Stealth Cabinets

Plant Photonics said:

Hi Budbaby
Nice grow journal! I am Richard, the guy who made your lights for you. I have been keeping an eye on your journal to see how you did, really good result, especially for your first go!
Now you can get your revenge on all the people on other forums who said you were wasting your time, you had been ripped off etc.!
Do you realise that at 20 ounces you would have exactly 2 grams/watt which is as far as I know a record for a led light.

I agree with you about the taste and strength, I found both to be better than plants grown under MH/HPS.

I now (finally) have a website, its got lots of info on leds, plants and a section on how to spot rip-offs! Dont know if I can post the adress on here as it is a commercial site (selling my lights) as well.

Moderator/Administrator - if you read this can you let me know if I can post my webadress?

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Hi Richard, I'am STELTHY, I have been helping Budbaby on his journey, the LED's have been great (That you made) Can I ask... Could you make a KESSIL H150 Extreme Red 'Replica' or an upgraded version for less than £200.00 postage inc ?? I am after the high red end of the spectrum producing the highest sharpest RED Nm reading..

So I should have a full spectrum for my plants.. Kessil are very expensive for what they are.. and it'd be cool to see what you can do (if possible) the one thing I do need is the LED panel to be less than 4" cubed as I have not a lot of space left. I heard you can have 60 degree LED Chips.. and the higher watt the LED chip the better ie/3W or 5W etc..

Please PM me, and include a LINK in the PM of your site I'd love to check out what you've done and the difference your lights make, +REP! for sorting out Budbaby with his lights he/I are very pleased with them..

Also do you do an LED with UV-B at all ?? Many thanks - STELTHY

have you heard of osram dragon plus leds? seen some crazy good results from them and want to get a panel with them but theres only 1 manufacturer so far. would you be able to build a custom one ?

Hi Richard sorry ive havent been on in a few days but my back has gone again so im not up to much other than smoking lol

The bud seems to taste better everyday and thats just the stuff i have in my tin, the cheese is def there and although you taste a little blueberry i think a good 4+ weeks of curing will help alot. The buzz is also very nice, i think i could have left them another week but my other veggin ladies were getting to big so they had to come down. Still though a very nice buzz to head and body but leaning more towards a head buzz.

The ladies currently in flower have had 1 week so far and ill get some pics taken with the breadknifes crappy camera later so you can have a look. My freak haze plant has a thicker stem now than my best finished plant that i cropped Light are due on at 3.30 so ill get some lights off pics done in about an hour or so and get them posted up for you.

A few pics as promised, i didnt manage to catch lights out and you will have to excuse the quality of the group shot its just to give you an idea. As you can see the freak supercropped haze plant is touching the light now so im about to tie her back to try and keep an even canopy. Im hoping if i tie the two haze at the back right down the 2 indicas at the front will catch them up when they start to stretch like mad and i will get an even canopy.

As you can see the damages plant front left is starting to pick up

Plant Photonics said:

Hi Samld1984

The leds I am using are actually alot better/brighter than the Osrams.
My red - 130lm @700mA
Osram red - 115lm @ 1000ma (81lm @700ma)

So about 60% brighter! If there was a better led I would be using it

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hi m8, thanks for the reply

interesting, are you sure you looked at the right osrams? I know there older chips are nowhere near as good ( I believe ones used in the haight solid lights are from chips designed for car head lamps).

from what I've read the new osram golden dragon plus leds have been designed for horticulture and are much better/more efficient. I seem to remember reading 110lm at 350mA but can't seem to find that page now.

the actual chip I've been looking at is this http://uk.mouser.com/ProductDetail/OSRAM-Opto-Semiconductors/LH-W5AM-1T3T-1-L-Z/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMsK5VZR9vO1qGUagR5e4J3H
and they rate the luminous flux/radiant flux at 320mW

I'm really clueless when it comes to this stuff to be honest so I'm obviously not questioning your expertise/knowledge on the subject or your product. Im in the market for a new led light and yours is top of the list, apart from me building my own/having one custom built with these diodes.

