captainmorgan
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Is there a web site that goes into detail about the different methods and the pros and cons?
squamous cell carcinoma head and neck stage 4
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Dr.Pecker
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If you find it let me know.
captainmorgan
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panhead
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If your able to watch the hell out of the hospice workers , unless its a real nurse round the clock most hospice workers are just plain ole people , ive had a very bad experience with hospice workers when my family member died .
Expensive shit from the home came up missing & his pain killers were stolen , he was being fed 4 vicodens a day while the pharmacy was dropping off Oxycontin , he was supposed to get an 80 mg oxycontin 3 times a day & a 30 my roxycodone every 2 to 4 hours for break thru pain , the hospice bitch was feeding him vicodens he had left over before they put him on oxy , the hospice bitch also stole an entire box of 75mg fentanyl patches he had .
They let him lay there tore up with pain & fed him worthless vicodens crushed up in applesauce telling him it was his new medicine , fukin bitch didnt count on me knowing my shit about prescription opiates & i made her show me how she dosed him.
I called his doctor & got the skinny on exact meds & doseages , i called the hospice company & they gave me shit so i had to get the police involved , they found a half empty bottle of his 30mg roxys in the bitches purse & arrested her , she got 26 months in prison but my family member suffered his ass off for about a week before i stepped in.
If you are close enough to this person where you can come & go as you please let all hospice workers know your making sure he is medicated to the exact limits set by his doctor & that you'll be watching .
I hope it works out for you brother .
Dr.Pecker
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That's a damn good perspective!
Cory and trevor
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That's where I get the most technical info. Good site. Cbd project too.
Huel Perkins
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Winterizing and dewaxing are a waste unless you plan on smoking/dabbing the final product.
On another forum there was a thread where someone lab tested the waxes they removed after winterizing and found it contained 60% cannabinoids...
On another forum there was a thread where someone lab tested the waxes they removed after winterizing and found it contained 60% cannabinoids...
Cory and trevor
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Winterizing and dewaxing are terms I'm not familiar with. Short explanation?????
shredder4
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Winterizing refers to the freezing part, dewaxing also called polishing, is as expected, removing plant wax. This may be more important in iso extractions.
The plant material will hold water and some of the water is from the iso. The freezing allows it to freeze and be easily filtered away. Normal filtering after extracting misses some of this, winterizing cleans it up.
It's common for some peeps using iso extracted meds to suffer stomach problems. Winterizing takes care of this. And for the caregiver you have a very clean, very strong extraction that can be predictable for dosing patients, and the caregiver can be confident he/she is not harming patients they're trying to help.
Think of it something like the difference between whipped honey oil vrs shatter baked in a vacume oven. It is a cleaner product with less solvent present.
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Cory and trevor
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I froze the plant material and the iso prior to the wash and double filtered through slow paper coffee filters. I assume then that my oil is winterized.
Dr.Pecker
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I think shredder is talking about freezing the iso solution. the alcohol will stay and the water will freeze allowing you to remove the water. my aunt would make this apple pie booze and I always thought it was kind of weak so I would freeze it and poor off the alcohol and all the ice would stay behind. It left me with damn near moon shine.
shredder4
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No, there is another step, after your method was assumed rendered down and finished, I re melt the oil in alcohol and use either ever clear 190 or Kleen xtract for winterizing. I heat the oil/alcohol mix in a glass measuring cup on a coffee cup warmer mixing well, then I freeze for 3 days then filter again, some waxes get stuck in the filter and some will freeze and stick to the jar it was in. You actually get quite a bit more junk out of oil you prolly thought was clean. You of course get less oil, but it's of high quality and stronger, and I think safer than using just iso.
There is more of an explanation and better explained on the skunk pharm web site.
Anyway I hope this helps your patient. Good luck.
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Dr.Pecker
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That's pretty interesting. I always make ice hash and use that for all my infusions (glycerin, coconut, sunflower,peanut)oils/balms. I just heat it up and infuse them together.
shredder4
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Nothing wrong with that, and much less hassle. I've made meds like this many times. The plant waxes don't really matter in a canna cap. It's the dosing that's hard to master. And then when you work with a purer product you can be more precise in dosing.
In the quest for better, more accurate dosing, we went this route. My wife swore off mj after one episode. I lured her back tho, but it took months, lol. And despite what many think iso is a very good solvent, but it can be too good, and it is not good for us, so quick frozen washes of 4-5 minutes is what we use. Then everything else is getting rid of the iso. If co2 extractions were readily available I'd use that. I'm not married to this, but at this time it's the best I can do.
And the winterizing business just steps this up another notch. You have prolly heard the dosing advice of a glob of oil the size of a grain of rice? With winterized oil one drop would be a strong dose. A grain of rice size could be an all day and maybe all night deal.