STAY AWAY FROM LED's!!!!!

curly604

curly604

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here it is bro , they are really expensive but man those look like some baddass units. http://www.blackdogled.com/products/platinum-xl

those guys only run 3w chips or higher but they costy for the goodness haha. im in contact with a couple of guys starting led companies that were led growers themselves first got sick of all the shit and now there opening there own companies. they got some real nice specs all 3w chips and at really affordable prices...... so they say haha.
 
Clonex

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Sorry about your you-tube link - this has been proven nothing more than an advert , the ufo's are junk i have trialed them , those plants were grown under Hid's is my guess and ufo's hung after (remember im no hater), your other link however i have seen before , and they do look the business , i have contacted them and asked for a trial on 1 unit , with a 50% deposit and posted forum journals , to which they declined, this makes me dubious , at nearly 2k each , i need to know as i would need 5 , you can see my dillema , i have not given up hope on these yet , thanks for your replies :-)
 
curly604

curly604

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Clonex said:
Sorry about your you-tube link - this has been proven nothing more than an advert , the ufo's are junk i have trialed them , those plants were grown under Hid's is my guess and ufo's hung after (remember im no hater), your other link however i have seen before , and they do look the business , i have contacted them and asked for a trial on 1 unit , with a 50% deposit and posted forum journals , to which they declined, this makes me dubious , at nearly 2k each , i need to know as i would need 5 , you can see my dillema , i have not given up hope on these yet , thanks for your replies :-)
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brotha man you gotta clear the bad thoughts about leds out of your head and start over, yes MOST UFO led's suck but not all. well to be fair i only know of those prosource ones to be good and i am not a fan of ufo's either but i have seen and talked to people that use those ones with great results...... i know that video might be hard to believe but those little fuckers cost a fuckass of a lot compared to other models and apparently deliver i myself have no experience with them but have seen journals that turned out well. that being said i would definitely stay away from ufo led's.

looking for good quality shit that wont break the bank? check growledhydro.com the spectra model they got is nice i have a 290w one and it kicks ass
 
curly604

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also mike the owner of GLH will give discounts for forum members and does wholesale discounts but i think that starts at 15+ units , pretty solid company if ya can get a hold of the guy (he needs a receptionist lol)
 
Clonex

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curly604 said:
brotha man you gotta clear the bad thoughts about leds out of your head and start over, yes MOST UFO led's suck but not all. well to be fair i only know of those prosource ones to be good and i am not a fan of ufo's either but i have seen and talked to people that use those ones with great results...... i know that video might be hard to believe but those little fuckers cost a fuckass of a lot compared to other models and apparently deliver i myself have no experience with them but have seen journals that turned out well. that being said i would definitely stay away from ufo led's.

looking for good quality shit that wont break the bank? check growledhydro.com the spectra model they got is nice i have a 290w one and it kicks ass
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You mis understood , the video you linked is a proven fake , and the third link , they just dont cut it in a large scale op , i wish they did.i did not say they "suck" i said they dont make them yet....
 
curly604

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hmmmm interesting well their ufo's do work i seen it haha but again i hate ufo's and dont recomend them anyhow. man it sucks that people have to fuck with the led industry so much with fake video's and fake reviews and shit .... fucking idiots.

well i guess i should have started by asking what size space you looking to fill?
 
Clonex

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curly604 said:
hmmmm interesting well their ufo's do work i seen it haha but again i hate ufo's and dont recomend them anyhow. man it sucks that people have to fuck with the led industry so much with fake video's and fake reviews and shit .... fucking idiots.

well i guess i should have started by asking what size space you looking to fill?
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Sorry yeah they do work in small closet/box grows , i run 4 x 600w hps in a 12x14 area, vert , umbrella parobolic hoods -ac cooled , 15 Large plants under each hood , some MH side lighting on runners....
 
curly604

curly604

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Clonex said:
Sorry yeah they do work in small closet/box grows , i run 4 x 600w hps in a 12x14 area, vert , umbrella parobolic hoods -ac cooled , 15 Large plants under each hood , some MH side lighting on runners....
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ok well, yep it could be done for sure. what i would do if i was running the show and was looking into led's is, well lets say i went with GLH i would grab 5 of the 500w models (which do run at 500w true power contradictory to the site) and slam em in there ....done , haha well not quite but i dont know if your familiar with irish boy but he is a grower here on riu that uses the spectra's and he pulled 19oz's from 1 of there 500w models pretty impressive in my books. my big thing is the heat hps gives off and the big ass expensive a/c units needed to cool them. how much ya pay for yours? i find that if you add up total cost of hps vs led , including all the crazy shit like the excessive amounts of fans and a/c units needed to cool hps that it comes pretty close especially if ya get a discount or wholesale price. and of coarse the cost of running these things over time compared to not will add up quick even more so if you live in a hot climate area a/c costs add up real fast
 
