BudgetGrows
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I've seen Black Magic start pushing ALOT in local retailers in CA since we went legal. Swear Home Depots now have a pot section. From Fabric Bags, to Soil, to LED grow light panels...super funny
Small Spaces, Cheap Lights, Little Training, and BIG YEILDS.
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Tx-Peanutt
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Maybe up there.. Not down here
BudgetGrows
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Yes, Same mix as before, you still aren't recreational there are you?
Tx-Peanutt
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Hell no not even med ....
BudgetGrows
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What a rookie!!
Had to go away a few days. Left the garden alone except last day the lady did some watering. I came back and we'll...crap lol. My PH went to shit. I'm still not sure how. I mean... Soil was 5.3
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So color still looked ok. Entire leaves we're curled down as if there was massive over watering. Some leaves went crisp with some brown reddish streaks down center vein. I'm not sure how the roots are. Forgot to snap some pics..doh!
Solution..FLUSH. of course
. PHd water to 6.8 and gave a nice healthy few gallons a pot. My soil today came in around 6.3-6.4. Recovery looking good. I see them perking back up. The corner buds. Well. They look like there crying 
. Will see how another day or two goes.
Oh yeah. Since I haven't had a chance to post. They started to flower lol. What a time for shit to happen. Here's them tonight. Did I miss anything? Other than having yet to replenish nutes?
Had to go away a few days. Left the garden alone except last day the lady did some watering. I came back and we'll...crap lol. My PH went to shit. I'm still not sure how. I mean... Soil was 5.3
. So color still looked ok. Entire leaves we're curled down as if there was massive over watering. Some leaves went crisp with some brown reddish streaks down center vein. I'm not sure how the roots are
. Forgot to snap some pics..doh! Solution..FLUSH. of course
. PHd water to 6.8 and gave a nice healthy few gallons a pot. My soil today came in around 6.3-6.4. Recovery looking good. I see them perking back up. The corner buds. Well. They look like there crying . Will see how another day or two goes.Oh yeah. Since I haven't had a chance to post. They started to flower lol. What a time for shit to happen. Here's them tonight. Did I miss anything? Other than having yet to replenish nutes?
Tx-Peanutt
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Wow hopefully they recover I wonder how your ph got out of wack ???
do u check run off ph or do u use one of those prong things from Home Depot???
do u check run off ph or do u use one of those prong things from Home Depot???
BudgetGrows
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I check by runoff. Seems more accurate
BigHornBuds
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Looks good, shit happens to every grower
They will bounce back fast.
Green leaf nutrients is giving away samples of MagaCrop if you pay shipping ,
Mines in the mail , but the free sample wouldn’t do much for me so I got the 22 pound bag.
They will bounce back fast.
Green leaf nutrients is giving away samples of MagaCrop if you pay shipping ,
Mines in the mail , but the free sample wouldn’t do much for me so I got the 22 pound bag.
NanoGadget
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Looks like they'll bounce back just fine! Question: how many tops did you have on each plant have before they hit the trelace?
ThatSpudGuy
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Looking good bro. Look forward to seeing that bud 
BudgetGrows
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Can't quite remember, at least 7 or 8 mains on each. Some more
BudgetGrows
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There coming back, pistils starting to form again leaves reaching back up. Except one in the corner? WTH lol. The dark sports are spreading too. I think I remember that as potassium right? Also have the bright yellow starting. Looks like I had N probs too. But I don't think I'm adding N at this stage in flower. I never like too. I'm let her sit another day or so to soak in the flush and then give them a nice home cooked meal. 
BudgetGrows
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It's a monster topped run though so I never topped. It's just branching on it's own that way
BudgetGrows
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There not looking great. Been couple days since flush. Gave her a good feed tonight. Looks to me like a phosphorus deficiency. But maybe Mg too??? Shouldn't be Mg. The super curled leaves never sprang back. But the new growth set is looking good and straight. What do y'all think? Hope they get back to 100% soon so I can do one more trim
I gave 3/4 strength FF tiger and big bloom. with 1 tspn CalMag per gallon.
Look at the true vipar footprint 
lmao maybe 12"x10"
I gave 3/4 strength FF tiger and big bloom. with 1 tspn CalMag per gallon.
Look at the true vipar footprint lmao maybe 12"x10" Attachments
My Name is Mike
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Keep at it bro. Mad props getting 4 great looking plants going in that space.
BudgetGrows
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PhriendlyPharmer
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Where are you sourcing your water from?
