Stealth Hydro Bubbleponics 1st Grow

Jmade

Active Member
Thanks Lt Shiny Sides, I was freaking out, and did earlier and trimmed them thinking they were infected. but then realized it was just the nutes adding to the decolorization. I've changed the res just about every week, and used distilled water. haven't had very many problems.
 

Roseman

Elite Rolling Society
Changed the reservoir, the roots have taken more of a darker color to them than the bright white. I'm not sure if this early signs of Root disease or ?

I also put in a fan at the bottom of the cab on top of the tank, its a Zippi from Vornado, with nylon fan blades. I set it on low and you could see the leaves on top shaking.

These ladies are drinking water too! almost 2 and 1/2 gallons since the last res change.

Thanks for checking it out!

Jmade,

Mature roots darken near the tops naturally. Root Rot stinks,and they darken at the ends. Check for an ODOR, and see if they stink.

Everyone replinishes the water that they drink DAILY, normally a half gallon to a gallon daily, after 4 to 6 weeks with a fractional part of nutes added..
 

Roseman

Elite Rolling Society
Went to Lowes and Picked up this awesome Insulation, Hung it up in the room, got some nice reflective tape, I also used some Neodymium Magnets to mount the air tubes on the side of the tub, then hooked up the original Bubble set up that came with the kit to add some extra bubbles. At this point I have 2 plants [on the left side] that are looking great, but the 2 plants on the right side look a few weeks behind. I have used coated wire mounted to the walls to help stabilize and support the plant in hopes that they will be able to develop and grow. I also ordered 2 65 Watt CFLs for flowering, I'll switch a couple out on top then move the 2 for some side lights.

Thanks for checking it out.
Everytime you take a pic of the roots, you expose them to LIGHT...........a NO NO. Do not let the LIGHT shine on the roots.
 

Jmade

Active Member
The 2 Flowering bulbs from Stealth Hydro yesterday! I put them in and they kick ass! 85-Watt super bright, it looks like the reflective siding I put up in just 2 days have significantly helped the right 2 plants! things are looking pretty good!

its seems that the 2 on the left might be ready before the 2 on the right.

I'll need a lighted scope to know for sure. but am awaiting to see what will happen with the better coverage of lights!
 

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Black SS

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Great looking plants for your first grow... I'm just starting to get my supplies together to start my first grow, still have to decide on which type of of setup i'm going to have for veg, drip or bubble but the way your system is turning out i think you made my mind up for me. thanks again for sharing ~ Black SS
 

auto1986

Active Member
Looks good man, Those lights on the side should help out with the dark spots in the plants, help the buds grow larger. subscribing can't wait to see the end product they look nice and tasty, you and your dad are gonna have some good smoke :)
 

Jmade

Active Member
This past saturday put us @ 9 weeks Flowering, Nirvana's Site (where i got the seeds from) said Flowering would take 12 weeks...

I'm not sure quite what to do, continue the flowering process until 12 weeks? I also found sites stating that the flowering period on this strain is around the 8 to 9 weeks. keep adding nutes, or just plain water? I also didn't know If I should attempt to Reveg these ladies? or if It might be too much work with the set up.

thanks for taking a look

Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
 

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Lt Shiny Sides

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Lookin' good. they're not ready to harvest yet, though. you need to get some kind of magnifying glass, 30x works well, to look at the resin glands. when they start to turn milky you should just give plain water for a week or two.
 

Roseman

Elite Rolling Society
This past saturday put us @ 9 weeks Flowering, Nirvana's Site (where i got the seeds from) said Flowering would take 12 weeks...

12 weeks in SOIL, or HYDRO? Most Indica only Flowers in Hydro for 8 or 9 weeks.

I'm not sure quite what to do, continue the flowering process until 12 weeks? I also found sites stating that the flowering period on this strain is around the 8 to 9 weeks. keep adding nutes, or just plain water? I also didn't know If I should attempt to Reveg these ladies? or if It might be too much work with the set up.

thanks for taking a look

Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
12 weeks in SOIL, or HYDRO? Most Indica only Flowers in Hydro for 8 or 9 weeks.
 

Roseman

Elite Rolling Society
Trichome 101
Harvesting is, without a doubt, the most exciting part of the wonderful journey that is cannabis cultivation. After months of watching, waiting and tending to your plants’ every need, the time is approaching when you must cut them down to harvest their resin-coated buds and all of the leftover trim that can be used to make fresh potent hash.

