Some advice on pk13/14 please.

coreywebster said:

Although the dude is trying to be helpful. I would ignore that advice.
We are talking about canna line nutrients which as you know and obviously he doesn't is a part a and b which is the same from veg to flower. cutting out nitrogen will mean cutting out all other nutrients including all the micro nutrients that are needed . Just using a PK booster and cal mag half way through flowering will not serve you well.

The confusion with the pk13/14 is that the bottle will say one thing and the online chart another and both can be wrong because every strain is different and will also behave different from one environment to another so there is no exact time for every situation.

Try just using 1/4 dose starting earlier and running it longer, you can always up the ratio if you feel it needs it.

Keep em green. Don't overfeed, don't starve the plants, don't flush.

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NoviceKing said:

thanks for that bud, well i have rhizotonic too dosent that conain a few micro nutes? And i still plan on using canna a and b just a few ml and use a little more calmag and pk toward the end

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tyke1973 said:

A lot of people say flushing make no difference,perhaps it does not ,but i have all ways flushed with water once the plants are nearing the end,i think it helps them finish of better.Some will not agree,Flushing water for the final week.I have also started putting the plants in total darkness for 48 hour at the end this increases the resin heads

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coreywebster said:

It contains algae and kelp and a tiny bit of nitrogen if I remember right. Probably other stuff that is so small its not listed.
It ok for early veg, or after transplant or after clones have been taken. Not needed much later but not harmful to use it either. But its expensive.

Flushing is fine for resetting coco if you have salt build up and a lock out. It doesn't remove nutrients from the plant at the end.

I don't agree with tyke on flushing at the end. But I would still take his advice on board since I know he has been growing with coco ages. He knows his canna nutrients. The other guy doesn't I assume.

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tyke1973 said:

Take my word for it bro ,you dont want to go down the flushing road the posts become a never ending argument for and against

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tyke1973 said:

A lot of really good growers on here say flushing is not needed ,and they have put evidence of this on before,I do it because it makes me feel better.Plus its hard to get out of Habits you was told you had to do for near one 15 year ,then all of a sudden last 5 or so years they say flushing is not needed.

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EpicOzGrow said:

Tbh unless its full hydroponics, in coco you domt really need a finisher, you feed nutrients and boosters until they are almost finished and then the flush of fresh water is the finisher, the plant will finish itself, a finisher product is normally designed to flush out any and all other nutrients of the same brand out of the plant

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coreywebster said:

Although the dude is trying to be helpful. I would ignore that advice.
We are talking about canna line nutrients which as you know and obviously he doesn't is a part a and b which is the same from veg to flower. cutting out nitrogen will mean cutting out all other nutrients including all the micro nutrients that are needed . Just using a PK booster and cal mag half way through flowering will not serve you well.

The confusion with the pk13/14 is that the bottle will say one thing and the online chart another and both can be wrong because every strain is different and will also behave different from one environment to another so there is no exact time for every situation.

Try just using 1/4 dose starting earlier and running it longer, you can always up the ratio if you feel it needs it.

Keep em green. Don't overfeed, don't starve the plants, don't flush.

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tyke1973 said:

This is the Results of coco and Canna Nutrients Along with Bud Bud from Advanced 18 inch long base ball bat sized colas.From Seed to bud too not clones ,with clones I think they would have been bigger .View attachment 4227022 View attachment 4227023

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tyke1973 said:

Still Flowering pictures took last night ,Start week 8.Big bud from Advanced Nutrients weeks 2/4 then back to a/b for a week,on there own then pk 13/14 for 7 days.At week 5.Only use Advanced if your not using any other early Pk spike though.All I use is
Canna a/b coco.
Big Bud Advanced.
Pk 13/14.

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tyke1973 said:

Still Flowering pictures took last night ,Start week 8.Big bud from Advanced Nutrients weeks 2/4 then back to a/b for a week,on there own then pk 13/14 for 7 days.At week 5.Only use Advanced if your not using any other early Pk spike ,though.All I use is
Canna a/b coco.
Big Bud Advanced.
Pk 13/14.
I tried there Full range and get same results from this line.My friends use the full Canna Line,but all but one has moved over to this ,after seeing they get the same end weight give or take a oz.from less,and less out lay.

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tyke1973 said:

No you all ways use a/b ,But add the Pk spikes to the water first,So say pk 13/14 Same with Big Bud,Add Pk 13/14 to the water stir ,then add Canna a/b,Big Bud to the water then a/b.The a/b is the base mix you all ways use that.untill the plants look done then just water,for 5/7 days.

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