I found out about them from a guy on another forum who built his own light with them and hes had very impresive results. I only mention it because he has a theory that sounds very similar to yours about light penetration. which is that intensity can't really penetrate and its all about lens angle and diode spacing (ie wide diode spacing and wide lens angle meaning light hitting plants from lots of side angles) and I know this goes against what most people/manufacturers say.

anyway sorry to derail your thread budbaby, been following your grow whilst researching leds but haven't posted sorry. Awsome grow despite the problems along the way and great to hear you got some quality smoke
with a problem free crop I can't imagine what those lights will do

keep up the good work, peace

hi

the 660 nm red is 720-LHW5AM1T3T1LZ , they have other colours too and I think theres versions with different lens angles (80 and 150) these are 170. but was told these ones are very easy to work with in terms of soldering, the other ones might be brighter/more efficient though.

edit ( not sure if I'm allowed to post links to other forums but if you google 175 watt diy osram led, you'll find the guy who's currently using them, he has alot of info in his thread )

Ive got another 4 seeds in the prop now 2 x RKS and 2 x OG 18

I have a fairly even canopy at the back now i have tied down the freak some more, it doesnt matter what you do to her, she wont slow down growing lol I think i have it sorted now though so ill post some pics tomorrow. My plan is to let the other haze stretch a bit which its starting to do then tie that down to the level of the freak haze.

The blue venom are both looking great now despite the state the damaged one was in Ill let then stretch a fair bit before i tie them down to try and create an even a canopy as possible Im hoping ill have enough room to leave a fairly big gap between the canopy and the lights to see if that concentrates the light on the main colas a bit more.

A few update pics of the girls with the lights off barring one as i ran out of time before they came on As you can see even the damaged plant ive had to trim looks really healthy again now Im having a few ph problems with one of the blue venoms, it keeps dropping so i have lowered EC to about half strength for a bit see if it helps. If it doesnt i think ill flush her out for a day or two see if there is any salt build up.

I have ordered some silicone ph up just for emergancies. Its meant to be better for the plants than the normal stuff.

BudBaby said:

I have ordered some silicone ph up just for emergancies. Its meant to be better for the plants than the normal stuff.

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Do you add Silicone PH Up instead of just tap water ?? I've seen/heard of it... Just not had any experience with it yet, let me know how you find it - STELTHY

I think you just add the silicone which is very high in ph to some water then add to the bucket. I chose this because from what the add said this isnt bad for the plabnts and will make them stronger and help them yeild more

Do you add Silicone PH Up instead of just tap water ?? I've seen/heard of it... Just not had any experience with it yet, let me know how you find it - STELTHY

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I think you just add the silicone which is very high in ph to some water then add to the bucket. I chose this because from what the add said this isnt bad for the plabnts and will make them stronger and help them yeild more

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I haven't heard of silicone ph up but I've used liquid silicone in hydro feed before and I'm guessing its the same thing as it does raise the ph a little. I'd highly recommend it, it strengthens cell walls making plants visibly healthier and stalks thicker/stronger and also helps aid the the plant in uptake of nutrients. I've never had pest problems but I've read stories of people battling mites and stuff for months/years until they finaly starting using this stuff.

I have been having a look at Advanced Nutrients range as it intringues me as to whether or not there hype or actually better products.

I was having a browse and there prices are very expensive but i have found a place that if you buy 10ltrs at a time the prices are much much better. There Connoisser flower feed for instance it £60 per ltr which i wouldnt pay but if you take 10 ltrs its £240 which still expensive makes it more in my price range.

It would mean a big outlay but 5ltrs of canna stuff has done me right for 2 1/2 grows so far and ive still got about 2.5ltrs of each left. I wouldnt use there full range as it just costs to much but i was thinking there Connoisser for flowering with Dr Hornbys Big Bud and and Overdrive plus Cha-Ching and the PK i am already using. I would use B52 throughout and veg with Sensi Grow A + B. I would use Sensi Zym to break down my dead roots and Voodoo Juice as a root stimulant. Im gonna work it all out later and see what the equivelant amount of Canna would cost me and if there isnt much in it i may got for it in the future.

