What about the second?
Some quick points for you atheists / satanists.
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The second death is an ultimate and eternal separation from God. The expression is found four times in the book of Revelation ( 2:11; 20:6,14; 21:
. J.H. Thayer defined the “second death” as “the miserable state of the wicked dead in hell” (Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament, Edinburgh: T.&T. Clark, 1958, p. 283).The "First" death then, is the physical death that each person dies on this earth - a physical, but TEMPORARY death from which everyone will be resurrected. Those who are righteous will be resurrected to everlasting life and those who are wicked will be resurrected for the judgment and the "Second Death", believed by nearly ALL to be a physical death also, but this time the death is presumed to be PERMANENT!
This is me looking up second death on christian websites no less..... What am I missing here?
eye exaggerate
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I'm sure that is what is meant by "don't be afraid of the one who can take your life, but 'afraid = reverent toward' the one who can take your soul (fire)."
Presupposition, sure, but I am well with it. Anyway, now we'd have to start defining what 'righteous - wicked - infradimensions' is / are and I just smoked something found in: https://www.rollitup.org/inspired-art/465417-stoner-photography-6.html#post6497331 ...it's 9:17
No don't worry about it the Bible defines all that too. And this is all just assuming that not only is god real but this particular religion is real and that we even have souls at all. Of course theres no real actual proof of any of this because that would just be too easyI'm sure that is what is meant by "don't be afraid of the one who can take your life, but 'afraid = reverent toward' the one who can take your soul (fire)."
Presupposition, sure, but I am well with it. Anyway, now we'd have to start defining what 'righteous - wicked - infradimensions' is / are and I just smoked something found in: https://www.rollitup.org/inspired-art/465417-stoner-photography-6.html#post6497331 ...it's 9:17
eye exaggerate
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...why do you say that it's particular to a certain religion?No don't worry about it the Bible defines all that too. And this is all just assuming that not only is god real but this particular religion is real and that we even have souls at all. Of course theres no real actual proof of any of this because that would just be too easy
Uh well because we were just talking about the Bible and what it means to its followers. When I said we had to assume that this particular religion was correct even if there was a god, I meant any religion that bases its faith on the Bible (because thats what we were talking about, get it?)
eye exaggerate
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...the bible is a few different books. I get it. Like rewrites and amalgamations of mithraism, etc. It's so easy to pinpoint a soul.
that makes no sense...
Hepheastus420
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Exactly man....
Beefbisquit
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If it was easy to pinpoint the soul science wouldn't have a problem with dualism.
eye exaggerate
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...makes for a wide spectrum of vocation
Beefbisquit
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Dualism is dead... lol...makes for a wide spectrum of vocation
Or it's certainly got it's work cut out for it.... there are a plethora of other theories that better describe the mind/brain connection. Identity Theory, Functionalism (strong AI and Blackbox) etc etc etc etc... What it boils down to is there are far more likely explanations for consciousness than a soul.
cannabitch81
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If religious ppl don't care if we believe or not, why the hell do they knock on my door and beg me to go to their church? This always seems to happen while i'm getting high and watching porn. LOL
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
If you go directly to the door, I'll guarantee they'll stop coming. cn
cannabitch81
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LMFAO... Omg, you set me up soooo good, but i'm going to bite my tongue and keep it clean.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
But you won't stop coming, right?
(like in "Grandma's Boy", ~grin~) cn
Hepheastus420
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They put up a small effort to get you to follow their religion. The bible says to try to convert people and if they don't want too, then just leave them alone....