Small Legal Medical Garden Dairy Queen, Sour Kush, Ace of spades and JTR for starters

tranka32

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**Strains: Dairy Queen, Ace Of Spades, Jack The Ripper, Sour Kush and the keeper of the garden the little sweet haze that could.

(You will see it doing some regular photo bombing. The patient that gifted it to me was calling it he and correcting himself with "she". It looks like a girl to me but I always say he as well. I keep him around even though she is small she is said to be very good medicine!)


**Medium: Espoma Organic potting soil and some coco seed starter mixed together with 1 cup of crushed oyster shell per bag and a hand full of Jonathan Green tomato and plant ferts mixed well.

(I am on a very tight budget and used what was available and cost effective. In the future I will be going as organic as possible hoping to achieve 100% and OMRI approved but for now it is what it is.)

** Environment:

*Area: An approximate 3x2x11 foot space sectioned into 2 with a space left for future ventilation and scrubbing between the levels. Insulated with 3/4 inch styro foam sheets and the reflective thin type insulating material you can buy at the big blue box hardware chain. The area is lined with black and white poly, taped with white duct tape and sealed with temporary doors made out of the same material and closed with velcro stips.

*Lighting: Lower level is lit by a 2 foot 6 bulb Power Trip HO T5 with a dual spectrum bulb configuration; 4 24 watt 6500k in center slots and 2 24 watt 3700k in the two outer slots. I
will be using additional HO T5 with PAR configuration for flowering as finances permit. The upper deck is lit by a single 125 watt CFL with generic parabolic wing reflector.

* Ventilation and air scrubbing: I am still working on this and having some trouble putting it all together but to be honest I have put the least amount of thought into this part. I made a home made type bucket and activated carbon with fan design that works but not really good enough. I will be using a 6 inch exhaust fan with T connector to pull and scrub air from both levels. At first I am looking to make this a passive air intake system "I think that's what it's called".


(This is a space restricted closet grow. I am improvising and adapting as I go. Most of all I am trying to do this as close as possible to the right way while staying within budget. My temps very seldom if ever get below 75 and 85 F and RH is usually never below 40%)

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Now Jump ahead to yesterday here they all are sun bathing in the late morning~

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tranka32

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Now for the run down of what's going on now. My caregiver just came over today and helped me clone the DQ. We took a lot of nice healty clones off of her that will be put to good use. More photos to view.

AOS and JTR lined up on the shelf catching some real sunlight. I have two different phenos one is sweet the other stank!!! The next shot is of the sour kush catching some sun. Another group shot. Next is a structure shot " I did some pinching and bending for future support, the root ball and the final transplant into the 7gal for flower. Whew, what a day!

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Grojak

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Hard to say exactly but your DQ looks to be more Sativa than Indica, double serrated edges skinnier leaves, I find the Sativa doms harder to clone than the indica, that damn cheese (indica) cut is always first to clone, I've successfully cloned 3 different pheno's but the Sativa's just take a little more time and seem to stress a little bit more.
 

tranka32

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I agree it does but it's got the most god awful funk of I don't know what. I have never smelled the cheese before but this thing was stinking up my entire house at a young age. I made a sour kush clone today kinda broke off by mistake as I was giving her a little work out. We will see how that one does compared to the DQ. Thanks for looking Grojak!
 

tranka32

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Dairy Queen, Sour Kush report: week ??? (everything is staggered and it's all in my head somwhere no notes yet)

* Ok so a week has gone by and things are about the same. No major issues or setbacks other than space is tight and I still don't have a proper Bloom Room. This is the week I will get it done!!! Damnit!

* Moved the stank DQ into a 7 gallon for it's final resting place for the next 2.5 months or so.
* The sour kush are worrying me a bit. I think it could be PH problems or heat stress. I may have let them go a 1/2 day too long between watering and my temp got close to 90 once or twice. Does anyone know if Kush prefer a more acidic or alkaline soil? All four of the Kush are having this problem. It is generally isolated to the lower fan leaves. They are turning brittle at the ends and crumbling up. They just look ragged. I'm hoping it was the heat and they were trying to kill off the bottom sets by shutting them off.

I checked the ph from the over spill and it was on the low side of 7 so maybe 6.8 - 7 (no pen yet using pool test strips and distilled water). I will post a few photos of the leaves. I think it is also from the abuse they take when moving in and out of the closet area. I try to be gentle but I will be the first to admit that I am a spaz always knocking shit over...