You know that you need to harvest your plants in the coming weeks, but when exactly is the best time to do it? Every strain of marijuana has its own life cycle, so it’s not as simple as a specific number of weeks after flowering has begun. It’s even more complicated since you can choose when to harvest your crop for bud that provides either a head high or a body stone. Luckily, most if not all strains of commercially grown cannabis provide visual clues on when to harvest, and what type of high you are likely to achieve.

In this article, we’re going to explore the final phase of your plants’ growth cycle: the flowering or budding phase. Specifically, we want to look at the last two weeks of the flowering phase in what is known as the “window of peak maturity”. The window of peak maturity is when trichome development and the level of THC production in your plants have reached their maximum point, which is when you would harvest your plants. By being patient and paying close attention to certain indicators, you can reap fantastic buds that provide you with precisely the type of high that suits you best.

THC and Trichomes
Almost everyone who enjoys marijuana knows that, for whatever reason, THC is the psychoactive component in the bud they ingest.

As a cannabis cultivator, it helps to know just a little bit more than what THC is—such as how it develops over time and how chemical changes in trichomes contribute to different psychoactive effects.

The primary goal of any plant is to create and nurture seeds to be viable for future growth. Trichomes help prevent seed damage from insects, animals, light degradation and fungal disease. In the case of cannabis, trichomes also contain THC, the chemical compound that provides a psychedelic high to humans. THC stands for Tetrahydrocannabinol (C21H30O2). Near the end of the flowering cycle, THC begins to break down and turns into another chemical compound called Cannabinol, or CBN (C21H26O2), in a process known as oxidization. Higher levels of CBN tend to provide a more narcotic or “stoned” feeling, while THC delivers a more euphoric, upbeat “high”. Knowing this, you can examine the trichomes and the pistils of the plant, then choose when you harvest to get the psychoactive effects you desire.

Cannabis plants produce THC and CBN on their stems, leaves, and vegetation surrounding the buds and are developed in trichomes, which emerge on the surface of most of the plant’s parts. On the stems and the early fan leaves, the trichomes are small and hug the surface. As the flowering phase continues, the glands develop on the more mature parts of the plant, including the smaller leaves and the first calyxes (which exist to develop and nurture seeds if male pollen fertilizes the female plant). The trichomes that develop on calyxes no longer hug the plant’s surface, but are on stalks like mushrooms with bulbous caps. During this time, more and more trichome-covered calyxes develop and create densely packed clusters, called ‘bud’. As your plants enter the final stages of their life cycle, the calyxes begin to swell and ripen, while more and more resin glands develop on the surface.

Another indication of plant maturity is the color of the pistils, the little hairs that grow from inside the calyxes. Their purpose is to collect male pollen to fertilize the ovum inside the calyx, creating a seed. When no male pollen exists calyxes grow dense without any seeds, resulting in sinsemilla cannabis. Near the end of the flowering phase, pistils change color, entering the window of peak maturity. The ratio of white pistils to red pistils determines the type of effects your plants are likely to produce: a high or stone. In the final few weeks of the flowering phase, the pistils change from bright white to a rusty orange or brown, signifying the end of the plant’s life cycle.

Examining Trichomes

As the amount of trichomes covering your plant increases, you should take a closer look at them, maintaining a light touch to avoid crushing the resin glands. Your best bet is to purchase an inexpensive 25x microscope (available at most electronics stores), and most pocket microscopes have a small light to help you get an illuminated peek at your trichome development.

When you cut small buds from your plant to test them, you want to concentrate on the stalked glandular trichomes. The coloration of the gland heads can vary with different strains and maturity, but most start with clear or slightly amber heads that gradually become cloudy or opaque when THC levels have peaked and are beginning to degrade. Regardless of the initial color of the trichomes, with careful observation you should be able to see a change in coloration as maturity levels off. Some cultivators wait for about half of the trichomes to go opaque before harvesting to ensure maximum THC levels in the finished product. However, you will also want to try samples at various stages to see what is best for you. While you may be increasing the total THC level in the cannabis by allowing half of the glands to go opaque, there will also be a larger percentage of CBN, which is why some people choose to harvest earlier while most of the trichomes are still clear.

Now you understand how trichomes develop on your plants and how to examine them as they turn from clear to opaque, indicating THC breakdown.