Clonex

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curly604 said:
ok well, yep it could be done for sure. what i would do if i was running the show and was looking into led's is, well lets say i went with GLH i would grab 5 of the 500w models (which do run at 500w true power contradictory to the site) and slam em in there ....done , haha well not quite but i dont know if your familiar with irish boy but he is a grower here on riu that uses the spectra's and he pulled 19oz's from 1 of there 500w models pretty impressive in my books. my big thing is the heat hps gives off and the big ass expensive a/c units needed to cool them. how much ya pay for yours? i find that if you add up total cost of hps vs led , including all the crazy shit like the excessive amounts of fans and a/c units needed to cool hps that it comes pretty close especially if ya get a discount or wholesale price. and of coarse the cost of running these things over time compared to not will add up quick even more so if you live in a hot climate area a/c costs add up real fast
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I did run a trial with 4 panels 3 years ago and the results were rubbish to be frank , when they were to hi , i could not get enough penertration and when lower i could not get coverage on enough plants , the light intensity just was not there , also the money i saved on power and less ventalation was wiped out , although the bud sizes were still there , and also some nice dank bud - but the density and weight was no where near , infact less than half , also alot of the heat my hid's is reproduced into my loose flowering tents which are on during the day as apose to main room which runs 12 hour cycle at night , so they keep each other warm if you get what i mean , when running all LED's i had to make this heat using space heaters , also not to cheap to run , in the end including the ridiculous price of the panels , me and my customers were far worse off ....
 
curly604

curly604

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Clonex said:
I did run a trial with 4 panels 3 years ago and the results were rubbish to be frank , when they were to hi , i could not get enough penertration and when lower i could not get coverage on enough plants , the light intensity just was not there , also the money i saved on power and less ventalation was wiped out , although the bud sizes were still there , and also some nice dank bud - but the density and weight was no where near , infact less than half , also alot of the heat my hid's is reproduced into my loose flowering tents which are on during the day as apose to main room which runs 12 hour cycle at night , so they keep each other warm if you get what i mean , when running all LED's i had to make this heat using space heaters , also not to cheap to run , in the end including the ridiculous price of the panels , me and my customers were far worse off ....
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alright , well if it was three years ago let me tell you things have changed a bit. if ya got into led's 3 years ago i can see where your hate / anguish is comig from , let me tell you in 3 years alot of ground has been taken and some led's have come into place to even trump hps in quality and yield. i dont know where ya live but i need no suplimental space heaters to keep my girls happy , nor does my buddy with a full house , but where i live has very mild winters so i understand your pain. some of the new lights that are out are on par with hps lights man , but thats when measured watt for watt alot of people get that shit mixed up.

also ever heard of sog? haha shit is awesome , people say dwarf plants , i say an entire plant that is all bud ..... and i can fit 10 of them in the space of 1 regular plant ....... sorry i love sog , way to g with led's. and some people say "ohhhhhh thats a dwarf grow" ......... so what if it matches your numbers then shut up , what does it matter anyway what style of grow i use .... if it works well for me then why the fuck not right. bongsmilie
 
virulient

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curly604 said:
alright , well if it was three years ago let me tell you things have changed a bit. if ya got into led's 3 years ago i can see where your hate / anguish is comig from , let me tell you in 3 years alot of ground has been taken and some led's have come into place to even trump hps in quality and yield. i dont know where ya live but i need no suplimental space heaters to keep my girls happy , nor does my buddy with a full house , but where i live has very mild winters so i understand your pain. some of the new lights that are out are on par with hps lights man , but thats when measured watt for watt alot of people get that shit mixed up.

also ever heard of sog? haha shit is awesome , people say dwarf plants , i say an entire plant that is all bud ..... and i can fit 10 of them in the space of 1 regular plant ....... sorry i love sog , way to g with led's. and some people say "ohhhhhh thats a dwarf grow" ......... so what if it matches your numbers then shut up , what does it matter anyway what style of grow i use .... if it works well for me then why the fuck not right. bongsmilie
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SoG/LED is great man, I have setup a few of those type of grows for my clients, and they LOVE it so far. What kind of LED panel(s) are you using/how many watts/whats your coverage area? Clonex doesn't like LED's because he grows monsters haha, he needs the penetration of the HID systems.

