnt mean its a fact ppl get there feelings hurt and hyped up over stupid shit all i said was in my expierence in smokin and my expierence in weed cali is not the strongest so ppl need to chill damn haha

ALX420 said:

weed from the malawi region in africa contains thcv. an extremely phsycoactive form of thc.

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ive stated before that the best weed i smoked came from seeds brought over from botsawana africa in the late 60,s when a family member working for cuso sent the seeds and some weed home to friends,just when you thought you were as high as you can get you soared higher,and it had the efect of being phsycoactive,the strain was lost when the main man had all the mothers and clones stolen,but it had to be put into flower right from clone and would still reach 5 feet,the originals grew as high as 20 feet,i saw the B&w pictures of those.But talk of a soaring high,it was and always will be stamped in my memory.I dont know why you never see to many genetics from africa,even crosses,but height might be the reason.

trapper said:

ive stated before that the best weed i smoked came from seeds brought over from botsawana africa in the late 60,s when a family member working for cuso sent the seeds and some weed home to friends,just when you thought you were as high as you can get you soared higher,and it had the efect of being phsycoactive,the strain was lost when the main man had all the mothers and clones stolen,but it had to be put into flower right from clone and would still reach 5 feet,the originals grew as high as 20 feet,i saw the B&w pictures of those.But talk of a soaring high,it was and always will be stamped in my memory.I dont know why you never see to many genetics from africa,even crosses,but height might be the reason.

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i just read that fact in a book. but its cool that someone has experience with it. im sure that the genetics are out there somewhere.

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well its just common knowledge the best weed comes from texas lol. i feel bad for some people

You guys are all wrong, the best weed comes from my closet!

bicycle racer said:

well its just common knowledge the best weed comes from texas lol. i feel bad for some people

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dude u juss need to get over the fact that the strongest weed known to man does NOT come from cali

im sorry i dont want to be mean but if you are a medical user in cali you have access to almost anything there is in the cannabis genome thats worth growing and smoking. it is not cali pride or that kind of crap just facts i have lived other places to. good cannabis can be found in alot of places but in cali it is everywhere this is common knowledge i grew up here but did not really see the diversity until i was able to get a medical recomendation because of the laws we are able to rapidly develop and perfect whatever strain we want. even before the medical movement cali was known for its strain development back in the 70's many current strains in amsterdam were developed from strains sent from cali. many seed bank owners come from cali. im not making this up look into it also look into (by state cannabis production) cali is 1 by a large margin

I've heard of yellow weed. My friends smoked it b4 i was also a stoner and they all took 1 bong hit. They said it was supposed to be some shit from africa, But apparently it fucked them up good. And they smoke a lot!

bicycle racer said:

mk-ultra is g-13/og kush... there is debate as to og k's true genes. it definetley is a hybrid

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I'm getting this information from "The Cannabible 3" by Jason King to clear up the mass confusion surrounding OG Kush, Sour Diesel and other related strains. He got the real story from the people who actually created Diesel and I believe him.

In the beginning there was Chem. Dawg is just Chem grown organically. Some seeds from this delicious Chem/Dawg (either a Chem/Dawg male or hermaphrodite Chem/Dawg fathered the seeds) were taken to Massachussets where they were grown. Seeds from that batch were given to a NYC grower who named his plants Diesel. A few years later a hermaphroditic Massachusetts Super Skunk pollinated the Diesel and from the seeds it created Sour Diesel and OG Kush were born.

Serius LeHigh III said:

I'm getting this information from "The Cannabible 3" by Jason King to clear up the mass confusion surrounding OG Kush, Sour Diesel and other related strains. He got the real story from the people who actually created Diesel and I believe him.

In the beginning there was Chem. Dawg is just Chem grown organically. Some seeds from this delicious Chem/Dawg (either a Chem/Dawg male or hermaphrodite Chem/Dawg fathered the seeds) were taken to Massachussets where they were grown. Seeds from that batch were given to a NYC grower who named his plants Diesel. A few years later a hermaphroditic Massachusetts Super Skunk pollinated the Diesel and from the seeds it created Sour Diesel and OG Kush were born.

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Source?

shamegame said:

Source?

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He has it pretty close to what the Cannabible (The Cannabible) gives as a history of the genetics of OG.

There is also some talk that the Colorado guys got pissed off when the NYC guys because they renamed the Chem Dawg to NYC Diesel, or something similar to this and at the time they moved from Colorado and were growing on the west coast and by the ocean somewhere and so they decided to call the West coast version of the NYC Diesel "OG or Ocean Grown" I may have a little missing out of this story, can't remember all the details..... I don't know this story has much merit but I guess that is how Urban Legends are uh?


