So Close to the End but am Worried About my Plants..Need Help First Grow!!!!

Hey RUI ill get right into it for the past week or so alot of leaves on my plant are yellowing and turning brown and dying being this is my first grow i am not sure if thats natural this early in flowering my information and setup is as follows...

Plants: Skywalker OG (9 plants)

Stage: Flowering - They are currently in the 5th week of flowering with alot of fan leaves turning yellow with brown spots and dying (i know over time they should yellow and die off but it seems to be majority of my leaves and early in the flowering for that not sure tho)

Medium: Fox Farm Soil - 5 Gallon buckets I recently just checked the soil PH runoff and all the plants the PH runoff was around 6.0-7.0 (that is by eye and color i do not have a digital meter)

Nutrients: General Organics- I am at 1/2 strength nutrients and am using nutrient every other watering..(plain water, nutrient water, plain water) Im also using Kool Bloom at like 1/8th the strength recommended less than 1.25ml per Gallon of distilled water

Temps: The temperature is always around 72%-78% depending on how hot it is outside with a RH of 35-50%... and the temperature at night is around 65%-68% with RH at 35-45%


Setup:
600w Lumatek HPS bulb, 334 cfm Can Fan Inline, 12 Inch Oscillating Fan, 4x4 Tent.

I also have two questions

1) On some of my plants like 2-3 alot of the white hairs are turning red but still have a good amount of white hairs what could be the cause of this or is this natural sometimes?.. (i have read somewhere that giving the plant to much nitrogen can cause the plants hairs to turn red)

2) Like i mentioned earlier alot of my fan leaves are turning yellow and brown and dying ive heard that plants do this but do they do it this early into flowering and kill majority of the fan leaves? and for about two weeks i havent noticed any change in my flowers getting bigger nor the plant growing vertical, my buds are little im wondering if they will eventually gain mass and weight..have i stunted the potential yield and growth, or will my flowers fill out later in the flowering stage towards the end?
Any help would be much appreciated


Below are some pictures of different plants to see if anyone can tell me what i need to do or what i am doing wrong to cause this to my plants or if im just freaking out for nothing and its natural and the last pic i tried to get close to the buds see if anyone could help me and tell me how much longer they have till about ready to harvest?

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SpicySativa

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A few things that come to mind:

*Quit using that Kool Bloom. You're shooting yourself in the foot trying to combine a harsh chemical "bloom booster" with a a natural, living organic soil. Your General Organics nutrients are not in a form that the plant can just drink up. First, the raw ingredients need to be processed ("eaten" and excreted) by the living bacteria, archaea, and fungi in your soil. A central goal in organic gardening is to keep this microbiology happy. You are after all feeding the soil, which then feeds your plant. Using harsh chemicals like Kool Bloom is very detrimental in an organic grow. Instead of "boosting" your blooms, you're harming the soil life that is necessary to process your General Organics nutrients into plant-available forms.


*Your plants look thirsty. The generally lack of "perkiness" tells me that the roots arent taking in enough water. This could mean:


1) You are letting the soil get too dry between waterings, causing some of your root tips to dry out. Do your plants always look like that, or do they noticeably "perk up" after you water them?


2) If the salt concentration (Kool Bloom is a chemical salt) in your soil water is too high, the plant will have a hard time up taking water. Remember the science experiment where you put bacteria in salty water and it shrivels them up? Good old osmosis at work. Same idea applies to plants. The plant has to work harder to "drink" when the water is salty.


3) Letting the plant get too dry/droppy even once during bloom can throw things off for the remainder of the grow. The plant doesn't put a whole lot of energy into growing new roots once it's in bloom. If it dries out to the point where root tips start dying, you're left with a less effective root system and a plant that might even look thirsty when the soil is moist.


Your plants will need at least 3.5 or 4 more weeks. I would recommend a couple feedings of half strength "grow" and half strength "bloom" (whateverthose are called in the GO nutrient line). NO MORE KOOL BLOOM.


Other than that, make sure you don't let the soil dry out too much. The "let the soil dry out completely before watering again" dogma is a joke... Plant roots need to be in 100% humidity to remain healthy. This means your soil has to stay moist.


