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Auntie Janes Nursery said:

Not sure how you can sell genetics that can be cloned and then refer to them as "one of a kind". Dookie was always good peoples. Felt like he was short and to the point on here with business because he wasn't a paid advertiser so he kind of had to be. That is funny though that he wanted to keep his genetics out of certain areas.

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I would have to look back at exactly what was said but he claimed there was someone in TX trying to get his genetics and he wanted to get setup in OK first before he saturated the area with his genetics. Hope you are well my friend

Tangerine_ said:

I dont know if Dookie tests but I do and everything I've bought from him came back clean. Dookie/Kaka used to post on here and I think he's still active on other grow forums. He's very direct and to the point.

I'm all for testing and reporting individual reviews with sellers but this thread has taken quite a toxic turn with a few brand sock accounts throwing shade in every direction to see what sticks.

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Take it as you will.. I messaged him and said plainly
"are your clones hlv free and do you test for it? "
He replied "no but your momma has viruses"
Then blocked me. I left his response out to preserve his dignity.

And.. This definitely is not toxic at all.. This isn't a witch hunt. On the other hand I will be making a point of calling out sellers who sell large volumes of clones to the community and don't test anything. If it was me I'd feel like I had Moral responsibility.

So either way I'll be talking to all the clone vendors I meet and if they don't test or are sketchy I'll tell people. I might start a review thread hopefully some of you guys will participate? I think it would be good for the benefit of the growing community.

Sqwee said:

I highly doubt he's testing for HLV, hardly anyone is but he's one of the few vendors I could find reviews and results from people that grew cuts from him and would respond quickly to any questions I had.

Actual results mean more than a screenshot of test results and a picture of a vegging cut in a tray and I'm not seeing too many actual result posts in here.

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Yeah but it's $25 a test! since most strains go for $250.. Hell a pack of seeds nowadays is 250 to 300. 25 isnt much at all. Just stick some leaves in a vacuum bag and post them. I was actually surprised how cheap it is.

Sqwee said:

I highly doubt he's testing for HLV, hardly anyone is but he's one of the few vendors I could find reviews and results from people that grew cuts from him and would respond quickly to any questions I had.

Actual results mean more than a screenshot of test results and a picture of a vegging cut in a tray and I'm not seeing too many actual result posts in here.

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What do you consider actual results? I'm fully in agreeance that a distant shot of a vegging plant is not good enough to call out as sick as there is so many factors to be considered but how is a positive lab test not considered actual results?

sunsetdaydreamer said:

Yeah but it's $25 a test! since most strains go for $250.. Hell a pack of seeds nowadays is 250 to 300. 25 isnt much at all. Just stick some leaves in a vacuum bag and post them. I was actually surprised how cheap it is.

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Yea prices are ridiculous and I don't even bother with anyone charging that much. I wanted to get some Pre-98 and Sour D from Dookie until I saw what he was charging.

I agree with you testing should be standard especially at those prices. I also think growing out the cut you're selling should be standard. No reason these vendors can't verify their cuts and provide their own grow pictures instead of ripping them off reddit and Instagram or just showing me a cut in a tray that could be anything.

All Strainly and the clone game has taught me is its a waste of money and time. I'm better off popping seeds and pollen chucking. None of these hype strains get me any higher or taste better than what I can find myself.

bulletxs said:

What do you consider actual results? I'm fully in agreeance that a distant shot of a vegging plant is not good enough to call out as sick as there is so many factors to be considered but how is a positive lab test not considered actual results?

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Actual results, as in the vendor has flowered it out verified it and can provide their own pictures, customers have purchased from you and have shown their results and vouch for your cuts being legit. I asked this of Dookie and he was able to provide me with shots of his own grow and links to customer results.

Other than if a plant is disease free what does a lab test for viruses prove? I can call any plant in my garden Gelato or Gary Payton and show you a rooting cut or another tactic that's very common, just pull bud shots from someone's dispensary pickup off reddit, doesn't prove a damn thing really.