Here I found this on another site.......

BC Bud Depot Forums > Qiuck ? Is Og Kush The Same As Sour Diesel

Originally posted by JJ-NYC
Let me give everyone a history lesson about the Diesel. The Chem Dawg was a unknown indica strain (Kush, HP, or NL?) old school, from Colorado. (Does anyone know what strain or its origin?)This is the original NYC DIESEL. Two friends met on Dead tour. A pound of Chem was mailed to Mass. around 93-94.Seeds were found and started. My friend met Mass.G. at Phish tour 93-94. Clones of the Chem Dawg and Super Skunk made their way to NYC. With no male, The Weasel crossed a Sensi NL male with the Super Skunk. Took a male and crossed it with the Chem Dawg creating the Underdawg Diesel or (Diesel no.1, Headband Diesel, or Daywrecker Diesel). Another strain in his room the DNL NL/Shiva(RFK)/Hawaiian cross) self seeded the Under Dawg a seed was grown and The Sour Diesel was created, no planned breeding, it just happened. This is the Diesel gospel. Everything else is BS including soma (who the fuck is soma?) I challenge anyone who questions this fact, for I have been involved with the Diesel since it came to NYC.


Originally posted by ThaDocta
soma got his diesel from a bagseed from a buddy from NYC or at least that’s how soma described it. his diesel could be an s1 of original diesel, underdawg, sour d, or any other b/c it sounds like all of them in nyc gets mixed up pretty easily (due to similar heritage)
unless you’re really in the loop and have access to all of them and know heritage. that leaves a range of options for soma's expression of his bagseed diesel momma. and yes, his nyc diesel is not pure diesel, his first hybrid that won the awards was that diesel bag
momma cross shanti's afghani/hawaiian male. i believe the current seeds sold by soma are a first backcross to his diesel mom.

So.....

Original Diesel = (SensiNL X MassSuperSkunk) X Dawg/Chem
Sour Diesel = [(SensiNL X MassSuperSkunk) X Dawg/Chem] X DNL
Soma's NYCD = Diesel Bagseed (probably orig, not sour) X (Afghani X Hawaiian)
DNL = RFK X Hawaiian
RFK = NL X Shiva

The sativa comes from skunk. Two different types Mass. Super Skunk, which was in the Under Dawg Diesel and RFK skunk which was bred into the DNL. The newest confirmed breeding. The DNL was a RFK skunk female/Hawaiian male x NL male. The breeding on this strain has been very unclear over the years . First thought to be a Diesel x NL cross
(that’s how it got its name DNL) this plant grows tall and stretches very similar growth to the Sour.

RFK was a skunk strain developed from seeds found in a bag scored at the 90-91? Dead shows at RFK there were 3 different versions of RFK Skunk 1,2,3. The strain was given to a friend with some Hawaiian seeds (still investigating source) and he crossed the two. Had a female and added some NL pollen (investigating source) creating the DNL, which hermi and seeded the Under Dawg Diesel. I know its confusing. But I think it should be like this...

Original Diesel = Dawg/Chem X (MassSuperSkunk X SensiNL)
Sour Diesel = Original Diesel X DNL
DNL = (RFK Skunk X Hawaiian) X NL
RFK = Skunk strain from RFK dead Shows 90-91

Some of the breeding was planned and some not. The Sour was not planned. The RFK's and stuff was around before the Diesel. Once they got a hold of the Chem they started breeding what they had into it. The DNL was the original cash crop before the Diesel and Sour. But was phased out after being taken over by the Diesel. Only the original breeder and a few have the strain now. Many different crosses were made seeds still exist but are over 10 years old. Once they created the Diesel they were contempt and stopped breeding.

Source: International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums - sourDeez flowerin

bicycle racer said:

im sorry i dont want to be mean but if you are a medical user in cali you have access to almost anything there is in the cannabis genome thats worth growing and smoking. it is not cali pride or that kind of crap just facts i have lived other places to. good cannabis can be found in alot of places but in cali it is everywhere this is common knowledge i grew up here but did not really see the diversity until i was able to get a medical recomendation because of the laws we are able to rapidly develop and perfect whatever strain we want. even before the medical movement cali was known for its strain development back in the 70's many current strains in amsterdam were developed from strains sent from cali. many seed bank owners come from cali. im not making this up look into it also look into (by state cannabis production) cali is 1 by a large margin

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the most/best weed is in california. no doubt. but this is about the strain. it all comes down to how it is grown. outdoor organic is the way to go in my opinion.