SOG Experiment in a micro 2x2 tent - 2 trays - 16 plants

Okay, so I started this new journal for my S.O.G. grow.

I'm currently in week 4 of a scrOG grow, but I'm already prepping plants and clones for my next grow by keeping them under the canopy + on my dresser.

I'm using a 140W Spectrum King LED Closet Case.

Humidity stays around 55-65% but there is always constant air movement. No signs of powdery mildew or mold.

Here's what I plan to do:

• I'm going to take the screen off my scrOG frame, and use just the frame to hold up two bins, each 1'x2'.
• They will sit right beside each other and drain into a water reservoir that will rest below them.
• The bin/trays will need to be deep enough to securely hold the plants.
• The bin/trays will need grooves on the bottom to allow the pots to drain properly.
• I will drill a hole on the bottom of each bin/tray for easy drainage.
• Each bin/tray will be FILLED with plants. If I can fit a solo cup between some of the plants to fill space even more I will, but I doubt I'll have the space for more than 16 plants in total.
• The plants will be flipped at 12" and after they have each been topped.
• The bins will allow me to easily take out the plants. I can then use this to my advantage and rotate the plants on a weekly basis to utilize light/space.
• Every month I will chop down 1 bin/tray worth of plants and start a new batch in order to start a monthly perpetual grow. Of course I will allow more time for strains that need it.
• Run a variety of 'grow medium' experiments. So far I have the following being prepped:

1. (4) Sour Strawberries in hempy 2-liters. Transplanted from coco solo cups. I just pulled them out of the solo cups and transplanted with perlite. 7 Were given to me for $50.
2. (2) Goji Berry Seedlings (Moxie Seeds) already around 8" and have been topped. They are both girls. Growing in solo cups with a mixture of soil and coco. I'm planning on transplanting into 2-liter coke bottles filled with coco and soil.
3. (1) GSC Auto seedling (American Fast Buds) in a solo cup with 80% soil and 20% coco. Maybe 4" tall.
4. (1) GG#4 Auto seedling (American Fast Buds) in a 1 gallon smart pot filled with 30% coco, 30% hydroton pebbles, and 40% soil.
5. (1) Goji Reserve Seedling in a 1 gallon smart pot filled with the 30/30/40
6. (1) Pyramid Seed Tutankhamon Feminized Seedling in a 1 gallon with the 30/30/40

I may have gotten a little over-excited about my S.O.G. and started too many plants in various mediums haha. Here's my current game plan:

Start flipping 8 of them under the SCROG canopy once my girls hit week 5 of flower. By the time the 8 start stretching my canopy will be less full as I will gradually be pulling off leafs. Once the 8 hit week 4 or 5 of flower, my scrog will have been taken down and those 2 girls chopped down. I'll then move those 8 into their bin/tray and fill up another tray with 8 new ones.

Sure, my first batch my not yield a lot due to them starting under a canopy and getting less light, but I got to do 'something' about these plants that are about ready, and I want to get into the groove of perpetually growing.

Please let me know if you have any suggestions, recommendations, or comments about what i'm doing. Think i'm crazy for attempting so many different mediums? Let me know!

Cheers,

- Zack

Some pictures and a visual representation of what I plan on doing

More pictures. Also, I forgot I had these 3 little clones in mostly soil. Cuttings from my scrOG.

Pics from tonight:

Is that ducting hose your exhaust? If so, have you considered moving it up top, to vent the hottest air 1st?

Good luck bro is all I can say. 16 girls in a 2x2 isn't really feasible. Even doing 12/12 from the start you'll still have crowding issues. Maybe try 4 with LST and do the perpetual with that many plants if you know they're guaranteed females.
For comparison 16 plants grown to 12" height could easily fill a 3x3 and possibly a 4x4 with full canopy by the end of stretch and onset of full flower. Especially if there's ample light for them to draw from.
Not saying it can't be done, and kudos if you try it and pull some good results from it. I had a 6.5' cube tent and even with 17 plants vegged to about 18"-22", I had crowding issues by the end.

