Spicysativa's Cheese Quake Grow

trichmasta

trichmasta

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Maybe go 1/4 strength with the nutes if and when you do decide to feed.

So do you think the low ph wore out your ph buffer(dolomite lime) through low ph tea feedings? I've never phd my teas and have amazing results and a very live soil web...

i really think dialing in the amounts of super soil is critical per genetics and then feed when they start running out of juice...start light, maybe to a top dress with ss if time permits.
 
SpicySativa

SpicySativa

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Not really sure what happened... I only gave a couple teas the whole grow, and fed twice with Earth Juice once the problems started showing up. Watered with about half strength Pure Blend Pro at pH 6.5, runoff was 6.5... Odd, but I'll take it.

I suspect they were hungry, and the acidic nutrients didn't do it for them. Hopefully this time it will work...
 
The New Jim Jones

The New Jim Jones

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it takes time to show in soil, the only way i can think of to know if its stopped is if there arent anymore signs of it, one way is to tape(small piece just as a sign) on the top of each diseased leaf, and if anymore show up you willll know if they were there before or not because of the tape, it doesnt have to be tape, just some way to mark em, or not, just my 2 cents
 
SpicySativa

SpicySativa

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Haha. Sadly, that would be a lot of tape... I think I'll be able to see if it's stopped progressing, or at least slowed down. Just have to wait and see...
 
SpicySativa

SpicySativa

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This fellow posting on the Michigan Medical site had a very similar issue with Earth Juice.

http://michiganmedicalmarijuana.org/topic/35857-earth-juice/

The yellow White Widow leaf with the brown blotches starting at the veins and spreading outward looks EXACTLY like how the issues started on my Cheese Quakes. The issues were just barely showing before the Earth Juice (likely due to the acidic fungi AACT), then seemed to keep getting worse QUICK after adding the acidic EJ. This makes me very confident that my problem was low pH causing lockouts.

The pH seems to be back in check for now, so hopefully it's smooth sailing from here on!

Lesson learned: pH is still very important in Super Soil. I guess if I'd given it some more thought I would have realized that the SS recipe calls for FAR less dolomite lime than I was adding in my previous organic runs where I sucessfully ignored pH completely.
 
StickEnugzz

StickEnugzz

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SpicySativa said:
This fellow posting on the Michigan Medical site had a very similar issue with Earth Juice.

http://michiganmedicalmarijuana.org/topic/35857-earth-juice/

The yellow White Widow leaf with the brown blotches starting at the veins and spreading outward looks EXACTLY like how the issues started on my Cheese Quakes. The issues were just barely showing before the Earth Juice (likely due to the acidic fungi AACT), then seemed to keep getting worse QUICK after adding the acidic EJ. This makes me very confident that my problem was low pH causing lockouts.

The pH seems to be back in check for now, so hopefully it's smooth sailing from here on!

Lesson learned: pH is still very important in Super Soil. I guess if I'd given it some more thought I would have realized that the SS recipe calls for FAR less dolomite lime than I was adding in my previous organic runs where I sucessfully ignored pH completely.
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Nice save. Keep in mind that as Sphagnum Peat breaks down, your mix will require more Dolomite Lime to balance out the high acidity of the decomposing peat. I try to use soil mixes for as long as possible because I believe it takes longer for some materials(Bone Meal, Oyster Shell) to become available as opposed to others that are more water soluble and more readily available(EWC). Invariably used up at a more rapid rate. Also keep in mind that I grow in a no till planter so much of what I do doesn't transfer to someone who uses a fresh mix each rotation. Sounds like you got all sorted out, good eye. Best of luck in the future and keep er green!
 
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whitey78

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Im gonna guess all the nutes are sucked out of the leaves??? Less chlorophyll left to give that hayish/wet taste? I really dont know but it seems to work out like that though....
 
SpicySativa

SpicySativa

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Forgot to mention... In the T5 cabinet picture above, that was 4 potential Cheese Quake moms (1 from each of the 4 I am flowering right now) and 4 new XJ-13 clones I picked up the other day. I love that XJ...
 
SpicySativa

SpicySativa

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Too early to tell, really. They all smell great. The cheesier smelling one looks like it's going tto yield a little less (taller with more space between nodes) but nice and frosty. The other three have more grape/fruity smell, but still some cheese funk in the background. I like the structure of the one that got hit hardest by the lockout. Compact with chunky buds.

I'll just have to wait and see!
 
SpicySativa

SpicySativa

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Hey Subbie,My shortest 2 seem to smell the most grapey, and the tallest has the cheese funk. It's hard to say which one has the sweetest smell. I'll see if I can tell this evening.It's been interesting having clones of all 4 in my T5 cabinet along side the flowering girls. The clone of the seed plant with the most yellowing (the shortest, most indica dom), used up all the nutrition in its Roots soil and started showing deficiencies before all the rest. It must be an especially hungry pheno.
 
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