STORE BOUGHT SYSTEM Reviews

Hey guys, I bought the CAP 12 site ebb and flow bucket system about 8 months ago. It was my first grow, and I tried to go all out. The complete system cost me $600. The system works very well, but if I could do it over again, I would have gone with a 3x3 flood table. I wanted to do a perp harvest, and it is just not possible with the 12 site system. You have 1 reservoir, which means you can only have a set of plants at a time. My first grow was from seed, vegged for about 2 months, then flowered for an additional 2 months. The plants were huge, one touching the roof (8 ft) and bent down an additional 2-3 ft. I ended up harvesting 6 plants, because some were males. I also didn't regulate ph as good as I should have, but the plants still grew well. I harvested about 14-18 ounces off my first grow, but completely screwed up the drying/curing process. I tried to rush it, and regret I did. Some of the weed smelled and tasted like hay, while others were pretty tasty. I learned my lesson. I currently have 8 plants with the 12 site system, and plants are looking good. If you only want to grow 1 set of plants, I would reccommend this sytem, but you could probably diy for a lot cheaper. I was a newb, and wanted a good system. If you want to run a perp system, I would go with flood tables, and use the 12 site for mothers. It grows huge plants with little maintenance. Overall, good system, but make sure you do your research on the type of grow you want to do, and look around for deals. Many store bought systems can be easily made by yourself if you know the concept behind the system. Don't go buy something, if you are not completely sure that that is the style you want to grow. Figure out how you want to grow, and look into systems that fit your needs. There is a sytem for everyone, and it is your responsibility to figure out what it is. Hope this helps.

Just found this post through Google. I know it's old, but I was just watching the video on the 2010 Homegrown Hydroponics Economy grow box and it looks like it has been rebuilt from the ground up to solve any existing problems it may have had with a past design.

http://store.homegrown-hydroponics.com/ecgrboxbecug.html

Has anyone heard of any updates on the SuperCloset brands? Im looking to pick up a BCNL Producer but Im most worried about heat issues. I live in an apartment so stealth and space is an issue and I live in Arizona so heat is definitely an issue. I've been seeing complaints about heat issues on the Producer so i'm looking into other options. Ive considered building my own but hydro shops aren't cheap here. Ive only heard a couple reviews on the SuperCloset ones. Any suggestions? Im leaning toward the producer. I want to produce at least 1-3lbs of yield.

SeVeReD said:

Has anyone heard of any updates on the SuperCloset brands? Im looking to pick up a BCNL Producer but Im most worried about heat issues. I live in an apartment so stealth and space is an issue and I live in Arizona so heat is definitely an issue. I've been seeing complaints about heat issues on the Producer so i'm looking into other options. Ive considered building my own but hydro shops aren't cheap here. Ive only heard a couple reviews on the SuperCloset ones. Any suggestions? Im leaning toward the producer. I want to produce at least 1-3lbs of yield.

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if i was u i would not believe all the reviews u here! i have a bloom box and i was told u should be able to grow about a pound every cycle, and its just not trew. if u are able to finish a cycle without mold or root rot, it takes about 14 plants @ 4 ft tall to harvest a pound. do you think that you can fit 14 four foot plants in that box. with high heat and poor ventilation and expect to bring them full term , 9 weeks? with no troubles, good luck. if you are set on getting one you may want to invest in a water chiller and more fans. but thats just my opinion i have spent over five thousand dollars on this system trying to make it work . if it was going to work it would have.

fishenfool06 said:

if i was u i would not believe all the reviews u here! i have a bloom box and i was told u should be able to grow about a pound every cycle, and its just not trew. if u are able to finish a cycle without mold or root rot, it takes about 14 plants @ 4 ft tall to harvest a pound. do you think that you can fit 14 four foot plants in that box. with high heat and poor ventilation and expect to bring them full term , 9 weeks? with no troubles, good luck. if you are set on getting one you may want to invest in a water chiller and more fans. but thats just my opinion i have spent over five thousand dollars on this system trying to make it work . if it was going to work it would have.