ColoradoCheshire said:

Good luck bro is all I can say. 16 girls in a 2x2 isn't really feasible. Even doing 12/12 from the start you'll still have crowding issues. Maybe try 4 with LST and do the perpetual with that many plants if you know they're guaranteed females.
For comparison 16 plants grown to 12" height could easily fill a 3x3 and possibly a 4x4 with full canopy by the end of stretch and onset of full flower. Especially if there's ample light for them to draw from.
Not saying it can't be done, and kudos if you try it and pull some good results from it. I had a 6.5' cube tent and even with 17 plants vegged to about 18"-22", I had crowding issues by the end.

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Thanks for the advice and your opinion on the matter. I also hear that it will be tricky to run different strains at once.

I'll have a total of 4 different strains in this SOG so that may be tricky. Some might require a different feeding or more light, time, etc.

The problem I have now is that I have too many plants to do only 4 and I don't want to toss them.

- I have 7 Sour Strawberries, 2 Goji Reserves, 1 GSC Auto, 1 GG Auto, 1 Random Auto, and I have 3 clones I took from my Private Reserve strain. All of these are being prepped for the SOG. All of the strawberries and one of the Goji Reserves is under the canopy atm being flipped. They are a few days in and around 12" already. One is actually 16" so I've been cutting the top off.

Any advice?

kristoffolese said:

Is that ducting hose your exhaust? If so, have you considered moving it up top, to vent the hottest air 1st?

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I thought about doing that but then I was worried it would all get vented OUT of the tent before air made it on the plants due to the carbon filter being up there. I don't have an intake. Just a 200cfm fan connected to my carbon filter pulling air out (and in - due to suction)

ColoradoCheshire said:

Good luck bro is all I can say. 16 girls in a 2x2 isn't really feasible. Even doing 12/12 from the start you'll still have crowding issues. Maybe try 4 with LST and do the perpetual with that many plants if you know they're guaranteed females.
For comparison 16 plants grown to 12" height could easily fill a 3x3 and possibly a 4x4 with full canopy by the end of stretch and onset of full flower. Especially if there's ample light for them to draw from.
Not saying it can't be done, and kudos if you try it and pull some good results from it. I had a 6.5' cube tent and even with 17 plants vegged to about 18"-22", I had crowding issues by the end.

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Also, I forgot to mention that I couldn't actually find two bins that were 1x2', so opted out for a 22'x20' bin instead that can only fit 12 plants. Do you think this would be more manageable?

12 little lollipops would be your best route. The only time different strains are tough is when you have sativa and indica leaners. If you have hybrids or mostly indicas it's fine. It's when you have sativa leaners that climb that it stinks. I've got 9 or ten different strains running now, but mostly indicas. As long as you give them decent nute amounts you shouldn't worry about weird feedings.

Zackk said:

Also, I forgot to mention that I couldn't actually find two bins that were 1x2', so opted out for a 22'x20' bin instead that can only fit 12 plants. Do you think this would be more manageable?

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To give you an idea, here's 6 clones in 1gal fabric pots, flipped 1 week after transplanting them from party cups. Tent is 2x2x4'.

Added note. Scrogs are good for up to 4 plants, any more and you won't know who's who. For what you're trying a lollipop sog makes more sense. You'll have 12 colas so less trimming end game. But it's all up to your personal preference and what you think you can achieve with your available space. Luckily I have a whole spare room for growing so I can make up what I want for dimensions.

Zackk said:

I thought about doing that but then I was worried it would all get vented OUT of the tent before air made it on the plants due to the carbon filter being up there. I don't have an intake. Just a 200cfm fan connected to my carbon filter pulling air out (and in - due to suction)

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Putting up top will not affect incoming air... every ft3 of air going out, passively pulls in ft3 of air replacing it, regardless of placement. If youre using co2, you especially dont want to vent down low, as co2 sinks/is heavier than reg air. And in addition to venting heat - shortening your ducting, making it a straight shot between the exhaust fan and your carbon filter, will increase how much air your exhaust is displacing. Every curve in the ducting reduces airflow a surprising amount. Just some things to consider... but what matters most is how your setup works for YOU. Have a blessed day!

