Some advice please.

ESkinny · Nov 10, 2009

dbo24242 said:
It looks good man. Full spectrum that light should be enough until it is about 2 inches high then I would advise you pick up 4 6500k daylight cfl and 4 2700k warm light cfl and 3 socket splitters and a clamp lamp and put 4 cfls on it. Something like 3 6500 and 1 2700 for veg and then 3 2700 and 1 6500 for flower. the ratios I put up earlier are just like if you have 27 lights there should be like 18 2700 and 9 6500 for flower or if you have 28, 21 should be 2700 and 7 should be 6500. for veg it should be the other way with more 6500s than 2700s.

full spectrums are always good though.

I would stick with 23-26w bulbs, splitters, and clamps so you can run 4 of them on one socket. if you try to run four 42 watt lamps you are gonna be risking heat problems on the socket. plus 4 lamps = better spread.

It's 1 7/8" tall right now, so I better get on this light setup.

Here is the lighting I'm using at the moment. It's 2700k. When I get new bulbs, should I not use it, or can I use a couple 6500k and incorporate this work light in the grow?

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1vZ1xr5/R-100655361/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053

Also, I do stick my finger in the soil daily, and it is always dry, that's why I water it so much. I give it a cup of distilled, and the next day the top 3 inches of soil is bone dry.

Should I be transplanting this plant to a larger container, or should this pot be large enough?

Again, thanks a lot for all of your help guys. I'm learning plenty.

Burger Boss · Nov 10, 2009

yourlocal420 said:
No offense but your grow is a failure in the making.

1. Growing in a house thats owned by a cops son.
2. Using inadequate light, and light of the wrong spectrum
3 Growing in a clear cup and exposing the roots to light.
4. Using MG potting soil. OMG don't you dare use that devils dirt!

Half assed attempts have half assed results. If you are serious about growing some herb man you need to correct the issues above. If not you probably will have a very unhealthy plant that won't produce much bud if any. Or what you do get will be hermied and full of seeds. Just what I would what to get caught growing and doing time for. BUNK WEED! Well good luck anyways. Hope it works out.

UH... regarding the "devil's dirt" thing. I've taken the liberty of posting a few shots of this years grow in 10 gallon containers filled with the afore mentioned "devil's dirt". I wish you all good luck & good grow....BB bongsmilie

ESkinny · Nov 10, 2009

Burger Boss said:
UH... regarding the "devil's dirt" thing. I've taken the liberty of posting a few shots of this years grow in 10 gallon containers filled with the afore mentioned "devil's dirt". I wish you all good luck & good grow....BB

Holy shit, they're huge! Are they growing in a backyard? And, if so, how the hell do you get away with a mammoth plant like that?

dbo24242 · Nov 10, 2009

I don't see why that light wouldn't work but I also not quite sure why you would want to use it. It is more efficient to have 3 20 watt than one 60 watt for spread of light, heat issues, and everything else. I think I've brought that point up multiple times. I'm serious bro, a lot of people who use CFLs complain big time about heat issues with the higher wattage. Anything about 42w pretty much is gonna be real hot. If you use ~20w cfls you can use 4 per socket and minimize the number of cords and sockets you use per light which helps the even spread of light accross the bush. You can have 2 of those, or 6 smaller ones, which will effectively spread accros the plant 3x better. The problem with CFLs is penetration through the leafs so you want to have the lights on all sides of the plant not just right above the very top.

ESkinny said:
It's 1 7/8" tall right now, so I better get on this light setup.

Here is the lighting I'm using at the moment. It's 2700k. When I get new bulbs, should I not use it, or can I use a couple 6500k and incorporate this work light in the grow?

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1vZ1xr5/R-100655361/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053

Also, I do stick my finger in the soil daily, and it is always dry, that's why I water it so much. I give it a cup of distilled, and the next day the top 3 inches of soil is bone dry.

Should I be transplanting this plant to a larger container, or should this pot be large enough?

