Sterilization

drcartman

Active Member
Can you sterilize your shroom jars in boiling water or does it have to be a pressure cooker. I don't have the money for a pressuer cooker
 

ndangerspecimen101

Well-Known Member
Pressure cookers are used mainly for exotic mushrooms strains. Most Cubensis strains can be placed in a big pot suspended above the water allowing the jars to be steam cleaned. This is a very viable option if a pressure cooker is not around! ;)
 

canndo

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Um, at the risk of contradicting my friend ndanger, 212 temps will not kill endospores from some very common contaminants. You could boil some of these all day and kill maybe 50 percent of them. And it only takes ONE to spoil your entire endeavor (that depends of course on how many jars you use and how you innoculated etc.)

If you are lucky, you can work with boiling water only and you can get decent results but there are so many ways to destroy your work that it just doesn't make sense to try to avoid a certain and proven method of yielding absolutely sterile substrates and instruments. I have seen them for as little as 15 dollars - they are like 6 quarts or something but you can do a few pints or half pints in them and they will be just fine. If you look at second hand places or salvation army or garage sales you can usually find what you need for very little money. Just make sure the gasket is sound and the weight is included.
 

ANC

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Can you sterilize your shroom jars in boiling water or does it have to be a pressure cooker. I don't have the money for a pressuer cooker
Sounds like you are not in a position in life at which you should be doing this.
 

ndangerspecimen101

Well-Known Member
Um, at the risk of contradicting my friend ndanger, 212 temps will not kill endospores from some very common contaminants. You could boil some of these all day and kill maybe 50 percent of them. And it only takes ONE to spoil your entire endeavor (that depends of course on how many jars you use and how you innoculated etc.)

If you are lucky, you can work with boiling water only and you can get decent results but there are so many ways to destroy your work that it just doesn't make sense to try to avoid a certain and proven method of yielding absolutely sterile substrates and instruments. I have seen them for as little as 15 dollars - they are like 6 quarts or something but you can do a few pints or half pints in them and they will be just fine. If you look at second hand places or salvation army or garage sales you can usually find what you need for very little money. Just make sure the gasket is sound and the weight is included.
True.

But a friend of a friend conducted such trials in a big pot allowing steam sterilization with success. Although, its best to carry out plans by using a pressure cooker by eliminating bacteria effectively. I deeply respect your post! ;)
 

weasels911

Well-Known Member
If you are just following the PF Tek, you can get away with boiling water in a big pot. I used sterilize like that with pretty good results. If you want to go further with the hobby, a pressure cooker IS necessary. Don't waste your time trying to do grains without one.
 

fishbud

Member
correct on thrift store pressure cooker got mine goodwill $10.00 he's right look at gasket on top lid make sure it's good and also has the weight that goes on top of the lid. Also if gasket is not good most sell repacment gaskets.
 

sonar

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No I always made sure they were sitting in about 1/2" of water for better conduction. The rack is to keep them off the bottom of the pot so the bottom of the jars don't crack.
 
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