STRONGER STEMS

Greenthumbs256

Greenthumbs256

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anyone have any advise for stronger stems? I've noticed sometimes I get some really heavy buds and about 2 weeks before their done, half the plant is falling down and hanging over!

I know yoyo's are a solution and also Scrogging and stakes! but I'm looking for maybe some kinda supplement that will help the plant grow stronger stems able to support the massive buds they grow!
 
Southerner

Southerner

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Look into silica, dyna grow makes an inexpensive bottle of it. You can also pay about 10 times more for something like Mills brand Vitalize which is a more immediately able to be used by plants. There’s also organic inputs you can use such as horsetail that has silica.
 
ANC

ANC

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Greenthumbs256 said:
anyone have any advise for stronger stems? I've noticed sometimes I get some really heavy buds and about 2 weeks before their done, half the plant is falling down and hanging over!

I know yoyo's are a solution and also Scrogging and stakes! but I'm looking for maybe some kinda supplement that will help the plant grow stronger stems able to support the massive buds they grow!
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It is natural, the plant is bending down to present its flowers and seeds to the animals closer to the ground.
If you don't want it, don't do any topping or training so it makes a pine tree shape.

one thing I noticed is the flowers grow better supported than when the plant has to pick up its heads with turgor.
 
Achillesactual

Achillesactual

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If you are going to go the all organic route horsetails and brown rice hulls are loaded with silica.

Stems adapt to the forces imparted on them, much like our bones. Strength and conditioning increases our bone density. The same applies to the stems of your plant.
Rolling the stems in your fingers and creating small amounts of damage, or even more extreme; Bending them until they knuckle will cause them to strengthen and harden their connective tissue.

Obviously this also causes damage and will slightly stunt growth. So I only suggest doing such during vegetative growth.
 
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hyroot

hyroot

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Corn Seed sprout tea or coconut water.

Cytokinins promotes cell division which promotes lateral branching and shoot initiation. It strengthens lateral branches.

Ethylene strengthens stems and large branches.
 
INF Flux

INF Flux

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Achillesactual said:
If you are going to go the all organic route horsetails and brown rice hulls are loaded with silica.

Stems adapt to the forces imparted on them, much like our bones. Strength and conditioning increases our bone density. The same applies to the stems of your plant.
Rolling the stems in your fingers and creating small amounts of damage, or even more extreme; Bending them until they knuckle will cause them to strengthen and harden their connective tissue.

Obviously this also causes damage and will slightly stunt growth. So I only suggest doing such during vegetative growth.
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Very much this. I just give my plants a gentle shake every morning in veg. A bit of a wiggle. I'm lucky in that a friend has abundant horsetail I can harvest.
 
Greenthumbs256

Greenthumbs256

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hyroot said:
Corn Seed sprout tea or coconut water.

Cytokinins promotes cell division which promotes lateral branching and shoot initiation. It strengthens lateral branches.

Ethylene strengthens stems and large branches.
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I actually do use coconut powder and fresh aloe but usually only feed it to the girls about once a month! maybe I should step that up a tad!
 
LtlWilli

LtlWilli

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vostok said:
organics mean you take them outside and flop in the wind to strengthen them fibers

more so when very young later

I use bamboo stakes

good luck
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You are right.Let nature take care of it...Luckily, I have a big stand of bamboo to utilize...They have hybridized and cross-bred types to produce monster, heavy buds, but done nothing to improve stem strength. thru inheritance---..Why not throw some attention along those lines?
 
Bugeye

Bugeye

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Genetics plays a large roll in stem pliability and strength. Some strains will never stay up without support. Some strains you cannot LST.
 
vostok

vostok

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LtlWilli said:
You are right.Let nature take care of it...Luckily, I have a big stand of bamboo to utilize...They have hybridized and cross-bred types to produce monster, heavy buds, but done nothing to improve stem strength. thru inheritance---..Why not throw some attention along those lines?
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Yet more GM on our weed no thanks imo...move to Oklahoma, they claim the windiest state ...lol
 
LtlWilli

LtlWilli

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We live atop a big hill on the Post Oak Savannah part of Texas, and the wind is a constant here...Drying clothes on the line takes hardly any time at all.
 
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LinguaPeel

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Hulls (rice/buckwheat) and manual exercising (back forth side to side) plus longer veg time (I assume is why dispensary weed aside from being straight garbage has little micro faggy gay stems especially in Colorado)
 
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