SOG growers wanted !!!

Yeah DK. I read a bit more about it. Sounds like it would be a minor tweak that I am not in a position to notice or need at this time.

Prolly not much of a difference.

GypsyBush said:

take a peek...

https://www.rollitup.org/2472369-post746.html

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mmmm.....sugary...very nice, Gypsy, hope I can make out as well.

ya I agonized over whether to go with cheaper lights, then decided to splurge on lights and ballast, and make $ compromises elsewhere. Don't know if it will make a diff, but at least I have the peace of mind of knowing I got the best lights I could afford. If I do poorly, it won't be because of my lights

Return of the Spork said:

You really should get a pot per plant.

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I wish I could afford pots, but I really can't for at least a month. I mean, I'm borrowing money from friends as it is to finish my grow room, lying to them about why I need it (I'm a big believer in "tell nobody"). I could do grow bags, but I don't want any grow stuff delivered to my home, other than the seeds, since I have no choice with them. And I can't find a retail outlet that sells them. What do you guys think about using plastic grocery bags, or even small wastebasket bags, and cutting holes in the bottom for drainage?

Thanks for the compliment...

And anything that stands up will work... grow bags included... or 2 liter soda bottles... or use your imagination..lol..

But.. at 30 cents a piece... I'd splurge and get a few pots...

IDK.. maybe i am being harsh... but really.. get some pots...lol...

GypsyBush said:

Thanks for the compliment...

And anything that stands up will work... grow bags included... or 2 liter soda bottles... or use your imagination..lol..

But.. at 30 cents a piece... I'd splurge and get a few pots...

IDK.. maybe i am being harsh... but really.. get some pots...lol...

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lol, i know how it sounds dude, but seriously, I'm broke. I just borrowed $150 from a friend to buy the materials for my electrical panel and some odds and ends. I told him it was for a side job, and I really appreciated it. He said no prob, and with all the times I've helped him he was glad to do it, Then he started to talk about what a good guy I was and here I am lying to him. I felt like such a tool. I tried to hush him up, but he just went on and on. I'm a horrible terrible bad bad bad person and I'm going to hell and I don't even believe in hell but thats where I'm going

Gypsy, I noticed you didn't hang your fan/filter...how does that work for you? What's it sound like? Is that the 66? I got the speed controller yesterday, and it really does quiet the fan a lot. It makes it hum, but with a few feet of insulated duct, I don't think anyone will hear it outside.

My filter stands up on a bar stool... with the fan above it... and then the duct...

It is LOUD as fuck... it's the 6" 440CFM with matching filter...

Did I say it's loud?..

Oh and I run the exhaust 24/7...

and I have a speed controlled 6" fan as intake... that is hooked to a thermostat...

So when the op gets hot, I pump cold air in for a min or two...

I also have a few oscilating fans pointed up and down to circulate the op..

The temps are pretty stable... 65 off 75 on.. 40 to 60% RH...

Did you go get some 2 liter bottles?

I'm gonna run my fan 24/7 too. You know I think ppl put too much stock in A/C and C02. If you run A/C, you can't exchange your air so u have to supplement the C02. But plants are like ppl, theyre designed to "sweat" to cool themselves...they just "sweat" water vapor instead of liquid water. as long as you have plenty air movement over them, and you exhaust all that water vapor, I think they'll do a great deal to cool themselves and theyre immediate surroundings. And I've read that the data concerning C02 enhancement in a closed or semiclosed enviroment vs. continuos air exchange is inconclusive. My instincts tell me the latter is the way to go. For those who use C02, this is just my opinion, please don't flame me, I'm really very sensitive

OK here's my mini me Perp Sog. Took all my lollipopping trimming and rooted them. Gave um 1 week of Veg then off to the flower pad next to their moms.
20 oz. Coco cups. Watering 1 cup of Mix per day. 5.8 PH mixed exactly like my hydro mix.Everythings the same in coco.
Alot more work than im really comfortable with considering how lazy i actually am. But its gonna turn out to be a great experiment either way.
Very managable little shits about 3 ft tall max and nothing but Kola's.
Reccomend for people with head room restrictions. I can see how this could be easily thought out a little better than mine like with a drip system or something and made to work real nice for someone.

WeedBaron Signing off.

Looking great OTDL...I am getting impatient with my grow...starting from seed is kilin me when I see veryone here with their clones! I would very much appreciate it if someone could take a look at my pics in my journal nd comment on the size of the plants at 3 weeks from germ. Thanks!

So, I have read all kinds of different recommended PHs for the ebb and flow...many recommend from 5.2 to 5.8, others 5.4 to 6.2 and some 5.6 to 6.2....what do you guys run your reservoirs at?

i think it ultimately depends on your medium and what your plants like


as long as mine doesnt go over 6.0 and under 5.0 im good

however, i do try to target 5.6-5.8

I start with them at 5.4ish and a couple days later they break 6....I have pretty damn small reservoirs though. Anything higher starts to show on mine.

Hey dudes.

Just wanted to show off my first ebb and flow harvest and say thanks to everyone for the advice that has gotten me to this point.

a big old pile of fine ass weed.


Unfortunately i kinda shat the bed on clones, so there is a gap in my system for about a week. Kinda lame, but now i know i need to start clones earlier.

With any luck i'll never have to buy another bag.

Anyhow thats my story.

Thanks again folks.

sweet, zues, + + +rep on the successful harvest...so how much was it? and can we get some details on your grow for comparison, like how many watts, square footage, etc.?

Captn said:

sweet, zues, + + +rep on the successful harvest...so how much was it? and can we get some details on your grow for comparison, like how many watts, square footage, etc.?

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Thanks.
2x4 table one of two under a 1000w hps.
Yield is in around 200 grams.
So my Gram to watt ratio is only 0.4, but its my first round so i'd imagine I can bring that up a little bit in the future with some bigger stronger clones.

Ummm... I guess check the journal in my sig for all the dirty details.

Congratulations man thats some good looking bud too man. Good job

Has anyone heard of this ... ICE BOX Water-Cooled Heat Exchanger ???