Sour Diesel S1

Dr Greenthumb now has Sour D S1 seeds on sale. The Doc is a very reputable seller so these seeds are def trustworthy. The price is kinda steep, $200 a pack but if you are like me and have no way to get cuts I am sure it will be worth it.

I hate to endorse ol numb nutz Rez for anything,,but even his SD offerings would be light years ahead of an S1 of this cut...
I've personally seen 75% male ratios from his seeds of SD but at least the gals have a good chance of being somewhat solid.

Don't expect them to look like the pics I've posted as they don't,,,I've grown his stuff out years ago as well ...

His SD IBL which isn't truly an inbred line but a back cross has afghani genes in it and offers a different floral build and
structure,,but the occasional flyer will pop up and look pretty close.

My advice is to look at a super silver diesel haze hybrid if you must have Diesel hype...

"The Doc is a very reputable seller so these seeds are def trustworthy."


By selling these beans alone shows this statement to be laughable to anybody with
knowledge!

and to charge 200 dollars!! ???

he should be strung up by his nut sack.....and used as a Pinata !

That's criminal! the whole med scene has been over run with greedy
ignorant bastards that don't know shit ,except how to capitalize off of
the uninformed.

and that ,they are managing quite well....

The dispensaries are selling meds for more than black market prices
and offering equal or inferior product..

The hydro stores are pawning every damned snake oil you can imagine'
that is far from necessary to have a successful grow,,,for a fortune.


The seed merchants are selling beans that as a whole ,most are never
grown out to even see the actual results leaving their descriptions a
stab in the dark at best...



It's a dark time in the MJ world today

Cabron1 said:

"The Doc is a very reputable seller so these seeds are def trustworthy."


By selling these beans alone shows this statement to be laughable to anybody with
knowledge!

and to charge 200 dollars!! ???

he should be strung up by his nut sack.....and used as a Pinata !

That's criminal! the whole med scene has been over run with greedy
ignorant bastards that don't know shit ,except how to capitalize off of
the uninformed.

and that ,they are managing quite well....

The dispensaries are selling meds for more than black market prices
and offering equal or inferior product..

The hydro stores are pawning every damned snake oil you can imagine'
that is far from necessary to have a successful grow,,,for a fortune.


The seed merchants are selling beans that as a whole ,most are never
grown out to even see the actual results leaving their descriptions a
stab in the dark at best...



It's a dark time in the MJ world today

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telling it like it is,thats not the "norm" around here,
keep spreading the knowledge.

Go with Paradise Seeds Acid @110 for 10 fem seeds.It Imo is the best feminized diesel strain out there that I think even dr.g cant beat and dr.g is good. I heard that dr.g's is actually a ecsd x g13 cross also.

punkenstien said:

Go with Paradise Seeds Acid @110 for 10 fem seeds.It Imo is the best feminized diesel strain out there that I think even dr.g cant beat and dr.g is good. I heard that dr.g's is actually a ecsd x g13 cross also.

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Doc G has a "Sour 13" sour diesel x g13, and now has the straight Sour Diesel also.

Cabron you are wrong! i have grown greenthumb's S1 OG, Bubba Kush, C99, Chemdawg,Iranian ,Trainwreck and have not had a single hermy or male flower yet. not one.

Doc's offerings are well worth the money invested. In over a decade of running his gear I have NEVER had a single herm. Check out my Sour 13 grow journal here.
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/343712-dr-greenthumb-seeds-sour-13-a.html
And yes, ECSD can herm on you if you let her go too long, or provide a poor growing enviornment, but MOST people I know have not had this problem. If it bothers you to have to pick a nanner or two off then don't grow it. No different than the Arcata Trainwreck.

I have to agree with Porc and Chemdawg about the price. One branch off one plant pays for the seeds and I get to keep it in my garden as long as i want...doesnt sound like a rip off to me.

My question to carbon is...have you ever grown any of the Doc's gear?
I couldnt tell from your posts if you ever have.

so where can i can a cut of this ecsd haha

Cabron1 said:

Ummm hey Chemdummy,,,you wanna compare apples to oranges?

The ecsd cut is a Hermie,it (The cut) can be grown successfully without fully pollenating a crop ,if stress is kept to a minimal.
It's offspring however are full blown hermies,,,this due to it's heritage and selection (lack of) proper breeding material.