It's not hard to sell fake cuts and customers won't know any better until months later if at all. So yea I want more than a test result for diseases, I want to be shown results of what your cut has done in your customers grows and yours.

Sqwee said:

Actual results, as in the vendor has flowered it out verified it and can provide their own pictures, customers have purchased from you and have shown their results and vouch for your cuts being legit. I asked this of Dookie and he was able to provide me with shots of his own grow and links to customer results.

Other than if a plant is disease free what does a lab test for viruses prove? I can call any plant in my garden Gelato or Gary Payton and show you a rooting cut or another tactic that's very common, just pull bud shots from someone's dispensary pickup off reddit, doesn't prove a damn thing really.

It's not hard to sell fake cuts and customers won't know any better until months later if at all. So yea I want more than a test result for diseases, I want to be shown results of what your cut has done in your customers grows and yours.

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Totally agree. Just misunderstood what you were saying originally.

bulletxs said:

Totally agree. Just misunderstood what you were saying originally.

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Yea, my wording sucked I see where it could throw people off.

I started a thread because no one else had yet

Hope we can all use it to share info

Sqwee said:

Yea, my wording sucked I see where it could throw people off.

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I completely agree most pics are pulled from the actual breeder websites.

Sqwee said:

Actual results, as in the vendor has flowered it out verified it and can provide their own pictures, customers have purchased from you and have shown their results and vouch for your cuts being legit. I asked this of Dookie and he was able to provide me with shots of his own grow and links to customer results.

Other than if a plant is disease free what does a lab test for viruses prove? I can call any plant in my garden Gelato or Gary Payton and show you a rooting cut or another tactic that's very common, just pull bud shots from someone's dispensary pickup off reddit, doesn't prove a damn thing really.

It's not hard to sell fake cuts and customers won't know any better until months later if at all. So yea I want more than a test result for diseases, I want to be shown results of what your cut has done in your customers grows and yours.

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Agree with all of this. Anyone can post a screenshot of test results. All those prove is that particular sample was pathogen free. The tissue sent in could've come from a brand new vegging plant started from seed and label (insert hype name here)

Tests are just one small aspect and are only as good as the word of the person sending.
I like to see grow logs with finished flowers and/or a strong presence on the forums by the seller/trader. Another reason I miss the old "rep" system.

And I dont have much confidence in the Strainly review system either so regardless, those cuts will still need to go into quarantine because that facet trading clones hasn't changed. Its just gotten a little more refined past scoping and dunking.
At the end of the day, the onus is the grower to ensure we're introducing clean plants to our rooms.

K, rant over. I'm "testing" a new batch of rosin so forgive my yapping,

The fact that this can come from multiple vectors the only way to be sure is to test from the source. Understandably tests could be manipulated in multiple scenarios and that just has to be the character of the individual I guess and should be taken in to consideration but honestly it it is almost as much to buy brand new clones than it is to test so to keep testing something for no reason is almost wasteful and counterproductive.

No you just test the mothers then isolate new plants and test before introducing to the rest. And as a back up security for your customers you can test all mothers every few months or something

Shout out to Mainly Organics! If those are legit you a god!!!! Nice roots!!!!

Sqwee said:

I have 3 in flower at different stages, 6 weeks, 4 weeks and 2 weeks all healthy and looking great from Dookiefarms. I took cuts and they were slow to root but once they get going they veg stupid fast and the stretch in flower is no joke, around 2-3x. Dookies clones are legit and healthy, not sure about Shinobi, I wasn't impressed with my interaction with Shinobi and will not buy from him.

Tried to snap some pics for you so you can compare when you put yours in flower, lights are off so my phone is having trouble focusing, this is the best I can get right now.