* The AOS and JTR and just hanging in the sun a few hours a day. They are starting to pick up and it won't be long till they need them new feet!

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806KING

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Dairy Queen, Sour Kush report: week ??? (everything is staggered and it's all in my head somwhere no notes yet)

* Ok so a week has gone by and things are about the same. No major issues or setbacks other than space is tight and I still don't have a proper Bloom Room. This is the week I will get it done!!! Damnit!

* Moved the stank DQ into a 7 gallon for it's final resting place for the next 2.5 months or so.
* The sour kush are worrying me a bit. I think it could be PH problems or heat stress. I may have let them go a 1/2 day too long between watering and my temp got close to 90 once or twice. Does anyone know if Kush prefer a more acidic or alkaline soil? All four of the Kush are having this problem. It is generally isolated to the lower fan leaves. They are turning brittle at the ends and crumbling up. They just look ragged. I'm hoping it was the heat and they were trying to kill off the bottom sets by shutting them off.

I checked the ph from the over spill and it was on the low side of 7 so maybe 6.8 - 7 (no pen yet using pool test strips and distilled water). I will post a few photos of the leaves. I think it is also from the abuse they take when moving in and out of the closet area. I try to be gentle but I will be the first to admit that I am a spaz always knocking shit over...

* The AOS and JTR and just hanging in the sun a few hours a day. They are starting to pick up and it won't be long till they need them new feet!

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nice !! cant wait too see more pics
 

Grojak

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As I said previously I had 3 pheno's, the one I didn't keep might be the one you have (never mind that I didn't keep her), a very Sativa dom, tallest of all 3, stetched like no other and had a similar stink as the Cheese. I tossed this girl because A. my house limits me to using a 8bubl 4' T5 setup (a 400w HPS draws too many amps for this place), B. I had to top her 4 weeks into flowering *removed 8 inches off one branch and 5 inches off another) to try to keep a nice canopy and she still brought in just 4g less than the indica cheese pheno. I did try to breed with her before tossing it but mights ruined the plant and it was first to go back into flower so I tossed it.

I harvested in late January and started smoking it around Feb 14th and still have a jar left. While there is no doubt a funk smell and as you will soon find out tons of trichs, after curing in my jars for a couple months I noticed a very complex aroma. The Cheese is overpowering, but on a day when my sinus's are clear (freakin allergies) I can detect the ever so subtle smell of lemonade (which is identical to the lemonade pheno smell). Just know she's going to double or triple in flower (presumably).
 

tranka32

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Nice to hear Grojak when I rub the stalks and leaves I can smell a little lemon hard to tell the other DQ I have is sweet lemony JC dom. Can't wait till they finish so I can enjoy the fruit of my labor. Thanks for commenting and I hope I do have the same DANK!
 

tranka32

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I am in the process of swapping around lighting and plants as I make space for a flowering tent~! Just a few quick pictures as an update.

** The first is a group shot of the DQ, Sour Kush and AOS and single JTR. I didn't include photos of the sour kush yet. I did some LST / Cropping/ Bending ect. I will get them up close next time.
** The next is a group shot with the duel spectrum bulbs on.
** Tight overhead of the DQ.
** Plate full of Ace Of Spades, I am getting ready to top them in the next day or two.
* Lined up looking good.
** The little JTR. This one has had it tough, dropped a few times still ticking.

Well back to my room. I need to get another light moved around and put up some plastic. I have my first cloning project underway right now and I'm excited to say that I see roots on a single clone. I am eagerly awaiting the others to cut the rock wool too. I was hoping for 50% success rate! Patience is a virtue!

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tranka32

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Moved into the tent today 4x4x6.5. Then a photo update on the AOS and JTR. Did I mention that I got some roots on my clone project? I started out with 8 lost 1 and have 6 out of 7 showing. It took about 2 weeks for them to show. I need to start thinking of getting them into some soil soon. :)

p.s. Should have a 4 foot 8 bulb mixed spectrum before the weekend is over if everything goes as planned!

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Grojak

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I have a 4' 8 bulb that I've flowered under twice and electrical problems in new house has forced me to run it for now (I can't use my 400w in the room I setup as my grow, however I can use it in a different room... couldn't use it at all at the last house.... headaches) I pulled 5.5oz off 8 plants my first time using this setup.
 

tranka32

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I have been busy maintaining all of these plants and weeding out the weak. I killed 2 of the sour kush they didn't make the cut. I have one of them in my bedroom near a window. I'm trying to force it to herm so that I can witness first hand what one does. The keepers are in the tent right now in total darkness. I have good temps and an inline air box pulling air causing negative pressure. I better go back and read my last post to see where I left off.

