stick a fork in em..their done.

medicineman said:
Corporations could not exist without Greed. The stock market could not exist without greed. Greed is running the world at present, and there seems to be no cure.
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The hot rod in your garage wouldn't exist without greed. Your expensive vacations wouldn't exist without greed. Your rental properties woudn't exist without greed.

What's your lame point?

Vi
 
I think Med's point is (drumroll please) That there is too much fucking greed in this world. "How can I get mine, who can I step on to get there, who's back can I knife to get ahead" It must be really exhausting to have to live that way. Never having time to relax or smell the fowers, people are too busy plowing the flowers under to make a buck.

I feel sorry for people like that. I guess they don't realize that when they run out of people to step on, they become a step themselves.
 
ViRedd said:
The hot rod in your garage wouldn't exist without greed. Your expensive vacations wouldn't exist without greed. Your rental properties woudn't exist without greed.

What's your lame point?

Vi
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wrongo nutjob, they are the result of hard labor and frugal saving, not bilking other Americans out of their hard earned monies. Like CEOs that get paid hundreds of times what well paid workers get, criminal, or scheming real estate salesmen that keep raising the price of homes to make more money untill the falsly inflated prices come trumbling down and cause this disaster we're in. Yes VI, you have contributed to this financial disaster with your frickin greed!
 
medicineman said:
wrongo nutjob, they are the result of hard labor and frugal saving, not bilking other Americans out of their hard earned monies. Like CEOs that get paid hundreds of times what well paid workers get, criminal, or scheming real estate salesmen that keep raising the price of homes to make more money untill the falsly inflated prices come trumbling down and cause this disaster we're in. Yes VI, you have contributed to this financial disaster with you

What's your problem ? Calling people names because they have the audacity not to believe as you do?
To refute your points.
1) what homeowner when selling their house is going to lower the price given by the appraiser?
2)Who loosened the lending regulation and requiring the banks to lower their repayment requirement?3) Who ultimately has the power over CEO's salary and bonuses? A hint, it's not the gov't. How many stockholders return the dividend check and demand that the products/servives provide by the co be reduced?
I't the PEOPLE who ultimately have the power. Remember WE are the Goverment, or are supposed to be.
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Anotheroldephart said:
medicineman said:
wrongo nutjob, they are the result of hard labor and frugal saving, not bilking other Americans out of their hard earned monies. Like CEOs that get paid hundreds of times what well paid workers get, criminal, or scheming real estate salesmen that keep raising the price of homes to make more money untill the falsly inflated prices come trumbling down and cause this disaster we're in. Yes VI, you have contributed to this financial disaster with you

What's your problem ? Calling people names because they have the audacity not to believe as you do?
To refute your points.
1) what homeowner when selling their house is going to lower the price given by the appraiser?
2)Who loosened the lending regulation and requiring the banks to lower their repayment requirement?3) Who ultimately has the power over CEO's salary and bonuses? A hint, it's not the gov't. How many stockholders return the dividend check and demand that the products/servives provide by the co be reduced?
I't the PEOPLE who ultimately have the power. Remember WE are the Goverment, or are supposed to be.
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You are so full of shit. The people were taken out of the loop long ago. We are given a choice between two and neither one will do the peoples bidding. Congressmen sell out on their first day in congress when the lobbiests come to pay off their campaign debts. Obama is already flaking on his promises. It's not the people, it's the corporations and the elites that are holding us captive to their whims. If Obama starts with secretive shit, get ready for some real action by the people, for that is when they'll know they've been sold out, and there is nothing like being scorned to piss one off.
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medicineman said:
Anotheroldephart said:
You are so full of shit. The people were taken out of the loop long ago. We are given a choice between two and neither one will do the peoples bidding. Congressmen sell out on their first day in congress when the lobbiests come to pay off their campaign debts. Obama is already flaking on his promises. It's not the people, it's the corporations and the elites that are holding us captive to their whims. If Obama starts with secretive shit, get ready for some real action by the people, for that is when they'll know they've been sold out, and there is nothing like being scorned to piss one off.
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how is obama already flaking on his promises?
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medicineman said:
Anotheroldephart said:
You are so full of shit. The people were taken out of the loop long ago. We are given a choice between two and neither one will do the peoples bidding. Congressmen sell out on their first day in congress when the lobbiests come to pay off their campaign debts. Obama is already flaking on his promises. It's not the people, it's the corporations and the elites that are holding us captive to their whims. If Obama starts with secretive shit, get ready for some real action by the people, for that is when they'll know they've been sold out, and there is nothing like being scorned to piss one off.
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Me full of shit ? We the people DO have the power but don't use it..The same old whine" somebody DO something!!The apathy of the whiners lie you is pathetic. In this state we just decriminalized the possession of under an ounce. Did the gov't just do it? No the PEOPLE did it we raised our collective voices and got it changed. If you don't like something get off your ass, join with others who agree with you and DO SOMETHING about it. As for Obama..his changes so far include staffing his cabinet with Clinton cronies. How's that for change. I do believe some of the programs are needed to much of it smacks of big brotherism. Time will tell.
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medicineman said:
tipsgnob said:
By some of his appointments. Like appopinting a free market trade czar. One that helped push NAFTA through. Like I said, we must wait and see, but I'm having a few doubts lately. If he doesn't repeal the Patriot act and close Guantanamo, we'll know.
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I had no problem with the original NAFTA, if you had a factory in the US and you opened another one in canada or mexico you got some breaks. but, if you closed your US factory you were penalized, those rules got changed under Bush...
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Originally Posted by ViRedd
The hot rod in your garage wouldn't exist without greed. Your expensive vacations wouldn't exist without greed. Your rental properties wouldn't exist without greed.

