Someone Help ASAP

Patches33

New Member
Hello! This is my 2nd grow and I'm having some issues this time around.

I've been fighting some issues for about 3-4 weeks now. What started out as what I believe was a nutrient burn, then to nitrogen toxicity, then to being deficit in nutrients because of a lock out. Which has caused all the yellowing/the claw/burnt tips ECT.

Here's what I've done,
I've flushed them with 3 waterings with just PH balanced water and the last watering 2 days ago was with half nutrients. After flushing them and then giving half nutrients they started to look better and was pointed towards the light.

Today I looked at them and they are all sagging really bad and it looks like the tops have all pointed up and are curling!

Someone please help me figure out what is going on! They looked like they were getting better now I think they look worse and that something is seriously wrong.

Median: Coco & Perlite
In 5 Gallon Cloth Pots
Exhaust fan, fan circulating air
600W Viparspectra LED Light
The light is 27" from the tops
Temperature: 70F - 76F
Humidity: 45% - 60%
Watering ever 1-2 days
PH: 5.8 - 6.2
Light Cycle: 24/7
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Nutty sKunK

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Having your lights on 24hr for starters isn’t helping. I had a plant that was drooping like yours and after trail error it was the 24hr lighting. The others where fine but this one done better on 20/4. So now I stick with 20/4 regardless.

That’s a lot of water in a short amount of time. I know u can keep coco wetter than soil but perhaps that’s the issue?
 

etruthfx

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Having your lights on 24hr for starters isn’t helping. I had a plant that was drooping like yours and after trail error it was the 24hr lighting. The others where fine but this one done better on 20/4. So now I stick with 20/4 regardless.

That’s a lot of water in a short amount of time. I know u can keep coco wetter than soil but perhaps that’s the issue?
24 hours of light won't cause any problems...
@op you didn't mention what is your nutrient regimine?
I see signs of immobile deficiencies on the oldest leaves, you say you gave them nutes, new growth should be good, old leaves not going to recover.
I believe there is signs of CaMg deficiency as indicated by purple stems and what looks like rust on the leaves.
Yellowing from the tips on bottom leaves is N def, if you fed them already i'd not worry
 
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Patches33

New Member
Okay thank you guys for all of your feedback I really do appreciate it! My biggest concern is seeing the tops fold up completely! All the tops were spread out and now they've completely closed up like the one in the first picture. Has anybody ever experienced this before?
 

etruthfx

Well-Known Member
Okay thank you guys for all of your feedback I really do appreciate it! My biggest concern is seeing the tops fold up completely! All the tops were spread out and now they've completely closed up like the one in the first picture. Has anybody ever experienced this before?
Fresh growth looks green and growing to me, still didnt say what you're feeding them? You got a tent and stuff so you must be takin' it seriously investing money and what not. Good on you for getting educated on your investments. Just give them grow+calmag and they should sort them selves out no problem, if you hadn't already.
 
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Patches33

New Member
Fresh growth looks green and growing to me, still didnt say what you're feeding them? You got a tent and stuff so you must be takin' it seriously investing money and what not. Good on you for getting educated on your investments. Just give them grow+calmag and they should sort them selves out no problem, if you hadn't already.
Thank you I appreciate the support!

They are on General Hydroponics & CalMag
The Micro/Grow/Bloom

Nutrient Exacts Per Gallon:
CalMag: 2ML
Micro: 2ML
Gro: 1ML
Bloom: 2ML

Sorry for freaking out a bit. I've been dealing with the deficiencies and lock outs for a bit without stressing to much. But yesterday they freaked me out with how their tops all pointed straight up and we're closed up! Looked like those Venus flie trap plants lol! And they were all sagging really weirdly if that makes sense.

I can confirm that today that they appear to be doing better. I will add some pictures soon. Besides the weird pointing up they did, does anyone have any ideas what the biggest thing wrong could be? The new growths ends are really curly. I think I might have it under control now after flushing them and cutting their nutes back. At this point I think I need to give them some time and see how the new growth starts to look.
 

etruthfx

Well-Known Member
Thank you I appreciate the support!

They are on General Hydroponics & CalMag
The Micro/Grow/Bloom

Nutrient Exacts Per Gallon:
CalMag: 2ML
Micro: 2ML
Gro: 1ML
Bloom: 2ML

Sorry for freaking out a bit. I've been dealing with the deficiencies and lock outs for a bit without stressing to much. But yesterday they freaked me out with how their tops all pointed straight up and we're closed up! Looked like those Venus flie trap plants lol! And they were all sagging really weirdly if that makes sense.

I can confirm that today that they appear to be doing better. I will add some pictures soon. Besides the weird pointing up they did, does anyone have any ideas what the biggest thing wrong could be? The new growths ends are really curly. I think I might have it under control now after flushing them and cutting their nutes back. At this point I think I need to give them some time and see how the new growth starts to look.
I've never used the gh line, so as far as grow/micro/bloom I do not know.
I do know that you need calmag+grow+micro. In veg they need more grow than bloom, inverse in flower. I'm sure you will dial it in. I would cut back on the bloom a bit during veg, it is possible to give them too much micro too they don't need alot. Peace
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On the bottle of calmag it normally 5ml/gallon, I normally go 10ml/gal and that's fine for me but they grow rapid with good airflow, doesn't hurt them. Consider less bloom and micro, and slightly more calmag and the same ammount of grow, Just my opinion, but you will dial it in for what works for you.
 
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CoB_nUt

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Temps. Low temps will cause uptake issues.I'd try getting the environment in a good veg zone with the lighting you are using. I'd do this first before any feed adjustments. Can't really tell the healthy due to the lighting.
The plants look healthy considering the lighting,can you get pics under non-blurple lighting?
Don't let 1 off leaf have you chasing ghosts.
 

RainmakerJ

New Member
You are not giving it enough Gro - that would cause many issues. I would give equal portions of all and make sure your ppm does not go over 900. Otherwise dilute with RO water.
 
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