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Griffta

Griffta

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Nice work BB, did you have 1 freak haze or 2? I can relate to not having a clue, but pulling over 8 oz off one plant is far from shabby! Nice to have a variety of flavours too.
If I knew what I was doing, I think my light could produce scary results. Which is why I think the Kaptain should buy one :)
 
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BudBaby

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stelthy said:
Ah dude, thats a shame.. How many oZ did you get total ?? ... Have you smoked any of it yet... is it any good ?? ...........Man! - You should have kept the fluffy crap buds.. You could've made some well potent Hash! waste not want not, eh? Whats the best smoke so far.. are you/have you cured them yet if so which method did you use? - STELTHY :leaf:
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I did make hash out of them mate and its awsome:):)


I go about 11oz total of decent smokeable bud, the freak haze was to big and i ended up covering most of my canopy trying to fit in into the cabs lol.

Im not that fussed mate as i can see where i went wrong and i know i can get about double what i had today:)
 
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BudBaby

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Kaptain Kron said:
You need to veg into your screen for best results take a pipe and a funnel is that to water or set up irrigation. Irrigation is dirt cheap for less that 50 usd you could have that room plumbed
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How do you mean mate a pipe and a funnel? Also what do you mean by irregation? My only concern about a scrog is moving it from the veg cab to the flower cab. I wish i had gone for 280 watt lights in both cabs now would have made things a bit easier.
 
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BudBaby

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I will do an initial uncured smoke report tomorrow as ive been smoking malana cream and shiva x all day and im just starting on the lemon haze ice hash as we speak so not the best time for me to give a report:)

I really cant wait to grow in soil, its heartbreaking veggin these bitches for 10 weeks just to fook them up when moving them. Ill be starting 2 x grapegod and a dinafem blue hash and a dinafem white widow or barneys pineapple chunk i dont know yet:) Start them in little organic cubes then bung them into 15 ltr airpots and let the pots do the rest:) They will easy to move, easier to tie back as i can remove them then do it etc.
 
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BudBaby

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jubiare said:
Apparentely there is something to to with far red 720 or 740nm? Something to do with the sunrising and sunset.... some people give a hour of far red first thing in the morning and last thing in the eve? There is a guy on icmag that has experienced one week less flowering than HPS, compared to not using far red flowering was taking one extra week compared to HPS
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Dude was this guy using one of the bulbs you gave me a link for? Im def intwerested in this.
 
Kaptain Kron

Kaptain Kron

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BudBaby said:
How do you mean mate a pipe and a funnel? Also what do you mean by irregation? My only concern about a scrog is moving it from the veg cab to the flower cab. I wish i had gone for 280 watt lights in both cabs now would have made things a bit easier.
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Why would u do that do it all in one cab veg to a certain point put into cab. Veg another week or two and flip to fill the rest of the screen also depends the strain you run and its growth rates. Just my 2c. Thought u were talkin bout movin for watering
 
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BudBaby

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Kaptain Kron said:
Why would u do that do it all in one cab veg to a certain point put into cab. Veg another week or two and flip to fill the rest of the screen also depends the strain you run and its growth rates. Just my 2c. Thought u were talkin bout movin for watering
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Ok man that sounds cool. Ill give it some thought.
 
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BudBaby

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I have just ordered some dutch master reverse and dutch master saturator which is meant to stop any male flowers from forming:):) It may be hype but ive seen a couple of reviews online saying it works.

These 2 droopy ladies will hermie for sure, they would already have been stressing from going 12/12 and the root damage to boot will surely hermie both of them. To be on the safe side il use this stuff anyway. Its a foiler spray:)

On another note ive been thinking about ways to improve my yeilds. Im thinking maybe adding a 35 watt panel to the 2 sides and back of my flowering cab, just think of all the extra light fattening the lower buds up. If one of these reptile lights will speed flowering up also ill have a pretty efficient enviroment then its just more pracite growing:):)
 
jubiare

jubiare

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Do you reach 78 - 80 (f) temps in your cab? Apparentely, especially with LEDS.. you can improve yields raising temps? That's when cfl (a couple of 45ish watts, possibly neutral white), that heat infrared and/or that UVB - UVA can come handy.. raising temps and all the other benefits!
And anyway, your idea of side panels is legit, there is people on knna threads (they know what they are talking about) that swears by side lighting wiith Leds!
 