Hope that helps!


Cheers,


SpicySativa
 
They perk up.. this was right before a watering and lately ive been away from my plants for a few days this time included and normally id have my girlfriend water them but this time around she couldnt get to them and some other times. (also this is the worst looking plant like 7 others the leafs done look like that and droop.)

One time i was gone for an extra two days when i came back home they were really droopy and dry and ever since then ive noticed they werent the same... i was so mad i couldnt get them watered.. it kinda also happened this time around i took these pictures right before i watered them.. thats also a big problem for when to water and when they already have enough that i am learning and yeah the whole let the soil dry was what i was told now i know and have seen that method sucks (learned the hard way on that one).

As far as the kool bloom consider that gone lol of course im still learning and hearing the whole kool bloom increases yield i wanted to add that.. but thank you for the advice man appreciate the help man im put that into affect and see what happens.

Other than the bad news do you think these will be ok till i harvest them and make for good smoke?
 

SpicySativa

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Hell yeah, man. You'll harvest some good smoke. Yields are gonna suffer a little, but whatever. Just keep tht soil a little more moist, give them another feed or two with some Grow nutrient mixed in, and ride it out.

I've had the same thing happen when I went out of town for a week. Came back and the plants were super droopy. Some of the roots had dried up, and they never looked quite the same after that. Still produced some nice smoke, but yield was affected.
 
Alright cool man that's good to hear, as long as i get some decent smoke for my first harvest im good with that, But yeah looking forwarding to smoking this and reaping my rewards... just hope my flowers fill out a little more and im happy

much appreciate the help SS
 

ProdigalSun

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I always like these threads. I have either something to offer, or something to take from it. It's a little scary clicking on a thread, then a pic, and thinking, "crap, I wouldn't know what to do if that were mine".
 

kroost

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I always like these threads. I have either something to offer, or something to take from it. It's a little scary clicking on a thread, then a pic, and thinking, "crap, I wouldn't know what to do if that were mine".
The exact reason I'm reading this thread!
 

SpicySativa

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As for the buds fattening up, that seems to happen the most between weeks 5-7 of an 8-week strain. It'll surprise you how fast it happens.

Your plants are in full-on reproduction mode at this point, and they will do whatever it takes to procreate. Photosynthesis has slowed, and the plant is focused primarily on making flowers and ensuring they mature properly. It won't hesitate to reallocate mobile nutrients it's already taken up. Nitrogen is very mobile, and phosphorus and potassium are as well, to a lesser degree. If your plant is having a difficult time taking in enough nutrition for flower production through its root system for whatever reason, it will start to relocate nutrients from it's lowest (or sometimes largest) leaves. By giving it some extra (easily available) nitrogen, you can encourage the plant not to pull nitrogen from fan leaves.
 
Yeah man actually since ive posted this thread i have noticed some of the flowers starting to fatten up and come into each other.. so im feeling better that they will get fatter and make my crop decent. Sucks tho man all this time and effort to make everything right all the planning and studying i did, getting the right nutrients, right environment making sure i was 100 % ready to go before starting and after all the love and care it comes down to something as little as letting it go an extra day or two for my plants to dry out and start dying lol NO BOOK OR THREAD EVER TOLD ME THIS DAMMIT!

But exactly like you said it "started from the bottom now its here(at the top of the plant)" call this one the little Drake deficiency lol.. but it did make it ways from the bottom and now i am starting to see it take from the upper leafs

Also these are my nutrients that im using for my grow... BioThrive Bloom 2-4-4... Bio Bud 0.5-0.1-1.. Bio Marine 2-3-1... CalMg+.. all at 1/2 strength, with all this since i saw my leaves yellowing i figured my nitrogen wasnt enough so i started adding at 1/2 strength the BioThrive Grow 4-3-3.. and of course at very low dose the Liquid KoolBloom (stopped using) 0-10-10

With all this, is there enough nitrogen in my nutrients for my plants? Or would i need more

Also i water plain water than nutrient should i just water nutrient water every watering or stick with my watering and maybe up my strength to full strength?
 
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