Again, thanks a lot for all of your help guys. I'm learning plenty.

dbo24242 · Nov 10, 2009

Burger Boss said:
UH... regarding the "devil's dirt" thing. I've taken the liberty of posting a few shots of this years grow in 10 gallon containers filled with the afore mentioned "devil's dirt". I wish you all good luck & good grow....BB

That is exactly why you don't use MG. Those could be so much better but unfortunately you used shitty ass soil. Nice work.

Burger Boss · Nov 10, 2009

Hey Skinny, if you are curious about "how I did it", check out my grow journal: 2009 grow from Burger Boss, I pretty much explain everything in there. Thanks very much for your positive interest, I really worked my ass off this year, but, omg, has it ever paid off. Good luck & good grow.......BB

Burger Boss · Nov 10, 2009

dbo24242 said:
That is exactly why you don't use MG. Those could be so much better but unfortunately you used shitty ass soil. Nice work.

& you are out of your bloody mind! The Lemon Skunk you chose to bash is 6 inches off the ceiling of a 12 foot high grow area & approx. 8 feet in diameter. Yes, it looks pretty crappy now, according to my reading of the tricomes i'll harvest in the next 2 or 3 days. I am looking for 24/30 oz's of some damn fine smoke. The ONLY problem I had with the MG was OVER PRODUCTION!

ESkinny · Nov 10, 2009

dbo24242 said:
I don't see why that light wouldn't work but I also not quite sure why you would want to use it. It is more efficient to have 3 20 watt than one 60 watt for spread of light, heat issues, and everything else. I think I've brought that point up multiple times. I'm serious bro, a lot of people who use CFLs complain big time about heat issues with the higher wattage. Anything about 42w pretty much is gonna be real hot. If you use ~20w cfls you can use 4 per socket and minimize the number of cords and sockets you use per light which helps the even spread of light accross the bush. You can have 2 of those, or 6 smaller ones, which will effectively spread accros the plant 3x better. The problem with CFLs is penetration through the leafs so you want to have the lights on all sides of the plant not just right above the very top.

No, I understand what you are saying about light coverage and that it's better to use 10 lower watt CFLs, than it would be to use a few higher watt CFLs. Because, the total wattage would be equal, but the light would be less concentrated, and more spread out, providing more even coverage to all parts of the plants. I'm just trying to be resourceful and utilize what I have.

But, I will go with your advice and grab a lamp clamp, three 26w 6500k daylight CFL bulbs, three 23w 2700k warm light CFL bulbs and 3 socket splitters, for now. I will double that in a week or two and get a second lamp clamp with splitters.

I know I'm prying now, but do you think I should transplant? Or leave it in that pot?

darkdestruction420 · Nov 10, 2009

wait to transplant, how long do you plan to veg b4 switching to 12/12? if you flower it when its kinda young still i dont think you'd have to at all. if you want to veg for a while wait a month and transplant it a week or two b4 you plan on switching to flower into 5 gl buckets w/holes drilled in the bottom u could.

dbo24242 · Nov 10, 2009

Burger Boss said:
& you are out of your bloody mind! The Lemon Skunk you chose to bash is 6 inches off the ceiling of a 12 foot high grow area & approx. 8 feet in diameter. Yes, it looks pretty crappy now, according to my reading of the tricomes i'll harvest in the next 2 or 3 days. I am looking for 24/30 oz's of some damn fine smoke. The ONLY problem I had with the MG was OVER PRODUCTION!

its a shame really man it could be so much better. the success you have with MG is a great plant, which could be much better if you gave it better nutrients.

I never said MG doesn't work, but its not nearly as good as more expensive alternatives or organics. Organics are waaaaaaay better. Organic MG is ok tho there are better tailored products for weed. Or homemade mixes. Most any all in 1 plant nutrient is equivalent or better than MG.

