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my ass is hurt from the tongue lashing gypsy just laid on me.

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bugsrnme said:

my ass is hurt from the tongue lashing gypsy just laid on me.

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That is just WRONG!!!!

kick ass show sog

As always.... Love your shit... if you could only get those harvest going like you can build setups.... LOL.. j/k bro... I know its comin!

Where are you guys finding these 27gal tough boxes. I have checked home depot and lowes and no one has heard of them. I tried searching online and couldn't find them either. Can anyone direct me to a place online I can buy these reserviors. thanks

Mr.Karma said:

Where are you guys finding these 27gal tough boxes. I have checked home depot and lowes and no one has heard of them. I tried searching online and couldn't find them either. Can anyone direct me to a place online I can buy these reserviors. thanks

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here or here

the girls been in flowering transition the past three days
i gave them a transition soup with half grow and half bloom base
a day after i balanced to 2.9 EC and pH to 5.8 then added root exel

i just noticed EC went up to 3.3
and pH is up to 6.1 which I'm not to concerned about
i'm wondering if the more water uptake is part of the transition phase?
or i should be concerned at this point?

i think so because mine drink gallons of water in a day..its seems the harder i push the nutes up the more water they drink because they need to (transpier)< spelling. more..

here they are

SOG, just wait until they start to really bloom. They will drink and drink and drink some more. Especially under those 1k's.

anything over 3 EC would freak me out but idk?

i think any botany book would say thats way too high, but im not very familiar with anything other than coco and soiless medium grows.

jberry said:

anything over 3 EC would freak me out but idk?

i think any botany book would say thats way too high,

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Sup jb
I'm right there with ya bra, close to freaking out,
i'm just not sure why they did this, they started at 2.9 EC/1450ppm
i toke the measures a day after i balanced it to be sure it already drifted
water temps are on the money 68 during day cycle and drop to 64 at night time
maybe its evaporating from the 4k heat,
diluting the water but not the nutes in them
does that even make sense?

yea that sounds right to me, since your PH went up and not down... arent you suppose to top off with R/O water in this case?
- like i said i/m a little out of my usual department when i come here.

jberry said:

yea that sounds right to me, since your PH went up and not down... arent you suppose to top off with R/O water in this case?
- like i said i/m a little out of my usual department when i come here.

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its all good bra, combined knowledge
the medium differences are negligible
we are still discussing same plant
id say you should see the evaporation with any medium under 4k

hmm, that gets me thinking now
condensation is probably higher then normal since i keep my res constant 68 during the light cycle with my CoolCube's
going to top off with RO

it looks like they just toke the water, added 2 gallons to get back to where it started with the bigger site
on the smaller plant res, i only added 1/2 a gallon to match

i have one question, how do i tell if its deficiency or an overkill
i believe I'm looking on some small rust spots on few fan leaves,
which means its probably a calcium deficiency or access?
any guidelines folks, to tell between an overkill to a deficiency?

Calcium Deficiency:
Young leaves are affected first and become small and distorted or chlorotic with irregular margins, spotting or necrotic areas. Bud development is inhibited, blossom end rot and internal decay may also occur and root may be under developed or die back. Deficiency will cause leaf tip die-back, leaf tip curl and marginal necrosis and chlorosis primarily in younger leaves. Symptoms: young leaves develop chlorosis and distortion such as crinkling, dwarfing, developing a strap-like shape, shoots stop growing and thicken.

Calcium Toxicity:
Difficult to distinguish visually.
May precipitate with sulfur in solution and cause clouding or residue in tank.
Excess calcium may produce deficiencies in magnesium and potassium.

in my experience, if it is a overdose than mag will usually get locked out of some of the more sensitive plants.

if u determine that is a deficiency, than you better lower your base nutes if you want to add more calcium or else your ppm will skyrocket into death zone.

cutting edge solutions makes high quality cal. and mag. in individual bottles which is kinda nice since not every situation calls for both, and they dont have the nitrogen in them like cal/mag products do, which is nice for us people who like to cut the nitrogen out of the feedings for the end of the flowering cycle.... they are called plant amped and and mag amped if anyone is interested.
thats all i got lol.

here are some pics
anyone can help identify this deficiency

It almost looks like they had nutrients sprayed directly on the leaves causing burn. I noticed something similar early into my flowering, turns out one of the net pots was tilted from the weight of the plant and when the sprayers turned on, alittle shot up and hit the leaves. Little gold spots where the nutrient rich water hit the leaves, then the 600w burned em in.

Make sure you got no water escaping the tubes. Other than that, I'm not sure what it is.

It kinda look's like a cal/mag def.
I did dwc for a while and notice if I used my big dehumidifier the water needed filling more often.
I put a slightly smaller one in and it seemed to slow down.
Just a couple thought's.
They look great even with the spot's.