solventless?

cbtbudz

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whats up with the new solventless wax going around? like clear concentrates? is it made w/o solvents? or just purged well? from what they say it sounds like they do use solvents, they say something like its undectable in parts per billion test. sure is pricey, haven't tried it yet.
 

hyroot

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Its actually ice wax /water hash / bubble hash. They call it solventless wax to charge more money for it. Bho prices.They used to call it co2 extraction . There benzene, proprane propellants, butane, and several other Chems I can't think of in bho. The butane will not even spray out without propane propellants.

Bho is all bad. Ice wax is good and healthier- cleaner and far smoother and tastier.
 

redzi

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The kind of Butane that comes from a cylinder that is rated high purity will leave next to no residue.... Tamisium extraction is something I would like to give a go. Never heard of one until just in the past year or so. A large Texas Instruments plant is close by so there are lots of gas companies around to choose from.
 

Twitch

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Its actually ice wax /water hash / bubble hash. They call it solventless wax to charge more money for it. Bho prices.They used to call it co2 extraction . There benzene, proprane propellants, butane, and several other Chems I can't think of in bho. The butane will not even spray out without propane propellants.

Bho is all bad. Ice wax is good and healthier- cleaner and far smoother and tastier.
so you on that band wagon too, you seem to have alot of experience with BHO can you please site your sources that say there are alot of other chems in it aswell. also yall do know you smoke more bad shit from yalls medical out door crops because of the the pesticides and shit they usually have to spray on out door stuff

sir you my fiend are a moron, do not speak about bho in this manner unless you have some hard info to bad it up

also you do know that cooking sprays use butane as its propellant right?

till then bye for now
 

Guzias1

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It's actually ice water hash.. so solvent .. not solventless.

Get some Amber shatter dry sieve up. Then I'll believe a solventless believer
 

qwizoking

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I would guess centrifugation.....check tetra labs, they use that method and make a product like that
 

Bublonichronic

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Wait I think I got it.. To a dry Ice extraction, melt the kief/hash down with water then put in the gravity spin machin, which apparently u can buy for like 200$? Now I might have to try this shit ahha
 

qwizoking

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used in industry and in laboratory settings. More-dense components of the mixture migrate away from the axis of the centrifuge, while less-dense components of the mixture migrate towards the axis. Chemists and biologists may increase the effective gravitational force on a test tube so as to more rapidly and completely cause the precipitate ("pellet") to gather on the bottom of the tube. The remaining solution is properly called the "supernate" or "supernatant liquid". The supernatant liquid is then either quickly decanted from the tube without disturbing the precipitate, or withdrawn with a Pasteur pipette.

As an example. Basically based on molecular weight
Cells for example are ground in a blender and filtered to remove debris.. The homogenised sample is placed in an ultracentrifuge and spun in low speed - nuclei settle out, forming a pellet

The supernatant (suspension containing remaining organelles) is spun at a higher speed - chloroplasts settle out
The supernatant is spun at a higher speed still -mitochondria and lysosomes settle out
The supernatant is spun at an even higher speed -ribosomes, membranes settle out The ribosomes, membranes and Golgi complexes can be separated by another technique called density gradient centrifugation.


Btw whole thing was basically from Wikipedia..I slightly edited
 

qwizoking

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Not something you can do at home...takes a while and is hard to do, takes up to 3 weeks
The product in question I'm almost certain is from tetra labs..or their method...simply from the runnier consistency and color..but just a guess

If you made it with bho or some shit... or anything else besides co2 and many runs I would be shocked
 

cbtbudz

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its not tetralabs stuff, he goes by clear concentrates but does look super similar, its the closest I seen to something like it. I saw a some labtest of this stuff didn't test super high around 70%. does look nice though.
 

qwizoking

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Oils that consistency have added terps..usually.... limonene from what I've been told for the taste and ease of smoking is used most common . Centrifugation is really popular...I should also say various other smoke able liquids are also used often like pg
 

VladFromOG

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Looks to me like its a heat evaped distillate. That is to say, it looks like what I get from my modified "steam" distillation (process details are in the solventless section of my Vapor Volumes). The only other solventless extraction I've heard of is dry or wet sift which all yields solid kief or grains. Does it smell different from bho - more earthy with a stronger herb but lighter piney scents? I find the heat extraction process captures a different ratio of secondary lipids than solvents do. Honestly though there's no way to know, and most dispensaries are liars. They love to mislabel extracts for profit or simple misdirection. Like when butane extraction became illegal in CA, suddenly they relabeled everything as co2 extract to avoid running afoul of the law. There are no regulations on solvent purity nor on the extraction processes, and anyone can claim basically anything with impunity. The dispensaries are aware of this and take advantage. It is likely (since a heat distillation of that quality would take a long time) that they are simply misrepresenting the extract. I've known dispensaries to label bho as solvent free bc the bho was well purged and no longer contaomed butane, and they didn't want to freak out the more nature centric patients. This is a problem though bc then the patients can't even ask what brand of butane was used, and most people who supply bho to dispensaries use crappy contaminated butane bc it bulks their end weight. TLDR: dispensaries lie constantly about extracts. The only way to take advantage of that medicine safely is to make it yourself using safe materials. Its easy, check the link in my sig for a full rundown
 
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