BudgetGrows
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Same tap water I've been using for years
BudgetGrows
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Time, time, where went the time! So....well as you'll see there's a hole in the screen . They were all on there death bed. Work took me away again and the defeciencies kept growing. I've been nursing them the past few days I've been home. Three are coming back. Well sorta. One bit the dust totally and I unweaved her dead carcas from the screen. I've never had a growing go this bad. It's a little beyond my skills. If anyone could chime in and teach me a bit I would appreciate it. Always good to learn from mistakes I guess lol. Here's the rundown..
Initial cause..Girl fed with around 5. pH using vinegar when I was away.
I flushed the pots with 6.8 RO water. After I refed micro nutes and bloom nutes at half strength with little CalMag. Then left again. That's when things got worse. I've tested soil over and over and it's now back to 6.3. the budsites seem to be growing again but the yellowing has gotten worse. To my knowledge it looks exactly like a Mag issue and Potassium issue. But I've rePHd the soil. My watering PH is spot on now. But still...it continues
I just decided to do a light foliar feed with a bit of Epsom and very light bloom nutes.
Good thing is..well just break out more clones. Time for a restart fellas. Sorry lol.
Two transplanted today. Will LST these babies and get these side shoots up.
Strangest thing I've had.. this top made its two but then sprang a third right out of the cut!
. They were all on there death bed. Work took me away again and the defeciencies kept growing. I've been nursing them the past few days I've been home. Three are coming back. Well sorta. One bit the dust totally and I unweaved her dead carcas from the screen. I've never had a growing go this bad. It's a little beyond my skills. If anyone could chime in and teach me a bit I would appreciate it. Always good to learn from mistakes I guess lol. Here's the rundown..Initial cause..Girl fed with around 5. pH using vinegar when I was away.
I flushed the pots with 6.8 RO water. After I refed micro nutes and bloom nutes at half strength with little CalMag. Then left again. That's when things got worse. I've tested soil over and over and it's now back to 6.3. the budsites seem to be growing again but the yellowing has gotten worse. To my knowledge it looks exactly like a Mag issue and Potassium issue. But I've rePHd the soil. My watering PH is spot on now. But still...it continues
I just decided to do a light foliar feed with a bit of Epsom and very light bloom nutes.
Good thing is..well just break out more clones
. Time for a restart fellas. Sorry lol.Two transplanted today. Will LST these babies and get these side shoots up
. Strangest thing I've had.. this top made its two but then sprang a third right out of the cut!
Serva
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I would say you have done just too much...
Put away you ph pen, you are missing some informations. The ph of soil is most likely a mirror of your feeding. If it‘s correct, your feeding is good. My ph of water is 7-8, that‘s not a problem with organic grows.
So the first problem was giving the wrong nutes. There wasn‘t even a visible bud, when you already fed tiger. So alot of unused P, which is changing the ph of the soil. Cannabis will need N in high amounts during the stretching phase up to 3-4 weeks into flower. Just look at all the green mass the plants are producing at this stage. If they are getting bright in this time, feed N. Bloom nutes are needed from week 3-4 on, when buds are building up. Big bloom seems ok earlier on (I am not used to the products, so I just looked up whats inside. I guess other people can tell you more).
Flushing destroyed the microorganisms, which are doing the job during a organic grow. So never flush. To build up bacteria you can feed some aerated compost tea (ACT), or add diatomaceus earth to the soil. Dolomith would be better than garden lime.
It seems the plants were overwatered alot, maybe also because of the flushing. Maybe you also need more aeration in the soil.
And I would add neem to the soil as pest prevention.
Put away you ph pen, you are missing some informations. The ph of soil is most likely a mirror of your feeding. If it‘s correct, your feeding is good. My ph of water is 7-8, that‘s not a problem with organic grows.
So the first problem was giving the wrong nutes. There wasn‘t even a visible bud, when you already fed tiger. So alot of unused P, which is changing the ph of the soil. Cannabis will need N in high amounts during the stretching phase up to 3-4 weeks into flower. Just look at all the green mass the plants are producing at this stage. If they are getting bright in this time, feed N. Bloom nutes are needed from week 3-4 on, when buds are building up. Big bloom seems ok earlier on (I am not used to the products, so I just looked up whats inside. I guess other people can tell you more).
Flushing destroyed the microorganisms, which are doing the job during a organic grow. So never flush. To build up bacteria you can feed some aerated compost tea (ACT), or add diatomaceus earth to the soil. Dolomith would be better than garden lime.
It seems the plants were overwatered alot, maybe also because of the flushing. Maybe you also need more aeration in the soil.
And I would add neem to the soil as pest prevention.
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