Early and Late Harvesting

Every strain has its own unique window of peak maturity, typically one to two weeks long. However, there is a difference between har vesting early or late within that window, depending on whether you want a head high or a body high.

As cannabis matures the chemistry of the plant changes, as does the type of effects. While these differences in chemical nature still require a lot of research to fully understand, you can utilize them to produce different types of highs for different needs.

By harvesting earlier in the window your buds tend to produce more of a cerebral head high, an effect much more pronounced in Sativas than Indicas. A head high is more psychedelic in nature, providing you with a pleasant mental “up” state, often ideally suited for social situations when you still need to have your wits and plenty of energy.

If you choose to harvest later in the window, your buds produce more of a body high, which is conversely more pronounced in Indicas than in Sativas. A body high is similar to a narcotic “down” effect, usually associated with being “stoned”. A down type of high is often desired in the late evening to calm nerves and drift into sleep. A late-harvest yield is often sought by medicinal cannabis users to ease pain and increase appetite. If you choose to harvest somewhere in the middle of the peak window of maturity, you don’t necessarily get the best of both worlds, but more of a happy medium. If you aren’t sure what type of high you like or want, aim for the middle and you likely won’t be disappointed.

As you continue to examine your plants, you will be tempted, even compelled, to start pulling buds off of your plants to test them out. There is a right way and a wrong way to try out your buds before they are ready, so let’s take a look at your options.

Testing Your Buds

Most new growers start picking at their crop only a few weeks after budding starts. Usually this is because inexperienced growers get too excited and they don’t know that these small, immature buds still have a way to go before they hit peak maturity and reach the highest trichome development. But there is definitely nothing wrong with being excited about your ladies! Even veteran growers still get giddy seeing their plants start to sag under the weight of so much resin.

I don’t recommend taking any buds from your plants until they are approaching their window of harvest, and you should only take a small bud every day or two. You can test your first bud when approximately 10% of the pistils have turned reddishbrown; take it from the middle area of the plant. Once you’ve cut your self a small bud to try out, you need to dry it, but drying and curing traditionally takes longer than the entire window of peak maturity, so you have to quick dry it. Quick drying is a sub-optimal way to turn a lush, wet bud into something you can smoke, but it’s the best way to quickly test your bud every other day as it matures.

There are lots of different ways to quick dry your bud, but one of the best ways is to use your lighting ballasts in the grow room. First, cut up your fresh bud and spread it out evenly in an envelope. Close the envelope and place it on top of your ballast, then leave it there for two to three hours while the light is on. After the buds are dried out, put them in an airtight container and allow the last of the moisture to move from the stem into the bud. Considering this is a quick dry method, the taste is usually good and the potency is acceptable. Also, the use of a vaporizer will allow you to concentrate on your high rather than being distracted by the odd taste of quick-dried weed smoke.

By now you know what trichomes are and how the chemicals in them evolve from producing a head high to a body high over a couple of weeks. You also know that the pistils on your buds change color from white to reddish-brown as the window of harvest opens and closes, as well as what type of high to expect depending on the percentage of new and mature pistils. Throughout the window of harvest, you took small buds from the middle of the plant, quick dried them, then tested them out to determine the type of high you want your crop to give you. Now, you can harvest your plants with confidence in knowing that they will be loaded with resin that produces just the right kind of high you were looking for. Enjoy your harvest!
 

Roseman

Elite Rolling Society
Save your money over an expensive microscope and and get a eye loop they use for looking at 35mm slides for cheap


or get a jeweler's loop or at Radio Shack for $13 :
TRICHOME HARVEST CHART




of couse someone that likes to argue, will argue with this post.

YOU CAN GO BY A CALENDER, AND IT WILL BE BETWEEN 8 AND 9 WEEKS FOR MOST INDICA.
You can buy a $13 lighted battery operated 10X microscope at Radio Shack to examine the trichs.
You can wait until all the hairs are reddish or browish or dark beer colored.

again, all the above are rules of thumb and many will argue this, but until you've done a few grows and learn any better, this is good advise.
 

purpdaddy

Well-Known Member
Save your money over an expensive microscope and and get a eye loop they use for looking at 35mm slides for cheap


or get a jeweler's loop or at Radio Shack for $13 :
TRICHOME HARVEST CHART




of couse someone that likes to argue, will argue with this post.