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I'd say it's better than the bloombox and cheaper too...

SeVeReD said:

Has anyone heard of any updates on the SuperCloset brands? Im looking to pick up a BCNL Producer but Im most worried about heat issues. I live in an apartment so stealth and space is an issue and I live in Arizona so heat is definitely an issue. I've been seeing complaints about heat issues on the Producer so i'm looking into other options. Ive considered building my own but hydro shops aren't cheap here. Ive only heard a couple reviews on the SuperCloset ones. Any suggestions? Im leaning toward the producer. I want to produce at least 1-3lbs of yield.

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I've never used a "stealth" system (although I took a look at a buddy's POS many moons ago), so take this for what it's worth, but I couldn't imagine pulling even one (and I gotta believe you're smoking crack thinking you'd get three or even two elbows) off of a little runt system, even if it's got a 600 in there (obviously a 1000 would be impossible).

Now, I'm sure there are a select few growers on earth who actually could and do pull a pound off of one of those things, but the fact that you're asking about it and giving a range of 1-3 pounds as your goal makes me think you're not at that level of expertise.

Even though it may be called "The Producer", it's really just a hobby system for personal smoke, IMHO.

Anyways, whatever you choose, good luck.

I own a supercloset superflower. I like it, but no longer use the hydro stuff. I go organic soil.

My main complaint about it is that it is VERY loud and that the cabinet routinely reaches 90ºF. Has anyone switched out the 4" exhaust fans that come with it?

Does anybody have ideas for how to make these fans more quiet or have suggestions on different 4" fans?

Your help is very much appreciated.

BILLDO

i am using the aerogarden, as this is my first grow i havent changed anything on the ag itself. the seem to be growing well. ii am ready to send to flower, so my next challenge is to get the light on 12/12 without spending any money, what a tight arse lol. im turning them off manually at 7pm and they are coming on at 7am, so so far so good.

i germinated my seeds in the ag and they all sprouted within 2 to 3 days, i here alot of people have trouble with this but it worked for me. i have removed 3 plants as they were very small, so i now have 4 healthy plants. i cut the tops off and a few of the bigger leaves to get light to the bottom.

will let you know when they flower, but having a great time and would highly recommend the Aroegarden to anyone wanting a nice simple and neat setup.

Bob Smith said:

I've never used a "stealth" system (although I took a look at a buddy's POS many moons ago), so take this for what it's worth, but I couldn't imagine pulling even one (and I gotta believe you're smoking crack thinking you'd get three or even two elbows) off of a little runt system, even if it's got a 600 in there (obviously a 1000 would be impossible).

Now, I'm sure there are a select few growers on earth who actually could and do pull a pound off of one of those things, but the fact that you're asking about it and giving a range of 1-3 pounds as your goal makes me think you're not at that level of expertise.

Even though it may be called "The Producer", it's really just a hobby system for personal smoke, IMHO.

Anyways, whatever you choose, good luck.

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my bloom box is a P.O.S. i keep saying that and nobody listens. im tired of beating this dead horse. if you all want to try a stealth system go for it! we all will here from you all later , when your system is ph lock up or heat stresed , and your shit looks like hell. after you have spent thousands of dollars trying to grow a couple of runts. and end up with under developed moldy swag, dont listen to people who have been there before. good luck !

billdo said:

I own a supercloset superflower. I like it, but no longer use the hydro stuff. I go organic soil.

My main complaint about it is that it is VERY loud and that the cabinet routinely reaches 90ºF. Has anyone switched out the 4" exhaust fans that come with it?

Does anybody have ideas for how to make these fans more quiet or have suggestions on different 4" fans?

Your help is very much appreciated.

BILLDO

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Anybody have advice on a fan replacement that would be VERY quiet but still move enough air?

Thanks for the response, Roseman. That looks pretty damn good!

Do you have one of these? Is it on a cabinet?

I use CFLs and don't need to VENT any HEAT.