That being said, Clonex - If you have the cash up front, and you really want to try LED's, AdvancedLED has a 90 day, no questions asked, money back guarantee. And their DiamondSeries is hawt :) You could try flowering a few girls under them and see how you like them, because there's no question LED's are more than adequate for veg, the penetration during flowering is the only question. I think they would really surprise you.
 
curly604

curly604

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...... clonex so does black dog led ..... just gotta throw the money out up front .... i know though i wouldn't want to do it either .... who knows right.

and viru i have just started with led's but my first run i had 3 vegged and 3 12/12 from seed girls in my 4x4 tent under a 2 spectrum "120w" chineese led that ran at about 60-80 true watts and i pulled 2 oz's and that was my first hydro and first led run ..... lots of fuck ups .... i could have done even better but i was happy cause the bud was top notch "AAA" :D
 
virulient

virulient

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curly604 said:
...... clonex so does black dog led ..... just gotta throw the money out up front .... i know though i wouldn't want to do it either .... who knows right.

and viru i have just started with led's but my first run i had 3 vegged and 3 12/12 from seed girls in my 4x4 tent under a 2 spectrum "120w" chineese led that ran at about 60-80 true watts and i pulled 2 oz's and that was my first hydro and first led run ..... lots of fuck ups .... i could have done even better but i was happy cause the bud was top notch "AAA" :D
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Yea man, that's decent! I've set a few people up with a LED/DWC SoG setup and they're loving it. It's all automated, all they have to do is change the rez out every week and check their plants for problems daily. They're getting good results, too.
 
Clonex

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curly604 said:
alright , well if it was three years ago let me tell you things have changed a bit. if ya got into led's 3 years ago i can see where your hate / anguish is comig from , let me tell you in 3 years alot of ground has been taken and some led's have come into place to even trump hps in quality and yield. i dont know where ya live but i need no suplimental space heaters to keep my girls happy , nor does my buddy with a full house , but where i live has very mild winters so i understand your pain. some of the new lights that are out are on par with hps lights man , but thats when measured watt for watt alot of people get that shit mixed up.

also ever heard of sog? haha shit is awesome , people say dwarf plants , i say an entire plant that is all bud ..... and i can fit 10 of them in the space of 1 regular plant ....... sorry i love sog , way to g with led's. and some people say "ohhhhhh thats a dwarf grow" ......... so what if it matches your numbers then shut up , what does it matter anyway what style of grow i use .... if it works well for me then why the fuck not right. bongsmilie
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I agree with your comments , and i know results can be produced growing small plants"sea of green" to great effect , but my growing area is 9ft high , id be a fool no to use all the space - i took the 10k plunge 3 years ago , i will only do so again when i have all the correct evidence , which at present is not available , i have started a thread asking any large scale led growers to give me the nod , but nothing yet....
 
Clonex

Clonex

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virulient said:
SoG/LED is great man, I have setup a few of those type of grows for my clients, and they LOVE it so far. What kind of LED panel(s) are you using/how many watts/whats your coverage area? Clonex doesn't like LED's because he grows monsters haha, he needs the penetration of the HID systems.

That being said, Clonex - If you have the cash up front, and you really want to try LED's, AdvancedLED has a 90 day, no questions asked, money back guarantee. And their DiamondSeries is hawt :) You could try flowering a few girls under them and see how you like them, because there's no question LED's are more than adequate for veg, the penetration during flowering is the only question. I think they would really surprise you.
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good comments and i totally agree - i have taken this route with advanced led systems , but they declined , they offered 90 days , i asked for 120 days on 5 units , they didnt even consider it , i told them i wanted to logg a complete journal , using sativa dominant strains , with a 40 day vegg cycle and an 80 day flower period , they would have access to the journal and of course would be holding my money , they ran a mile ........it's no wonder im dubious ehh...
 
Da.Midnight.Toker

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how many watts of led will i need for just 2 plants? Im an absolute beginner here and have nooooooo clue lol. All halp and advice much appreciated :)
 
curly604

curly604

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your in the wrong thread bro , check out the "led growing is the way of the future" or the "led users unite" thread you'll get some good info there :)
 
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My experience with a Blackstar LED and a mess of CFLs was nothing but positive. Growth was relatively quick after the plants were placed in a larger space. The buds were covered in crystals at the end and the smell was pungent. I was so pleased that I planned on getting another LED to toss in for the next round.
 
Da.Midnight.Toker

Da.Midnight.Toker

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How many watts of cfl dual for 2 plants? Its a bit on top where I live, people gettin busted all time so would prefer to use leds really. Again, all help and advice appreciated ;D
 
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