still having yellowing and spotting problem.

ii dP ii

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so I posted a thread a few weeks ago, had spotting and yellowing... was suggested to switch back to tap water from distilled tap water.... no change


temps have been a bit low, probably in the 60's lights on maybe even mid-low 50's lights out. I've been fighting trying to keep it steady. anyway, pics...


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Cpappa27

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Its deficient in almost everything by the looks of it. How is the ph of your soil, you may nute lockout man. And it looks overwatered. Idk I cant tell I need more info on you grow.
 

dannyboy602

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definitely a few issues. probably too late to fix and have an effect on your buds. next grow make sure you add some lime to your mix. that gives you your calcium and magnesium which is lacking now.
 

Silky Shagsalot

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what are you ph'ing your feed/water? if you have the ph wrong, it's hard to know what's really wrong, until that's right. if you haven't been ph'ing, i suggest a good flush, and then ph everything properly.
 

Guitar Man

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so I posted a thread a few weeks ago, had spotting and yellowing... was suggested to switch back to tap water from distilled tap water.... no change


temps have been a bit low, probably in the 60's lights on maybe even mid-low 50's lights out. I've been fighting trying to keep it steady. anyway, pics...


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Your temps are too low. Plant looks waaaaaay over-nuted or/and over-watered.
 

ii dP ii

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That plant had about a half a gallon of water once in over 6 days in a 3 gallon pot. If it's overwatered I don't know what I'm doing wrong.
 

ii dP ii

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and as far as pH I really can't be sure, I only have a digital meter. it reads between 5.0 and 6.0 depending on if the soil is a bit damp or not respectively.

this plant has been giving me trouble ever since re-vegging... I will not make that mistake again.

I will flush again with regular tap water, which I have no way to check the pH of, but it's been doing fine for the other plant, and the grow before this.... hopefully it helps.
 

ii dP ii

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anybody else? I get you all think she's overwatered, so I'll hold off on that even more and see what it does.

say we assume my meter is accurate at 6.0 pH, and the soil's pH isn't really that bad. what then? given that I only have the FF trio, and alaska fish fert. I could spend maybe a little money on additives at this point, but I don't know what I'd be looking for.
 

plaguedog

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I don't think it has anything to do with over watering. It does look like salt build up in the medium though, and you said you re-vegged her? When you have an established plant like that, unless your medium has terrible drainage or completely compacted, watering should not be a problem.

The way it's yellowing up and the leaves cupped and curled under tell me it's trying to stop transpiration due to salt build up (over fertilization).
 

Silky Shagsalot

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and as far as pH I really can't be sure, I only have a digital meter. it reads between 5.0 and 6.0 depending on if the soil is a bit damp or not respectively.
having a meter in your medium is not how you ph. you have to adjust the feed/water. all the soil things do is measure the results of what you've been pouring on the plants. (actually, those things are a waste of money.) if you can't/don't adjust the ph of your feeds/watering, then it makes no difference what those meters read. if you don't eliminate ph as a problem, then there's no way, in most cases, to tell what's really wrong.
 

ii dP ii

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I don't think it has anything to do with over watering. It does look like salt build up in the medium though, and you said you re-vegged her? When you have an established plant like that, unless your medium has terrible drainage or completely compacted, watering should not be a problem.

The way it's yellowing up and the leaves cupped and curled under tell me it's trying to stop transpiration due to salt build up (over fertilization).
well I think I'm going to flush her good and just quit with the nutes for the rest of her flowering.... it's the beginning of week 8 of flower starting wednesday... this plant, since it's a reveg, plus the stress from all the shit I've put it through, I'm letting it go at least 12 weeks, maybe longer if it still doesn't look done... I have another plant in the room that's in much better shape, however it's much smaller (1gal pot), and not re-vegged. I think it's a different strain too. they are both bagseed from some good mids I had. this is only my second grow, so I didn't want to waste money on good seeds until I had a few grows under my belt. so next run I'm thinking one white widow x big bud and one skunk #1.
 

ii dP ii

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having a meter in your medium is not how you ph. you have to adjust the feed/water. all the soil things do is measure the results of what you've been pouring on the plants. (actually, those things are a waste of money.) if you can't/don't adjust the ph of your feeds/watering, then it makes no difference what those meters read. if you don't eliminate ph as a problem, then there's no way, in most cases, to tell what's really wrong.

so I should get like a pH tester kit? like with the drops? are the pH pens for liquids that aren't like 100$ worth a fuck?
 

Silky Shagsalot

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so I should get like a pH tester kit? like with the drops? are the pH pens for liquids that aren't like 100$ worth a fuck?
i like using a meter/ph pen, there are a few different ways to go, and price ranges. you also need something to adjust the ph up/down. i use pro-tekt, for up. once you have the ph under control, you'll have a much better idea of what issues you need to address...
 

Bakatare666

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To me, it looks very hungry, and most likely rootbound if that's only a 3 gallon pot, but that isn't something you should stress over with what time it looks like is left on it.
I wouldn't up your feed at all either, until you get your PH up FIRST.
5-6 is too low for soil if 6 is all you show when soil is wet.
Most of the time I check my soil wet, it's closer to mid-high 8 right after watering, but close to mid 6's when dry.
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smegpot

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That plant had about a half a gallon of water once in over 6 days in a 3 gallon pot. If it's overwatered I don't know what I'm doing wrong.
Half a gallon in one shot is way too much water for that size plant. Your drenching it. Try 3 cups of water twice a day. Its like asking you to drink a gallon of water in 5 minutes to keep you hydrated for the next 3 days...not healthy to you...why would it be healthy for the plant. Plants in nature get small drabs from morning and evening dew and what little they find with the tap root. Not a torrent every 3 days and drought.
 

plaguedog

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To me, it looks very hungry, and most likely rootbound if that's only a 3 gallon pot, but that isn't something you should stress over with what time it looks like is left on it.
I wouldn't up your feed at all either, until you get your PH up FIRST.
5-6 is too low for soil if 6 is all you show when soil is wet.
Most of the time I check my soil wet, it's closer to mid-high 8 right after watering, but close to mid 6's when dry.
Take a look at his leaves. See the cupping and curling under? The plant is trying to stop transpiration because it's having problems taking up water through the root zone. That is usually an indicator of salt build up in the media.

Half a gallon in one shot is way too much water for that size plant. Your drenching it. Try 3 cups of water twice a day. Its like asking you to drink a gallon of water in 5 minutes to keep you hydrated for the next 3 days...not healthy to you...why would it be healthy for the plant. Plants in nature get small drabs from morning and evening dew and what little they find with the tap root. Not a torrent every 3 days and drought.
That's crazy. With a healthy root system and good planting medium my plants in 3 gallon pots can drink almost a complete gallon of water or nutrient solution with minimal runoff. a 1/2 gallon isn't to much by any means.
 

ii dP ii

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^ I was going to say, I get zero run off with 1/2 gallon. in the 3 gal pot if I don't use at least 3/4 of a gallon of water I don't have any run off at all.
 

ii dP ii

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To me, it looks very hungry, and most likely rootbound if that's only a 3 gallon pot, but that isn't something you should stress over with what time it looks like is left on it.
I wouldn't up your feed at all either, until you get your PH up FIRST.
5-6 is too low for soil if 6 is all you show when soil is wet.
Most of the time I check my soil wet, it's closer to mid-high 8 right after watering, but close to mid 6's when dry.
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are you using the meter you stick down in the soil to take these measurements? or are you doing it by pHing the feed/water and then testing runoff?

my meter reads lower when the soil is wet. 5.0 if it's wet 6.0 if it's dry.
 
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