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Ok, so I got the tent off Ebay 4x4. I got this awesome deal from a local guy that is a caregiver on some used equipment. He sold me a power trip 4 foot 8 bulb T5, a Stealth Edition Air Box 400 CFM with a 4" centrifugal inline fan and like 10 different fittings for like 35% of retail. He only used the equipment for 9 months. My exhaust is going directly into my room and cooling me off after working up a sweat. Smells great like sweet coconuts.

So these are the ladies going into flower as we speak. That lanky Sour Kush to the left was rejected and will serve as my hermaphrodite experiment. I will get pictures of the inside and canopy tomorrow night. I decided to start my 12 hour schedule at 9pm so lights out for 24 hours; No Exceptions!
The Ace of Spades are vegging slowly under weak lighting so I can't complain. They are like cabbages. Very squat and dense. Internodes are very close and shoots are popping everywhere. I topped them at around the 4th node and trimmed the lowers up to that node. I actually just topped a few of them again last night and took additional lover shoots off trying to give the tops a chance to get more growth. I am only using a 125 CFL and a 4 foot 2 tube older style white T8 veg light. It's doing the job for now until I can afford more lighting and better exhaust / cooling. I'm grabbing a quick picture of them right now...



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Grojak

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I love the 2 lady bugs doing their work... No time to rest back to work girls!!! Your 4 x 4 tent is going to be your flower room? 4' 8bulb for flowering? I've pulled off 2 harvests under that same lamp, now I use it as my veg light. I'm using a 400w hps and a 200cfl in flower room now, hope to have a 3rd light, a 600w hps in a month or so. I can recommend not buying a Phantom digi ballast, I thought I had wiring issues at my home but turns out the ballast just didn't like Hortilux Eye MH, hps worked fine..


Pics look good, hows the DQ?
 

tranka32

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Yes, tent is flower room for now and yes flowering under the T5's with mixed spectrum. I will buy new bulbs when I can afford it and keep working my way up like you have been doing. I don't feel comfortable running the hps without having a new service run to my room. I have a spare 20 amp that I am looking to extend. Once again financial issues.
The DQ are the one's in the back of the first 2 pictures. They have been wonderful so far. They almost grew themselves, I don't think I even worried about them more than once or twice. They are spitting hairs all over and to me look very ready to flower "shit I have had them vegging since late February". The branches and stem are strong and easily super cropped they bounce right back and form some nice knuckles. I have a few of the tops bent back to fill out the canopy. So far I have not needed to stake it but have them ready for the growth spurt. I am just hoping that I can manage in this tent. If not I will be making a room within a room to keep them happy. Thanks for your tips and interest Grojak I appreciate it.
 

Grojak

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6 plants are the max for that light, just watch out for that Sativa dom, if she is the cheesy lemon pheno (this may be the one they call cheese cake) it stretches like a mother... They all look great though, I'm on my 3rd run of DQ, with new beans in rock wool I've isolated DQ down to just 1 remaining pheno starting on 4th run. I actually messed up and didn't keep a cut of the other DQ and I just decided to let it go, I gave someone else that cut so I can always get it back. Get to flowering :) Make sure you have your odor control ready by week 2 of flowering. They get skunky
 

Weedasaurus

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nice little setup you've got. Creativity can go along way when on a budget. The more you know, the less you need.

Home depot sells activated carbon filter fabric that can be cut to length for ac units Just cut a hole on the bottom of the bucket large enough to fit the biggest fan you can fit, then tape the carbon fabric over the top. Since the bucket is conical you can cut a hole on the roof of the grow box just slightly larger than the bottom of the bucket then press the bucket over the top into the hole for a nice seal
 

tranka32

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just realized your using a tent. guess that wouldn't work
How is it that I missed these posts. I don't think I have it set to notify me when posts have been updated. I actually have a decent scrubber running right now. It's an airbox http://www.amazon.com/Airbox-Stealth-Edition-Hydroponic-Eliminating/dp/B005R5KSV4. It has a 4" inline connected through the top of the tent passive intake on a timer running for 15 minutes every hour. I may increase this time or just invest in a temperature sensitive switch. Thank you for the advice it is always welcome. I have some new pictures to post so I got to get back to work cropping, renaming, resizing and deleting.
 
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