Ya and about the transplanting the only reason you would transplant is for new soil or to allow yourself more time in between watering, but really you can grow a decent sized plant from a keg cup you'll just water it 2x a day.

progeater · Nov 10, 2009

it sounds like you may need to start over to me, just because of my past experience.
i had a plant in a pot with miracle gro soil back in some woods but i was afraid of it getting stolen (niggers stole 3 of my little plants, luckily they were just given to me), so i dug up a hole and planted it with some topsoil. then it died, and there was nothing i could do about it. i figured out it was because of a dramatic pH change.

so possibly if you transplant it into miracle gro, it may die.
if i were you i would start a whole new plant in some whole new soil, which will be your primary plant, and keep your current plant going in the topsoil and see where it gets.

Burger Boss · Nov 10, 2009

Dude, Now you're just talking "gibberish"! We have good, better & best nutrients available now??
My poor plants must be pretty ignorant, because they just exploded out of my restricted grow area with wild abandon! PLEASE tell me what needs to be BETTER about my plant, could it be bigger?...NO, ...Larger buds?.....I doubt it...MORE THC, tricomes ?.....This thing is like maple syrup NOW! Just waiting for a few more amber/caramel tricomes to show up.
You effen-prissy-bottled water drinking-elitists make me puke,(Oh... it will NEVER grow because YOU didn't use the MOST expensive organic "BULLSHIT" available TODAY). So please take your yuppie crap somewhere else, i'm sure there are a lot of clowns out there with big pockets willing to buy into your BS. And as long as I can get results like this, i'm not one of them.....BB :finger:

ESkinny · Nov 10, 2009

darkdestruction420 said:
wait to transplant, how long do you plan to veg b4 switching to 12/12? if you flower it when its kinda young still i dont think you'd have to at all. if you want to veg for a while wait a month and transplant it a week or two b4 you plan on switching to flower into 5 gl buckets w/holes drilled in the bottom u could.

This is day 10 since it popped out of the soil, I am planning on letting it vegetate until day 16 or 17, and then I'm going to cut the lights back to 12/12. I don't want the plant to get too big. So I won't bother transplanting it, I will let it flower in the current pot.

Thanks for you help DarkDestruction.

ESkinny · Nov 10, 2009

progeater said:
it sounds like you may need to start over to me, just because of my past experience.
i had a plant in a pot with miracle gro soil back in some woods but i was afraid of it getting stolen (niggers stole 3 of my little plants, luckily they were just given to me), so i dug up a hole and planted it with some topsoil. then it died, and there was nothing i could do about it. i figured out it was because of a dramatic pH change.

so possibly if you transplant it into miracle gro, it may die.
if i were you i would start a whole new plant in some whole new soil, which will be your primary plant, and keep your current plant going in the topsoil and see where it gets.

I will do that. I'm not going to even bother starting a new plant until I have all the necessary equipment and supplies, to grow a quality plant. But, I will let this little one keep growing, see if it makes it. The leaves got a lot bigger overnight, so the little thing must be hanging in there.

Thanks for your help man.

ESkinny · Nov 10, 2009

This is my plant that just finished off 18 hours of light on day 10. I've noticed there is yellowing on one or two spots on one of the main leaves. Should I worry about it, or does it look healthy to you guys?

Roland · Nov 10, 2009

looks STARVED for light .... support it with soil and get it more light or .. it will fall and break

ESkinny · Nov 13, 2009

My plant is on day 13. It's looks like it's moderately healthy. It's leaves and stems are a bright green. Looks a little droopy to me. Although, it has become stronger, and can now support it's own weight. I am using a 65w CFL 2700k, and a 13w CFL 6400k, I am planning on upgrading lighting, but this is what the plant has been getting thus far. How does it look?

ESkinny · Nov 14, 2009

Day 14. Looking healthy?

I'm going to keep the lights off for a full day tomorrow, and then I'm cut the lighting back to 12/12 the day after that.

2much · Nov 14, 2009

consider moving is my first thought

ESkinny · Nov 14, 2009

2much said:
consider moving is my first thought

I'm not too worried about it. There's no way they can find out. Besides his dad only visits once in a blue moon, and couldn't get into my area of the house.

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