Stick like buds that don't fatten up just produce lots of leaves

chris692

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Same. Nothing good heard about barney's & lots of complaints. Seen one too many bad reviews on Nirvana & What's black skull?
Black Skull is another breeder I found on the Sensible seed bank site. Can you recommend a good breeder., I'm in Australia. I was just going to stop then buy more seeds then start back up and see if they do the same. I spent close to $900 Australian dollars on the seeds and have been very disappointed but I still keep thinking it must be me not bad geneitics.
 

HydroKid239

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Black Skull is another breeder I found on the Sensible seed bank site. Can you recommend a good breeder., I'm in Australia. I was just going to stop then buy more seeds then start back up and see if they do the same. I spent close to $900 Australian dollars on the seeds and have been very disappointed but I still keep thinking it must be me not bad geneitics.
ILGM has some good genetics and they have a germination guarantee 100% or they replace the seed. I have a Blue Haze growing from them now.
15 days from sprout. 4" tall. IMG_5549.JPG
 

chris692

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As long as its a heathy version of the same one. For reference
They have been but most of my plants have been from seed. But due to this problem I was told to take clones so if they turn out good I can keep the strain instead of re-vegging. Still I want to just grow from seed because I will stop over the summer months as it's too hot.
 

HydroKid239

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1st thread... the author hasn't been seen since the day of the post.
 

HydroKid239

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Thanks for that I was look at ILGM the other day and they do post to Australia so I will give them a go. I will be so P off if I find all the seeds I purchased are dudes.
If you buy female seeds from ILGM and get males, they will replace the males. Free. Can't lose. I took the chance and ordered from them. 10 seeds.. so far 3/3 popped.
 

chris692

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1st thread... the author hasn't been seen since the day of the post.
I have come across other forums about people growing from start to finish with cmh. My mates friends all grow with these bulbs and have great results and good yields. I have a HPS now and if this fixes the problem I will be happy.
 

pulpoinspace

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check the threads with the most comments in em. safest bets that come to mind are Bodhi, and greenpoint, which is the only breeder i can recommend myself, heisenbeans and greenpoint.

As for the CMH question i don't think the spectrum is to blame. but like i said earlier it could be a problem with the ballasts or the bulbs themselves. HPS does out yield CMH by most accounts but not so drastically. if you have low yielding strains under cmh though you might see very small yields.
 

chris692

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If you buy female seeds from ILGM and get males, they will replace the males. Free. Can't lose. I took the chance and ordered from them. 10 seeds.. so far 3/3 popped.
Sounds good I will stop after this one and kill all the clones no point growing another batch just to have the same problem I will buy some seeds from ILGM and next time switch to my HPS for flowering. If after that I still have this problem I will just have to stop.
 

HydroKid239

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Sounds good I will stop after this one and kill all the clones no point growing another batch just to have the same problem I will buy some seeds from ILGM and next time switch to my HPS for flowering. If after that I still have this problem I will just have to stop.
Why not pop in the HPS bulbs and finish them out? (If there is an active flower cycle) It may take a little longer, but why waste an entire veg cycle? at the least you will get some good edibles, or hash.
 

chris692

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check the threads with the most comments in em. safest bets that come to mind are Bodhi, and greenpoint, which is the only breeder i can recommend myself, heisenbeans and greenpoint.

As for the CMH question i don't think the spectrum is to blame. but like i said earlier it could be a problem with the ballasts or the bulbs themselves.
Still 2x new bulbs and good ballasts being faulty, maybe one but not two it's unlikely but not completely impossible. I will look at the breeders you mentioned, I can only buy from breeders that will send to Austraalia.
 

chris692

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Why not pop in the HPS bulbs and finish them out? (If there is an active flower cycle) It may take a little longer, but why waste an entire veg cycle? at the least you will get some good edibles, or hash.
True at least it will tell me if it's the bulbs or the genetics that the problem. I was just planning on keeping the clones in veg over the summer months I'm in Australia and it's too hot in the garage in the summer months. But if I do this I won't be able to buy the seeds from ILGM because I don't want to be growing when I order the seeds just in case they get stopped and I have visitors.
 

pulpoinspace

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Still 2x new bulbs and good ballasts being faulty, maybe one but not two it's unlikely but not completely impossible. I will look at the breeders you mentioned, I can only buy from breeders that will send to Austraalia.
bodhi is on sensible and green point seeds ships worldwide from their own website. check out the purple cake.

killawatt power meter is a really handy thing to have I got mine for this very purpose were discussing and have ended up using it for tons of things around the house

 

HydroKid239

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True at least it will tell me if it's the bulbs or the genetics that the problem. I was just planning on keeping the clones in veg over the summer months I'm in Australia and it's too hot in the garage in the summer months. But if I do this I won't be able to buy the seeds from ILGM because I don't want to be growing when I order the seeds just in case they get stopped and I have visitors.
You could not have had that much of a lack in luck to grow the same thing 5 times.
Try the different approach.
Crazy by definition is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results... Not that I'm callin u crazy.. but you should definitely swap out bulbs when you flip to flower. I have not seen one post here saying "Seed to harvest under CMH/MH only, with pics

Example:

 

chris692

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bodhi is on sensible and green point seeds ships worldwide from their own website. check out the purple cake.

killawatt power meter is a really handy thing to have I got mine for this very purpose were discussing and have ended up using it for tons of things around the house

Thanks will do. So you know about Sensible seeds. I had their OG kush but it did exactly the same thing.
 

chris692

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You could not have had that much of a lack in luck to grow the same thing 5 times.
Try the different approach.
Crazy by definition is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results... Not that I'm callin u crazy.. but you should definitely swap out bulbs when you flip to flower. I have not seen one post here saying "Seed to harvest under CMH/MH only, with pics

Example:

I will be doing this next run. As you can imagine it's dam right depressing when after 3+ months the plants do this.
 
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