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Just flipped mine into flower tonight from dookie. Clones took 10 days to root. I would have a week ago but I’ve had COVID Today is day 12 so it’s finally going away and a excruciatingly painful pinched nerve in my neck since a week before I got COVID so needless to say I’ve been in a lot of pain lol. I need to get in there and defoliate I’m hoping in the next week I’ll be able to do so since my pinched nerve is starting to feel better now. Sorry about the sob story just been a BITCH of the last 2 weeks. These pics make me happy about cookies gmo cut. Also have his sour D cut and OG cut will be flowering them out in the coming months

428grower said:

Just flipped mine into flower tonight from dookie. Clones took 10 days to root. I would have a week ago but I’ve had COVID Today is day 12 so it’s finally going away and a excruciatingly painful pinched nerve in my neck since a week before I got COVID so needless to say I’ve been in a lot of pain lol. I need to get in there and defoliate I’m hoping in the next week I’ll be able to do so since my pinched nerve is starting to feel better now. Sorry about the sob story just been a BITCH of the last 2 weeks. These pics make me happy about cookies gmo cut. Also have his sour D cut and OG cut will be flowering them out in the coming months

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Damn...Get better bro...

OP

428grower said:

Just flipped mine into flower tonight from dookie. Clones took 10 days to root. I would have a week ago but I’ve had COVID Today is day 12 so it’s finally going away and a excruciatingly painful pinched nerve in my neck since a week before I got COVID so needless to say I’ve been in a lot of pain lol. I need to get in there and defoliate I’m hoping in the next week I’ll be able to do so since my pinched nerve is starting to feel better now. Sorry about the sob story just been a BITCH of the last 2 weeks. These pics make me happy about cookies gmo cut. Also have his sour D cut and OG cut will be flowering them out in the coming months

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I took the oldest one out of the tent and snapped some more pictures for you, this is week 6 almost 7. Just straight nasty smelling lol, garlicy, burnt rubber, locker room funk.

Hope you feel better!

Reading about Pink Box got my interest peaked. I believe facts should be presented to support the claims anything else is an opinion. I submitted the four samples below to Dark Heart Nursery.

• Gorrila Butter (Obtained from pink box)
• Apple Fritter (Obtained from Mainley over a year ago)
• Tropicana Cherry (Obtained from Mainley over a year ago)
• Lambsbread (personal cut).

Luckily I didn't contaminate any of my clones with his and will burn the gorilla butter. Below is also a picture of the gorilla butter so you can see what a dudded plant looks like. I had my suspicions when it was growing as it was showing what looked like a nutrient deficiency but every other plant was fine. Very unfortunate as I was looking forward to growing this one out. I'll submit another sample in a couple weeks to ensure my plants are clean.

LGND said:

Reading about Pink Box got my interest peaked. I believe facts should be presented to support the claims anything else is an opinion. I submitted the four samples below to Dark Heart Nursery.

• Gorrila Butter (Obtained from pink box)
• Apple Fritter (Obtained from Mainley over a year ago)
• Tropicana Cherry (Obtained from Mainley over a year ago)
• Lambsbread (personal cut).

Luckily I didn't contaminate any of my clones with his and will burn the gorilla butter. Below is also a picture of the gorilla butter so you can see what a dudded plant looks like. I had my suspicions when it was growing as it was showing what looked like a nutrient deficiency but every other plant was fine. Very unfortunate as I was looking forward to growing this one out. I'll submit another sample in a couple weeks to ensure my plants are clean.

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Looks almost exactly like the White truffle cut I got from PBC that I tossed. The leaf coloration, structure, and branching all are way too similar compared to a healthy plant. Having personally dealt with HpLVd, once you see it you know it.

The plant on the left looks like a mirror image of pink boxes MB15. I had an MB15 cut from years back and I knew early on this was either not the same cut or had an infection. Small leaves and there is a distinct way the growth stays cupped upwards. I call it spikey growth. Along with that, the plant was overall stunted and the stems were thin and brittle. Their Terple17 + SLH has tested negative multiple times but I don't think that should put people's minds at ease. They are likely spreading it amongst their own collection.