So you think you deserve $15/hr. at Mc-Donald's? Meet your replacement.

schuylaar said:

we had driveways at all of our homes..i do remember that.

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You didn't build that. I doubt if you've ever built anything, just tear all that's good down.

BTW, I've always had a driveway. Had to put in a well, septic, deer fence too. What does that have to do with your socialist thoughts? You been Buckin' around here for far too long. Getting as goofy and self absorbed as he is.

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There aren't enough jobs to provide everyone with a living. That's why desperate single mothers and parolees flip burgers.

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You forgot to include a big "thank you Obama".

Actually there are jobs that pay way more than a "livable wage", but they have a prerequisite that most progressives on this board don't like, "skill".

Pad likes to quote a study that enumerates the gains of the people in the top 1% vs the rest. But he always manages to leave out an important point in that study; the people making big gains in the top 3,5 through 10 percent are people with "skills" working for wages vs the rentier class of years past.

"Develop a worth while skill that people want to pay you for and you'll do fine". Progs would be much more successful if they pushed what most people with common sense already know and stopped patronizing those on the bottom.

abandonconflict said:

There aren't enough jobs to provide everyone with a living. That's why desperate single mothers and parolees flip burgers.

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And what's wrong with flipping burgers? You and yours too fuckin' lazy and high and mighty to stoop to such a "demeaning" job? What's this "desperate" shit? You do what you have to do, if you have any pride and character.

During my younger days I wasn't the snot nosed kid like you and your friends who think they're entitled to a certain wage. As a teen I sold popcorn and peanuts at high school football games, picked cotton in south Texas heat along side blacks and Mexican for $.50 a big cotton bag that trailed behind you as you picked......bussed tables in a restaurant for $.60/hr., split shift, 10 hours a day, 6 days a week.

You losers don't have the cajones to do that kind of work. I was happy too, and proud for not taking a handout. I had money to chase pussy and the pussy was happy they had a "man" with some money.

UB

Uncle Ben said:

You losers don't have the cajones to do that kind of work.

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I was a parachute infantryman. Afghanistan 2002-2003 and Iraq 2003-2004. I guess that doesn't take any balls.

By the way, Texas is a shit hole, please fucking secede already.

god1 said:

You forgot to include a big "thank you Obama".

Actually there are jobs that pay way more than a "livable wage", but they have a prerequisite that most progressives on this board don't like, "skill".

Pad likes to quote a study that enumerates the gains of the people in the top 1% vs the rest. But he always manages to leave out an important point in that study; the people making big gains in the top 3,5 through 10 percent are people with "skills" working for wages vs the rentier class of years past.

"Develop a worth while skill that people want to pay you for and you'll do fine". Progs would be much more successful if they pushed what most people with common sense already know and stopped patronizing those on the bottom.

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Watching fox news isn't a skill. You might think you're a smart feller. But you're coming off as a fart smeller.

Thanks Obama!

abandonconflict said:

I was a parachute infantryman. Afghanistan 2002-2003 and Iraq 2003-2004. I guess that doesn't take any balls.

By the way, Texas is a shit hole, please fucking secede already.

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If true, I assume you did it for the money and benefits. Back then it was a different war and may not have taken any balls at all, just the shear rush of parachuting with the protection of other troops and equipment. Where did you parachute into, the Bazaary bazaar downtown Baghdad for a cup of Turkish coffee?

You never picked cotton and dodged the question with a deflection. What's wrong with flipping burgers? You too good for that kinda work?

god1 said:

You forgot to include a big "thank you Obama".

Actually there are jobs that pay way more than a "livable wage", but they have a prerequisite that most progressives on this board don't like, "skill".

Pad likes to quote a study that enumerates the gains of the people in the top 1% vs the rest. But he always manages to leave out an important point in that study; the people making big gains in the top 3,5 through 10 percent are people with "skills" working for wages vs the rentier class of years past.

"Develop a worth while skill that people want to pay you for and you'll do fine". Progs would be much more successful if they pushed what most people with common sense already know and stopped patronizing those on the bottom.