Kaptain Kron

Kaptain Kron

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Heres the thing about that j u need co2 to take advantage of those raised temps. LEDs will still perform best at about 75* the put out more light when they run cool as well good for the electronics. But if you were to boost wih co2 and an environmental controller raise temps to 80 humidity 60% during flower for optimal results. Yield should go through the roof.


Side lighting with LEDs honestly and I hate to sound like an asshole sayin it, but it's for someone who doesn't know how to optimally grow with their LEDs. a scrog is the best method to grow with led and arguably one of the best for hps but that depends how you feel about plant numbers. Growing vert with an led IMO is a waste of time because you could pull twice the amount of quality tops without doin shit but training. Side lighting with a scrog is a waste it does nothin for ya really. The only reason I would suggest side lighting in this case with any led is for added uv lighting. And that is always helpful.

Again it's my opinion but it's drawn from experience and I've done vert, lst, scrog, sog with kessils and my blackstar. Super crop lst or ideally scrog is the only way to go for LEDs.

That being said if you must do a vertical grow wih your plants and why that would be a requirement I don't know but if you must side lighting will help as j said but it's just not using your lights to their fullest potential
 
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BudBaby

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jubiare said:
Do you reach 78 - 80 (f) temps in your cab? Apparentely, especially with LEDS.. you can improve yields raising temps? That's when cfl (a couple of 45ish watts, possibly neutral white), that heat infrared and/or that UVB - UVA can come handy.. raising temps and all the other benefits!
And anyway, your idea of side panels is legit, there is people on knna threads (they know what they are talking about) that swears by side lighting wiith Leds!
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Temps have been on the lowish side this time from about 61-68. Its a little bitter warmer now funnily enough but the winter is about to set in and i think its gonna be cold. Im gonna get a 4kw heater for the room and a thermostat:) I hadnt though about adding a small amount of additional light to raise temps a bit:)

Im hoping when i add another fan to the cabs and an extra intake hole i will be able to control humidity better and not have to have all the windowns open during winter:(

I think 35 watt side panels would be great, its only an extra 105 watts plus one of those red lights if thats what he uses is another 50 watts. Id still be less than 1000 watts for both cabs:)
 
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BudBaby

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Kaptain Kron said:
Heres the thing about that j u need co2 to take advantage of those raised temps. LEDs will still perform best at about 75* the put out more light when they run cool as well good for the electronics. But if you were to boost wih co2 and an environmental controller raise temps to 80 humidity 60% during flower for optimal results. Yield should go through the roof.


Side lighting with LEDs honestly and I hate to sound like an asshole sayin it, but it's for someone who doesn't know how to optimally grow with their LEDs. a scrog is the best method to grow with led and arguably one of the best for hps but that depends how you feel about plant numbers. Growing vert with an led IMO is a waste of time because you could pull twice the amount of quality tops without doin shit but training. Side lighting with a scrog is a waste it does nothin for ya really. The only reason I would suggest side lighting in this case with any led is for added uv lighting. And that is always helpful.

Again it's my opinion but it's drawn from experience and I've done vert, lst, scrog, sog with kessils and my blackstar. Super crop lst or ideally scrog is the only way to go for LEDs.

That being said if you must do a vertical grow wih your plants and why that would be a requirement I don't know but if you must side lighting will help as j said but it's just not using your lights to their fullest potential
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Ok thanks for that man. Im only floating some ideas around at the moment to get some opinion, id only add extra light at the moment to either raise temps when its cold or to help speed flowering up. I want to get the full potential from these lights as i know they will be enough once i have my growing nailed.

When i am in soil for the first grow i will lollypop the plants and top them twice then tie them right back to get extra light in there during flowering. Scrog is also something i wil try in the future. I dont want to bite off more than i can chew:) which is something i tend to do alot lol:)
 
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BudBaby

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I have now tried the SLH :)

The buds are nice and solid and they feel very oily, nice lemon smell from them which will come through alot more with a nice cure. That burnt/woody haze smell is ever present of course.

It tastes very similar to the smell, lemon on the inhale followed by that musky haze taste that i love so much:) I cant wait to give this 6-8 weeks in a jar:)

The buzz hits you very fast with a quick shot to the head, very uplifting but there is definately an indica trace in the background giving it an overall great social buzz.