The strains you mentioned are NOT the ecsd S1 so your reply is as ignorant as it gets.

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Dude, whats your problem? Why so argumentative? Chemdummy? Ignorant? I didnt see anybody attack you. Makes me think you have an axe to grind against the Doc. I like people giving out info, but why the name calling? I dont get it.

Cabron1 said:

Just wanted to add one thing I don't have a problem with a few so called "Nanners" being a single staminate that protrudes from the floral clusters
that never is allowed to open or pollenate..

I am telling you these produce full on male staminate in clusters that fully mature quickly and open (under the canopy) and will fully pollenate
your whole room,that is a major concern,and that is my idea of a hermie..

This is exactly what these S1's provide....

I don't have an axe to grind with anybody ,except scam artists and profiteers,,,anybody selling ECSD S1's and claiming to be an ethical
breeder is just that!
I made them as an experiment and quickly and completely took notice that these are NOT suitable in any way nor should ever be sold...

as far as Dr Gruber goes....


Dude!! I'm done here...
Try engaging your brain next time,,,before you make a comparison between altogether different genetic material..


Dude!!

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Okay youre done here...but next time try your own advice about engaging your brain and learn how to read. Never once did I compare any genetic material, so what the ----are you talking about? I am simply asking about your attitude, which is very combatative. Take a chill pill and go with the intended spirt of this forum, which is to learn...not fight.

I'll argue with you all day Cabron. I have personal experience w/ ECSD as well. Guess what, NO HERMS!!! I gaurantee you I'll take Doc's word, results, and cut before yours. His reputation precedes him and he would never release a strain that will herm on his custumers. Why don't you grow some of Doc's gear before you bash it. How do you know you even have the cut that Doc has? I also have several friends in Humbolt who grow ECSD exclusively with NO problems. ECSD has a tendency to throw out nanners VERY late in the flowering cycle just like I stated above, as it was an accidental cross in the first place. Anybody with some experience under their belt can handle ECSD. It's not that hard. And as to your S1's, they were probably either bagseed or Silver Thiosulfate, or Gibberellic Acid induced seeds. Doc uses none of these methods. Go bash someone else. Just because you can't handle ECSD doesn't mean the rest of us can't. If you don't want to chance a few male flowers late in flowering then that's your problem and don't run it. But don't come on here with a bunch of misinformation trying to tell people not to buy from one of the most reputable breeders on the planet.
Buy the way, Dr Greenthumb is not across the pond. He's a couple hundred miles north of the Buffalo New York area.

cabron is a rude jerk and a know-it-all
seen them here many times before quack,quack,quack...

another mr knowitall sheesh,

hows it feel cabron, asshat no nothing

Unstable much there cabron? Good riddance, one less argumentative hole spoutin rumors and misinformation. Way too much of that goin on in the mj world today, it's so stupid. Do you realize on every mj related forum people are arguing endlessly over stupid ecsd, chemD and blah blah blah, find a new strain. ECSD and Chemdawg arent even that good after you get over the hype and actually spend some time smoking/vaping the stuff. They're meh and there are plenty of other spectacular strains out there. Rez SD is weak, ECSD is good, but so not worth all the hype and vicious forum arguments. IMO these strains are more about flavor than potency, there are other more potent and equally tasty strains around.

It's funny to see so many clones on the different forums who argue the same tired ass stuff about the same tired strains.

What happened to Carbons posts? Some of them disappeared.

i don't know but he was on another thread arguing with a dude. when it got hairy he told the guy he wasn't going to argue with him and that he put him on ignore, then proceeded to slap up post after post of rude arguments and name calling toward the guy he supposedly was "ignoring". i don't even have the whole story about this thread since half of it is missing. just woah on that guy.

Here is a thread just started from somebody who is going to grow it out. From his previous threads (greenthumb's c99 )he will probably not update to often but he does give a descent grow/smoke report by the end.

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/360886-dr-greenthumbs-sour-diesel-grow.html

NickNasty said:

Here is a thread just started from somebody who is going to grow it out. From his previous threads (greenthumb's c99 )he will probably not update to often but he does give a descent grow/smoke report by the end.

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/360886-dr-greenthumbs-sour-diesel-grow.html

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thanks for the shout out Nick.....I do plan to update often as long as I have something to show.