YOU CAN GO BY A CALENDER, AND IT WILL BE BETWEEN 8 AND 9 WEEKS FOR MOST INDICA.
You can buy a $13 lighted battery operated 10X microscope at Radio Shack to examine the trichs.
You can wait until all the hairs are reddish or browish or dark beer colored.

again, all the above are rules of thumb and many will argue this, but until you've done a few grows and learn any better, this is good advise.
great info man,This is the truth and there is no arguing this fact.It is what it is,!
 

Jmade

Active Member
You guys are Amazing!

I cannot thank you for all your help through this (my first) grow. all your information as been Rock solid and worked great for me!

I'll post some more pics here soon...
 

chadwickca

Active Member
Awesome grow, I've subscribed! and roseman, you inspired me to go with stealth hydro about 4-5 months ago. I appreciate all the help and care you have for all our grows. I cannot say enough about all the stupid mistakes I've avoided y researching and reading your posts!!

so, is there a percentage of hairs that turn brown before you flush?

also, do you look on the larger buds for the indication or the smaller ones?

I'm on my first grow, 6 weeks into flowering, with bubbleponics, and maybe 5% of the hairs on the smaller buds are brown. should I flush soon?
 

Roseman

Elite Rolling Society
Awesome grow, I've subscribed! and roseman, you inspired me to go with stealth hydro about 4-5 months ago. I appreciate all the help and care you have for all our grows. I cannot say enough about all the stupid mistakes I've avoided y researching and reading your posts!!


Read the Mistakes I made:
Mistakes I made

so, is there a percentage of hairs that turn brown before you flush?

I no longer FLUSH before Harvesting. But many growers harvest when half to 3/4 of the hairs are NOT white. And if you have NO microscope to look at the Trchiomes, then you can go by the hair color to determine when to harvest. I rarely have any white hairs at my harvest.
Here is my Harvesting Guide: HARVESTING CURING

also, do you look on the larger buds for the indication or the smaller ones?

I go by the larger TOP buds compared to the smaller buds and harvest when the large buds are ready.

I'm on my first grow, 6 weeks into flowering, with bubbleponics, and maybe 5% of the hairs on the smaller buds are brown. should I flush soon?

INDICA (if not an auto flowering strain) always is ready to harvest at 8 to 9 weeks of 12/12, or flowering.
Sativa takes 10 to 16 weeks, depending on the strain.

Look at my PICs here:

My PICS
 

chadwickca

Active Member
Roseman, as always, I am impressed with your yeilds and plants.

I am, however, intrigued by the fact that you don't flush. do you notice any significant increase in yeild or decrease in smokability?

I have contemplated not flushing, but haven't found any posts regarding the outcome.
 

Jmade

Active Member
There are looking incredible!

I am thinking I'll probably harvest on Sunday

the 2 plants on the right side might not be as ready, or some of the lower buds

Can I just take the top buds? Do i need to do anything differently with the nutes or lights?

It seems as if the other ones might just be a few days to a week behind. but I am not sure if you could just take them as they are ready or all at once?
 

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Roseman

Elite Rolling Society
Roseman, as always, I am impressed with your yeilds and plants.

I am, however, intrigued by the fact that you don't flush. do you notice any significant increase in yeild or decrease in smokability?

I have contemplated not flushing, but haven't found any posts regarding the outcome.
Every book I own (14 books)says to flush before harvesting. I did it first 4 times, and I did not do it the last 3 times and I could tell no difference in the taste.
What I did notice is an extra week of GROWING the Buds by still feeding them.

I could be all wrong, since I go against all rules and tradition.
 

Roseman

Elite Rolling Society
There are looking incredible!

I am thinking I'll probably harvest on Sunday

the 2 plants on the right side might not be as ready, or some of the lower buds

Can I just take the top buds? YES Do i need to do anything differently with the nutes or lights?

It seems as if the other ones might just be a few days to a week behind. but I am not sure if you could just take them as they are ready or all at once?
You can harvest jsut the upper third of the plant, or 2/3s, and wait a week or two for the remaining plant. It is much more hassle and trouble and work, but you can do it.
 

LordCody

Active Member
nice man i like that setup...i dont have a pic of my grow room yet but i got a pic of what in my closet,.. a mini bubbleponics system i just want to grow in my room for like a for fun plant
hahha i have a cover for it i just wanted to show the whole thing lol tell me what u think! i know i need more airstoes...a bunch more
 
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