GroErr said:

To give you an idea, here's 6 clones in 1gal fabric pots, flipped 1 week after transplanting them from party cups. Tent is 2x2x4'.

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Damn man you inspire me. Kudos to you my friend.

ColoradoCheshire said:

Good luck bro is all I can say. 16 girls in a 2x2 isn't really feasible. Even doing 12/12 from the start you'll still have crowding issues. Maybe try 4 with LST and do the perpetual with that many plants if you know they're guaranteed females.
For comparison 16 plants grown to 12" height could easily fill a 3x3 and possibly a 4x4 with full canopy by the end of stretch and onset of full flower. Especially if there's ample light for them to draw from.
Not saying it can't be done, and kudos if you try it and pull some good results from it. I had a 6.5' cube tent and even with 17 plants vegged to about 18"-22", I had crowding issues by the end.

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I disagree... and have personally proven that statement wrong. You can use 6"x6" spacing & run 16 plants in a SOG grow. I would be certain of your strain 1st, though. Strains that like to produce a single, large cola are ideal. Popcorn bud strains are NOT. Just be sure you dont veg them more than a couple weeks. Rig up a yeast & sugar co2 sytem if u cant afford the tank/gas/regulator & they will fly. The single cola style grow blasts the buds directly - little to no pruning required, because they dont branch, so the colas are wide open sticks growing straight up. This was the rage before scrog came along

Zackk said:

Thanks for the advice and your opinion on the matter. I also hear that it will be tricky to run different strains at once.

I'll have a total of 4 different strains in this SOG so that may be tricky. Some might require a different feeding or more light, time, etc.

The problem I have now is that I have too many plants to do only 4 and I don't want to toss them.

- I have 7 Sour Strawberries, 2 Goji Reserves, 1 GSC Auto, 1 GG Auto, 1 Random Auto, and I have 3 clones I took from my Private Reserve strain. All of these are being prepped for the SOG. All of the strawberries and one of the Goji Reserves is under the canopy atm being flipped. They are a few days in and around 12" already. One is actually 16" so I've been cutting the top off.

Any advice?

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Autos arent really suited to SOG, imo. Best sog results require equally sized clones of same or similar strain

kristoffolese said:

Putting up top will not affect incoming air... every ft3 of air going out, passively pulls in ft3 of air replacing it, regardless of placement. If youre using co2, you especially dont want to vent down low, as co2 sinks/is heavier than reg air. And in addition to venting heat - shortening your ducting, making it a straight shot between the exhaust fan and your carbon filter, will increase how much air your exhaust is displacing. Every curve in the ducting reduces airflow a surprising amount. Just some things to consider... but what matters most is how your setup works for YOU. Have a blessed day!

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If possible, I recommend cutting a square out of a bottom corner and taping a filter or fine meah screen. Then fresh air will passively enter the grow from the bottom and be sucked out through the top. Creates excellent circulation. Just remember - your finished plant will be no better than the weakest link in your grow's "Light-nutrients-air/environment" chain Good luck!

needsomebeans said:

Damn man you inspire me. Kudos to you my friend.

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Cheers and thanks, that was a fun grow, some extra clones in my breeding tent

Dang. Those are big!
So I'm going to grow what I have, but if it becomes too crowded i'll just pull a plant or two and use them for cuttings.
I'm hoping ai can get away with more since i'm using mostly 2 gallon hempies.

Thanks for all the advice everyone.

So far my 2 girls in my SOG are doing great. Here are some pics.

I also have an idea for my next next grow.
- After I try out a SOG I'm thinking about growing in a 10 gallon no-till SCROG style. I love the idea of only having to water and reusing my soil.

Zackk said:

Dang. Those are big!
So I'm going to grow what I have, but if it becomes too crowded i'll just pull a plant or two and use them for cuttings.
I'm hoping ai can get away with more since i'm using mostly 2 gallon hempies.

Thanks for all the advice everyone.

So far my 2 girls in my SOG are doing great. Here are some pics.

I also have an idea for my next next grow.
- After I try out a SOG I'm thinking about growing in a 10 gallon no-till SCROG style. I love the idea of only having to water and reusing my soil.

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I meant 2 liter hempies**