There is also a pic of the bubble hash:) Once you have held it for a few seconds it goes like toffee:)
 

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jubiare

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It seems like the dude added far reds (740nm) by adding them as LEDs to his panel! mmm
Sorry but I was mistaken, I think is the same day that those heat bulbs were mentioned by an other member:

great grow, great pics

can i ask if you find the flowering period to be normal or a bit longer with these LED units. i found that the addition of far-red (740nm) leds to a unit seems to reduce flowering time , perhaps the white crees give out some far red?
before my LED units used far red flowering took a week longer than HPS, and with far red they seem to take a week less than HPS

thanks and much respect,

VG.

That's interesting.. I think I am gonna think twice when I'll built my fixture, Yes I wanna make my own LED light.
Anyway, I think I am personally gonna try the heatbulb, was even only for the heat? And the UVB ones.
I, At the moment added two 45w cfl's, I hanged them down very low nearly touching the bottom, at the two sides.
My temps, at plants area, went from 67 to 73.50, not too bad.

I too had a oil filled radiator, but on knna thread suggested using cfl and similar... so I thought... that's right..... why should I waste watts on radiator when I can have more light or something?

@captain kron, I have to strongly disagree with what you have said about temps, 78's range is optimal temps for MJ, without Co2 at all; You are right, YOU NEED CO2, but only when you reach 85 - 90 's, but til the 80's, that's a sweet spot for MJ, IT THRIVE.
 
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Kaptain Kron

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I've run in 110* weather and 60* weather with LEDs. I KNOW the optimal temps for LEDs with my plants and 70-75 is where it's at man. 80-85 your runnin co2 any higher and your inducing some fox tailing. Just a fact at least with all the strains I run. If you ran something I don't that may be the cause of your plants likin higher temps mine perform best at 75-80. I'm growin bubba, og, pineapple express, blue dream, og18, wonder woman, agent orange, master kush. All prefer the temps I've stated unless I'm boosting with co2.

I would not run a heater I'd run reptile bulbs as jubaire stated for extra Uv and heat. Your best option there really
 
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BudBaby

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jubiare said:
It seems like the dude added far reds (740nm) by adding them as LEDs to his panel! mmm
Sorry but I was mistaken, I think is the same day that those heat bulbs were mentioned by an other member:

great grow, great pics

can i ask if you find the flowering period to be normal or a bit longer with these LED units. i found that the addition of far-red (740nm) leds to a unit seems to reduce flowering time , perhaps the white crees give out some far red?
before my LED units used far red flowering took a week longer than HPS, and with far red they seem to take a week less than HPS

thanks and much respect,

VG.

That's interesting.. I think I am gonna think twice when I'll built my fixture, Yes I wanna make my own LED light.
Anyway, I think I am personally gonna try the heatbulb, was even only for the heat? And the UVB ones.
I, At the moment added two 45w cfl's, I hanged them down very low nearly touching the bottom, at the two sides.
My temps, at plants area, went from 67 to 73.50, not too bad.

I too had a oil filled radiator, but on knna thread suggested using cfl and similar... so I thought... that's right..... why should I waste watts on radiator when I can have more light or something?

@captain kron, I have to strongly disagree with what you have said about temps, 78's range is optimal temps for MJ, without Co2 at all; You are right, YOU NEED CO2, but only when you reach 85 - 90 's, but til the 80's, that's a sweet spot for MJ, IT THRIVE.
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Im sure the whites i have in my lights give out far red.. It just took me 12 weeks and 4 days for those super lemon haze. I think Griffta's grow with the same lights was on time though so maybe there not that slow after all.
 
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BudBaby

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Kaptain Kron said:
I've run in 110* weather and 60* weather with LEDs. I KNOW the optimal temps for LEDs with my plants and 70-75 is where it's at man. 80-85 your runnin co2 any higher and your inducing some fox tailing. Just a fact at least with all the strains I run. If you ran something I don't that may be the cause of your plants likin higher temps mine perform best at 75-80. I'm growin bubba, og, pineapple express, blue dream, og18, wonder woman, agent orange, master kush. All prefer the temps I've stated unless I'm boosting with co2.

I would not run a heater I'd run reptile bulbs as jubaire stated for extra Uv and heat. Your best option there really
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Thanks man. It makes sense really to only heat the grow space and not waste electric money heating the whole room. What about for my veg cabs would this work that too?
 
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