I have worked it out and it would cost me an extra £200 to use AN, for that though i would be getting more than i would with Canna.

I would use:

Sensi Grow A+B for veg
Sensi Zym for dead roots
Voodoo Juice for root stimulace
B52 throughout for better nute uptake
Connoisseur for flowering
Bud Blood
Big Bud
PK 4/10
Overdrive

I think the overdrive is for extra resin production mainly so i could possibly leave that and use my cha-ching, if i can there will only be £60 difference than using Canna I rekon i could still use Canna Start to get them going then switch them on to Sensi Grow.

This wouldnt be for a while yet as the misses is panicing a bit at the thought of me having tons of smoke in the house so i have promised to make the grow i have in the veg cabs now my last until ive smoked a fair bit of what ive got. If i do this she said i can continue doing it for as long as i want as long as its not going 24/7. I think its a fair compromise plus ive got a ton of weed to smoke

I think the plant that nearly died is a hermie, i cant get a decent close up photo but it looks like some pistals and some ball sacks. Im not sure whether to leave it another couple of days to be certain? How long do i have before it would start to mess my other girls up?

I had another check and it was def hermie so i removed it, i just hope i removed it in time, ive had a quick look and they def have balls but i could only see one pollen sack that had fanned open, i know this is plenty to ruin my other 3 ladies but im hoping i have got away with it.

Ive had a good look at the other girls and they all seem fine, no balls in site. How long would it take them to hermie stealthy mate do you know?

BudBaby said:

I have been having a look at Advanced Nutrients range as it intringues me as to whether or not there hype or actually better products.

I was having a browse and there prices are very expensive but i have found a place that if you buy 10ltrs at a time the prices are much much better. There Connoisser flower feed for instance it £60 per ltr which i wouldnt pay but if you take 10 ltrs its £240 which still expensive makes it more in my price range.

It would mean a big outlay but 5ltrs of canna stuff has done me right for 2 1/2 grows so far and ive still got about 2.5ltrs of each left. I wouldnt use there full range as it just costs to much but i was thinking there Connoisser for flowering with Dr Hornbys Big Bud and and Overdrive plus Cha-Ching and the PK i am already using. I would use B52 throughout and veg with Sensi Grow A + B. I would use Sensi Zym to break down my dead roots and Voodoo Juice as a root stimulant. Im gonna work it all out later and see what the equivelant amount of Canna would cost me and if there isnt much in it i may got for it in the future.

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Hi dude, interesting topic .. Advanced nuits do go OTT on advertising, But! alot of their products are pretty good. However in saying that, I/we are using CANNA at the moment, but I am most likely to change to 'Dutch Pro' when all my Canna nuits are used up. With 'Dutch-Pro' you need fewer bottle and the stuff is like steroids fo plants lol my mate uses it in his Cab and the buds are beautiful

It would be interesting to see how much each of these cost when bought in bulk so's to speak I look forward to seeing your results - STELTHY

BudBaby said:

I think the plant that nearly died is a hermie, i cant get a decent close up photo but it looks like some pistals and some ball sacks. Im not sure whether to leave it another couple of days to be certain? How long do i have before it would start to mess my other girls up?

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Its kinda hard to tell without a pic but 'not-long' is a pretty accurate answer - STELTHY

BudBaby said:

I had another check and it was def hermie so i removed it, i just hope i removed it in time, ive had a quick look and they def have balls but i could only see one pollen sack that had fanned open, i know this is plenty to ruin my other 3 ladies but im hoping i have got away with it.

Ive had a good look at the other girls and they all seem fine, no balls in site. How long would it take them to hermie stealthy mate do you know?

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So long as you don't/haven't shook the Hermie to much or brushed it hard against the other girls, you should be ok - STELTHY

What are your thoughts on using 'DUTCH-PRO' as your next line of nuitrients ?? - STELTHY