What's your lame point?

Vi

wrongo nutjob, they are the result of hard labor and frugal saving

Med, you are such an ignorant fuck! Not only that, you don't live by the rules you would like to set for others. You are typical of a jealous, envious, thieving, totalitarian communist.

Do you honestly think that other people's wealth is created by something other than hard labor and frugal saving? What the fuck makes your hard work and savings so special ... and those of other's not special and something to be plundered?

Honestly, if you would live by the Marxist "ideals" you espouse here in this forum, you would NOT spend your money on useless, frivolous items like hot rods, expensive vacations and rental properties. Nope, you'd be giving all of your EXCESS wealth to the poor ... or just sending a check for said amount into the Treasury Department every April 15.

Now go blow it out yer azz ...

Vi

 
ViRedd said:
Originally Posted by ViRedd
The hot rod in your garage wouldn't exist without greed. Your expensive vacations wouldn't exist without greed. Your rental properties wouldn't exist without greed.

What's your lame point?

Vi

wrongo nutjob, they are the result of hard labor and frugal saving

Med, you are such an ignorant fuck! Not only that, you don't live by the rules you would like to set for others. You are typical of a jealous, envious, thieving, totalitarian communist.

Do you honestly think that other people's wealth is created by something other than hard labor and frugal saving? What the fuck makes your hard work and savings so special ... and those of other's not special and something to be plundered?

Honestly, if you would live by the Marxist "ideals" you espouse here in this forum, you would NOT spend your money on useless, frivolous items like hot rods, expensive vacations and rental properties. Nope, you'd be giving all of your EXCESS wealth to the poor ... or just sending a check for said amount into the Treasury Department every April 15.

Now go blow it out yer azz ...

Vi
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Hey Vi..check out book review. He's over there calling me a Nazi when I disagree with him.. I can just see it..him on the floor kicking his feet!!. Yeah his I've got mine..you give your away would be humorous if there weren't so many that think the same way.*sigh*
 
Anotheroldephart said:
Hey Vi..check out book review. He's over there calling me a Nazi when I disagree with him.. I can just see it..him on the floor kicking his feet!!. Yeah his I've got mine..you give your away would be humorous if there weren't so many that think the same way.*sigh*
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I know, man ... I've been bantering back and forth with Med for around three years now. I used to think he posted his Marxist bullshit just for effect ... but I've come to believe that he really believes all that crap he posts. Its the same thing over and over with Med ... "the rich are thieving bastards, real estate agents "con" their clients into raising prices, corporations are all evil, capitalism is bringing down the country, increased taxes are good, decreasing taxes is stealing from the poor ... and the only solutions to anything is more government control."

The guy is not only really sick, he's totally demented ... and really boring.

Vi
 
are you kidding..it is funny as hell..i worked hard and saved to get what i got...the evil greedy on the other hand...stole it all from me..and my hard work....its like there is no possible way the evil greedy..could have worked their ass's off their whole lifes and saved and worked..and saved and worked..hell no..he needs all his shit taken from him the evil greedy bastard...you got to love the liberal double standard..steal the other guys shit..not mine....lol...bongsmilie
 
Yep I've noticed he'll rant and rave and make baseless accusations, but when he's asked to clarify a statement, or answer a question he start hollering and name calling.Go figure. I enjoy debating issues. I don't expect to always being agreed with as alas, that would be booorrriiing! But the poisonous tripe dribbling from his oral edifice to say the least is appalling.
But I draw the line at being called a Nazi.. Honestly when he posted the tirade I was WISHIN' he was saying it in person..well I'm sure you can imagine the outcome*eg* However, as it is with other cowards, he wouldn't have the nuts to say any of that to my, or anyone's face.
He, as with I think most people want to blame "someone else" for all the troubles. As I pointed out to him, that WE the people are the true power..we just don't use it collectively enough. I know it' not easy fighting the PTB, but remember that ram and the dam!!
 
Geeze, a quadrangle of mental midgets has just attacked. You nutjobs are so full of shit it's pathetic. I don't need to defend my lifestyle to you or anyone. I've earned what I have and have no regrets. I didn't have to steal (Vi) or shit on people to get what I have, I earned it the old fashioned way, Hard work. It's funny how I get under your collective skins. A little guilt I'd guess, but again, I believe you are all so evil, that guilt is beyond you
 
medicineman said:
Geeze, a quadrangle of mental midgets has just attacked. You nutjobs are so full of shit it's pathetic. I don't need to defend my lifestyle to you or anyone. I've earned what I have and have no regrets. I didn't have to steal (Vi) or shit on people to get what I have, I earned it the old fashioned way, Hard work. It's funny how I get under your collective skins. A little guilt I'd guess, but again, I believe you are all so evil, that guilt is beyond you
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How soon you forget that you and I have met in person, Med. After talking with you in person, and bantering about with you here on this forum for the past three years or so, I can tell you with no reservations that you wouldn't last in my line of work for more than a few days. You'd be punching out the first asshole who treated you shabbly or rejected your sorry ass. Hey, try eating rejection for a living, while at the same time, trying to make people wealthy ... not to mention dealing with people like you who think all sales people are crooks. You wouldn't know a good salesperson if you saw one ... your preconceptions would block your view.

And by the way, guyz ... not all auto salesmen are crooks either. Yes, some exist, but some of the best salespeople I've ever met were in the car business.

Vi
 
I suppose if there weren't so many crooked sales people more of them could be trusted. Screw me over once, shame on you, screw me over repeatedly shame on me. Trust no one, you'll be a lot happier.

Vi, you try to make others wealthy? You do really worship the dollar bill don't you? I pity you, it must be sadly tiring to think of how can you get more, more, more, more, more all day every day.
 
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