I have two friends that do have it, on this thread that have tents:

Questions about Bubbleponic Growing Thread

billdo, why did you go to soil? I am considering buying the Superflower, but I am amazed at the limited information and/or reviews on it out there. I have searched all over the web and the input in minimal. I don't think I have read any review that I truly believe. I would love to hear something like "I strated a grow and was very satisfieded" Maybe even an added "little less, more, or about what I expected in a yield".

There are a few reviews out there that are obviously Supercloset staff, "PROS: Everything - CONS - just a little pricey" Duh! You seem to be one of the few that has spoken specifically to the Superflower and appears trustworthy. Would you buy it again?

Honestly. Don't buy one. You could easily build something WAY better and WAY cheaper. The stock fans are noisy pieces of crap. It sounds like an aircraft ready to take off.

I still use the cab, the HPS, and currently the fans, and that piece of shit Odorsok carbon filter that didn't do any good whatsoever. I installed a 4" can filter from Foothill Filters that removed ALL of the odor.


I ditched the hydro for a couple of reasons.

1) I find it easier to regulate the size of the plant in soil. You can use The limited root space to your advantage.

2) I got very into organics, and I like the concept of a plant growing how it was meant... sort of. Haha!

3) That hydro system was impossible to drain, clean, and maintain. The soil is on autopilot. I still use nutes... just different ones.

It should be noted that I DID grow 3 times with the hydro system and had good results... my best yield per plant came from using Advanced Nutrients Sensi in hydro... but the cons far outweighed the pros.

wveers98 said:

billdo, why did you go to soil? I am considering buying the Superflower, but I am amazed at the limited information and/or reviews on it out there. I have searched all over the web and the input in minimal. I don't think I have read any review that I truly believe. I would love to hear something like "I strated a grow and was very satisfieded" Maybe even an added "little less, more, or about what I expected in a yield".

There are a few reviews out there that are obviously Supercloset staff, "PROS: Everything - CONS - just a little pricey" Duh! You seem to be one of the few that has spoken specifically to the Superflower and appears trustworthy. Would you buy it again?

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Thanks for the great explanation. I am going to just spend the time to research and build my own. I also like your explanation on the use of soil and that will most likely be the basis of my build. I just started a fungi grow two weeks ago, so I think I focus on getting some success there before moving on in this arena. I truly appreciate the info!

I bought the BC Northern Lights Bloombox. It works great, a little tricky to get the timing to switch over to flower so you don't grow them too big. I've done two grows in it now and will make a couple modifications, such as placing it on a bench 4 ft in the air, drilling a hole in the bottom of the reservoir to drain from the bottom vs. running the pump. Odor control could use some tweaking as well. Don't think the fan pushes enough air out of the filter. Other than that, it has been flawless and great customer support.

Billdo!

Congratulation on the clear thought process that lead you to your decision. DIfferent growing styles for different people is the norm, I suspect.

For me hydro provided the mathimatical measurement that I was looking for in my grow style.

I grew and still grow tomatoes outside but could only guess at the nutritional requirement based on what the plant was telling me. That along with my lack of desire to improve ( I don't rally like tomatoes but the wife LOVES them)

I have to admit that I was much less informed about soil in general even though I had worked with it for many years. It could be that I found the right kind of help from the people at RIU. Could also be that I was looking for a challenge.

Hydro takes more tools to manage than soil and as you probably know the yeilds are justifiable to support the investment if you re in need of this plant.

I wish you well and safe journey on your grow adventure!

Has any one ever tried these DWC Buckets?

http://www.stealthhydroponics.com/product.php?xProd=93&xSec=61

Would it be worth it? or would this be easy to construct?

It does come down to whether you are handy or not. Simple enough to construct. If you price out the parts you looking at between $25-30. Bucket (dark color or at least light proof) - $5, 10" net pot - $5. Air pump and air hoses - $10, Drain - $5, couple of rockwool cubes - $1 (but you can only get them in larger packs around $10), hydrotron - $5 (again you usually buy in bulk) and things like a 3/8" and 5/8" bit to drill a hole for the air line and drain.

To me it's a fair price since I'm not particularly handy and really need something to blame if something goes wrong! LOL!