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i have quite a bit of skill and will be making $10.50, versus the $100k, 5 years ago..

abandonconflict said:

I was a parachute infantryman. Afghanistan 2002-2003 and Iraq 2003-2004. I guess that doesn't take any balls.

By the way, Texas is a shit hole, please fucking secede already.

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+rep

At any rate, for the record, I'd rate the act of pedophilia pretty fucking low, like taking someone's money without their consent.



Lmao thats almost sig worthy.


And i personally love tx, beautiful state, great people, food and economy

I was just talking about this chain calles bucees yesterday. I think technically its a gas station, but its more like a small walmart. The biggest gas station in the world i think it said was 68,000 sqft at the new braunfels location. With some 32 stores here in tx.

I love this store. Cintas voted it having the best restroom in america. On avg regular employees are there 2 years. The chain is exploding.
Why?
Regular employees can start at 14.50, cashiers deli maintenance etc
They have an employee making 14.50 and his sole job is to make sure either the male or female restroom is clean. Another to make sure the coffee station is clean and flavored creamers filled. Etc
They are paying a shit ton for nothing and in return have some of the happiest employees and customers ive ever seen. Quality cant be beat.

Nobody wants to interact with a machine. This is tx, shit this is the south. We need that southern hospitality. Heb didnt go to computer cashiers for a reason, same one walmart only has a little square of em..

The minumum wage debate is ridiculous to me. Ive seen the benefits with bucees and the negative impact with places like taco bell. Taco bell has the opposite mindset, employees on avg stay 4 months, make $8/hr with an unreliable schedule. Food is prepared sloppily, half the time you feel it the next day cause of improper handling, bathrooms are shit. No customer service. Etc

Increasing pay benefits the company, that doesnt mean its intended to be a "living wage" whatever that nonsense is. Having the minumum raised by law wouldnt help the situation very much. Its a mindset the company has that then follows to the employee.

living wages are the basic necessities of food, shelter..minimum 40 hours is $290/week..hard to pay rent and eat on that an i'm talking about those 2 items only..place to sleep and food..nothing else.

$14.50 in texas is amazing!

schuylaar said:

living wages are the basic necessities of food, shelter..minimum 40 hours is $290/week..hard to pay rent and eat on that an i'm talking about those 2 items only..place to sleep and food..nothing else.

$14.50 in texas is amazing!

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Most cab drivers in Mexico hold down 2-4 jobs. If a U.S. City garbage collector finishes his route at 12:00 noon, he goes home with a full 8 hours pay. Many go on to another job.

You do what you have to do, you accept what you want to accept.

New Braunfels used to be a great place. It's a rat race like all cities that have I35 cutting thru it. Charm is gone. I almost put in a business at Gruene and would have if not for a divorce.

Most of the posters in this thread have failed to address the OPs primary point.
An escalating minimum wage will accelerate the advent of dire consequences to low skilled workers.
Automation will be implemented when the human workers mandated minimum wage exceeds the cost of their replacement with robots.
A higher minimum wage certainly will accelerate this process.
How does this help the unskilled minimum wage types?

Better obtain some marketable skills pronto.

qwizoking said:

And i personally love tx, beautiful state, great people, food and economy

I was just talking about this chain calles bucees yesterday. I think technically its a gas station, but its more like a small walmart. The biggest gas station in the world i think it said was 68,000 sqft at the new braunfels location. With some 32 stores here in tx.

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Love's is like that too, they're huge. You can eat off the bathroom floors. That kind of approach brings in customers.

HEB grocery chain is a class act too. They are such a fine tuned machine they're driving other grocery chains out of business. One town I lived in had 4 grocers, nationwide like Albertsons, Krogers, etc. HEB came in with a couple of stores and drove them to their knees. The HEB branded items are tops, whether it's toilet paper, can of peas, their own smoked brisket, coffee...doesn't matter. It's priced low and is of the highest quality. Walmart sucks by comparison.

