Soft Secrets - Cannabis Law

Ok I was just reading this article which I am sure you will all find interesting.

http://cannazine.co.uk/cannabis-news/europe/cannabis-law-there-is-something-rotten-in-the-state-of-holland.html

1 piece I really thought I needed to quote though was this -

"in that recreational marihuana-users in Holland do not come into contact with criminal elements for their supply. Because of this they are under less risk of coming into contact with harder drugs."

I am sadly going to admit that I strongly agree with this quote and was curious on everyone elses views? obviously say for an example someone got offered a pill or a line of coke its not like the person offering is going to ram it down your throat or shove it up your nose if you say no..... so its 50/50 when looking for ganja you will discover other harder drugs but then its your choice if you want to use them drugs or not!


- Skinz

And your point is..? VV

I think the point is by making marijuana illegal you open up the opportunity for people to come in contact with worse drugs, drug dealers can get a lot more for coke than they can for weed

smppro said:

I think the point is by making marijuana illegal you open up the opportunity for people to come in contact with worse drugs, drug dealers can get a lot more for coke than they can for weed

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so if it was legal there's a less chance of coming into contact with harder drug dealers

speaking of legal and not legal in the world of bud, california is going through some interesting times right now. Check out California vs. Kelly. Since the Ca. State legislature added the limits to how much medical marijuana a patient can possess, the limits got thrown out of a recent case because they were not voted on by the people in the original bill.. What this could essentially mean is NO MORE LIMITS to how much you can have/grow. I know it probably wont stick, but its going to the state supreme court right now, and who knows? We may actually get lucky and have something go our way for once. If you look at the original Bill that was voted on and passed, there is NOTHING About limits in there, the 6 mature, 12 veggin plants was addedd much later, after the fact, and it is still the recommended amount that almost gaurantees safety from prosecution. Anyway, something to watch if you are interested...

What right does the goverment have to determine what drugs are good and what drugs are bad. Liberals see this as an issue of decrimilizing a drug that was wrongly criminalized, give the gov't a mulligan. Libertarians question the right of the goverment not only to tell me what drugs are bad, but also what is permissable. In a free society like ours a law abiding and tax paying citizen should be able to do whatever they want, Coke/smack/heroin/weed whatever. Its all drugs and I have a huge problem choosing my drugs by what the goverment says is acceptable.

Sooo....I guess what you are trying to say is that if cannibus were legal the gateway to these other drugs wouldn't exist?? That is interesting. VV

I agree with that. I have often had to buy from scary meth using types and it's not fun, and they often have a complete array of drugs. Sometimes it can be hard to say no to other things when you can't find weed too, like when you're all stressed and just want to chill out. So if there were a legal reliable supply away from harder drugs many would be safer and better off.

Think about all those people that sniff paint or glue or whatever else. Huffers I think they're called. If those folks had easy access to weed they'd be so much better off and might choose weed over those other things that ruin their bodies and brains.

Also jail/prison is a good way to create harder criminals from anyone. Bust people for stupid stuff like this and you make their life much harder even if they don't end up in prison. You have convictions that will limit your future employment, plus pee tests, and people will do whatever they have to do to make a living and feed their families so the outcome is often not good.

What could have been a good taxpaying friendly happy honest citizen can end up doing things he never would have normally.

The negative effects of the war on drugs are far reaching and way way worse than the problems drugs or addiction alone cause. It supports crime, criminals, creates criminals, takes peoples ability to work or even vote away, supports gangs and organized crime, and leads to more violent and dangerous cities. It's the war on drugs that has made the USA one of the worst places to live in terms of crime. The more they fight the war, the worse it gets. It's EXACTLY like what prohibition on alcohol did years ago. Crime went up dramatically and lead to lots of death and violence and was clearly visibly worse than having it legal.

Great post Oregon, you have laid out many of the reasons weed should be legalized. When Prohibition of alcohol was first implemented crime actually went down for a short period of time, it seemed like it was working. That didn't last, as you pointed out. LEAP makes the argument that drug money is what funds the terrorist, if you ended the war on drugs, you would remove the money pipeline they have now. VV

OregonMeds said:

I agree with that. I have often had to buy from scary meth using types and it's not fun, and they often have a complete array of drugs. Sometimes it can be hard to say no to other things when you can't find weed too, like when you're all stressed and just want to chill out. So if there were a legal reliable supply away from harder drugs many would be safer and better off.

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Been there plenty of times when its been dry round here and had to buy other "stuff" but it usually works out a lot more expensive! lol but yeah if there was a permanent supply by the government in secure places to be able to buy and smoke it comfortably from like a coffee shop then we wouldn't have these problems of not being able to get weed and being offered another array of drugs which could lead to a harder addiction maybe eventually!




- Skinz

this thread is 5 minutes of my life I will never be able to get back

im going to go cut my wrists now.

Quite interesting , although quite a cliche article now. In New Zealand notably, there are many pro legalization groups, each with all the same points as to why it should be legalized. It's a pretty radical change, and chances of it happening are slim to non-existent (or so it seems in New Zealand at least). The criminal element is a biggie, but let's be realistic, there's still hundreds of other drugs people are going to seek, what's the government supposed to do? Legalize them aswell?

GrowTech said:

this thread is 5 minutes of my life I will never be able to get back

im going to go cut my wrists now.

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have fun and please dont forget its down the road not across a lot of people end up making this mistake and surviving! Oh nd put a towel down!!!

UshUsh said:

Quite interesting , although quite a cliche article now. In New Zealand notably, there are many pro legalization groups, each with all the same points as to why it should be legalized. It's a pretty radical change, and chances of it happening are slim to non-existent (or so it seems in New Zealand at least). The criminal element is a biggie, but let's be realistic, there's still hundreds of other drugs people are going to seek, what's the government supposed to do? Legalize them aswell?

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but cannabis is only a soft drug its not like your gonna go rob an old woman for a £20 bag of weed

In Oz,Hydro is killing too many younger people,many through psychosis and suicide.Chemicaly enhanced weed kills,full stop!!,I'll still grow it in dirt with organic ferts.

Soft Secrets - Cannabis... 09-01-2008 10:51 AM you're a retard.


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