Another HUGE success story is a wine and liquor store, also family owned and operated - Spec's. Want a selection from 20,000 wines, cigars, cheeses from Norway and all over, cheap bottle of tequila or a $12,000 bottle of brandy behind locked secure doors for a friend - Spec's has it. Every month they are expanding somewhere. One cool thing is they protect and WILL NOT go into a small city that still has mom and pop liquor stores. They were there in those shoes at one time and protect their own kind. http://www.specsonline.com/cgi-bin/showpage?pageid=main

Uncle Ben said:

Love's is like that too, they're huge. You can eat of the bathroom floors. That kind of approach brings in customers.

HEB grocery chain is a class too. They are such a fine tuned machine their driving other grocery chains out of business. One town I lived in had 4 grocers, nationwide like Albertsons, Krogers, etc. HEB came in with a couple of stores and drove them to their knees. The HEB branded items are tops, whether it's toilet paper, can of peas, their own smoked brisket, coffee...doesn't matter. It's priced low and is of the highest quality. Walmart sucks by comparison.

Another HUGE success story is a wine and liquor store, also family owned and operated - Spec's. Want a selection from 20,000 wines, cigars, cheeses from Norway and all over, cheap bottle of tequila or a $12,000 bottle of brandy behind locked secure doors for a friend - Spec's has it. Every month they are expanding somewhere. One cool thing is they protect and WILL NOT go into a small city that still has mom and pop liquor stores. They were there in those shoes at one time and protect their own kind. http://www.specsonline.com/cgi-bin/showpage?pageid=main

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*off
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What or who is HEB grocery?

Contrary to ACs bitter and unfounded specious assertions, TX is a very nice state. The economy is most certainly thriving and dynamic.
I recently spent many months in TX, my only complaint is that south TX gets too hot in the summer and too cold in the winter.

HEBs is a great grocery store, however I find Publix to be slightly better overall.
I am glad to be back in South Florida, where the summer livin' is less heat intense!!

I'd LOVE to see HEB move into California. They'd clean your clocks with their high quality, excellent service, low pricing and their own branded commodities. https://www.heb.com/ They started in Corpus Christi, expanded and moved their headquarters to San Antonio.

I lived in S. Texas, never again. It's an oven year around especially along the coast. Hill Country is paradise though. We have 4 seasons and a short summer. Great food, craft beer, tons of wines many taking international double gold awards, great music.....

Uncle Ben said:

I lived in S. Texas, never again. It's an oven year around especially along the coast. Hill Country is paradise though. We have 4 seasons and a short summer. Great food, craft beer, tons of wines many taking international double gold awards, great music.....

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The Hill Country is nice, but still gets way too cold for me in the winter, even colder then where I was... I do not do well with temps under 40.
I was in Katy this past December and it was even colder up in them hills. BRRRRR! Went running back to SoFla in January, could not take the cold anymore!
BTW, I had a chance to visit the Katy based No Label brewery when I was in Katy...wow, great beer and great people, good times.

Wavels said:

Most of the posters in this thread have failed to address the OPs primary point.
An escalating minimum wage will accelerate the advent of dire consequences to low skilled workers.
Automation will be implemented when the human workers mandated minimum wage exceeds the cost of their replacement with robots.
A higher minimum wage certainly will accelerate this process.
How does this help the unskilled minimum wage types?

Better obtain some marketable skills pronto.

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guess you didn't read my post about the airport.

we will always require humans.

schuylaar said:

been to the airport recently? they have a shitload of kiosks that you must 'check-in' with for ticket..then you go to the counter where a 'human' re-does the whole fucking thing because your bags must be weighed etc.

i have not once gotten a boarding pass from a kiosk that the human didn't re-print and tear up the kiosk version once my bags were checked.

not once.

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schuylaar said:

guess you didn't read my post about the airport.

we will always require humans.

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Sure I read your post regarding kiosks, however if the airlines did not consider these machines to be somehow cost effective, they would be eliminated.

Humans with certain skills will always be needed, even some humans without skills... just a lot less of them than are currently needed.