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mile.high

mile.high

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DrOgkush said:
I do. It’s called photosynthesis. And that shit was scientifically proven ages ago.
here’s a link
www.nationalgeographic.org

Photosynthesis

Photosynthesis is the process by which plants use sunlight, water, and carbon dioxide to create oxygen and energy in the form of sugar.
www.nationalgeographic.org www.nationalgeographic.org

learned this in elementary school.
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Do you know how compensatory photosynthesis works in cannabis after defoliation?


























I didn't think so.
 
xtsho

xtsho

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mile.high said:
Bro science comes from people like you talking out your ass without and proof at all.
You think it works like that, post proof.
I didn't say whether defoliation has any affect at all on cannabis. I just pointed out that there is work to be done.
You don't know, I don't know.
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You can't walk back calling photosynthesis broscience. I don't need any proof of photosynthesis. It's settled science. The process of photosynthesis has been studied for centuries. Somehow you missed that lesson in basic Horticulture 101. I tried to explain it very simply so even someone like you could understand but apparently it wasn't simple enough.

If you don't know then why did you choose to bother posting anything other than to try and discredit me? You post some study about defoliation on tomatoes that you didn't read and only did so in order to either start an argument, discredit me, or both. You failed at discrediting me and now that you've been called out you backtrack and run.

Kids these days.
 
mile.high

mile.high

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xtsho said:
You can't walk back calling photosynthesis broscience. I don't need any proof of photosynthesis. It's settled science. The process of photosynthesis has been studied for centuries. Somehow you missed that lesson in basic Horticulture 101. I tried to explain it very simply so even someone like you could understand but apparently it wasn't simple enough.

If you don't know then why did you choose to bother posting anything other than to try and discredit me? You post some study about defoliation on tomatoes that you didn't read and only did so in order to either start an argument, discredit me, or both. You failed at discrediting me and now that you've been called out you backtrack and run.

Kids these days.
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Same question to you.
Show me data on compensatory photosynthesis after defoliation of a cannabis plant and maybe I'll agree with you, but I'm not gonna take some idiot's word on it.
 
hydroScript.js

hydroScript.js

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xtsho said:
You're the one that should have shut up instead of opening your mouth.

You post a link about growing fruit not flowers. But since you don't know anything about science you wouldn't understand. If you want to chop off all your leaves you're free to do it but please don't spread that extreme defoliation bullshit as many new growers actually do that crap and end up screwing up their grow.

It's obvious that you haven't even bothered to read that study you posted. They cut off 6 leaves from the base. Nothing close to the defoliation being used by some cannabis growers. The study you linked to showed that defoliation of more than 6 leaves resulted in a lower yield of fruit.

Go back and actually read that study and you'll see that minor defoliation increased fruit yield but after that the yield started to decrease from the control plants. Look at Tables 1, 2, and 3.


Fruit yield: Defoliations had significant effect on fruit yield per
plant (Table 3). Result revealed that fruit yield increased over
control up to 6 leaves defoliated plants and thereafter
decreased significantly. The higher fruit yield was recorded in
control, 3 and 6 leaves defoliated plants and the highest fruit
weight was recorded in 3 and 6 leaves defoliated plants
(1.70 kg per plant). In contrast, the lowest fruit yield was
recorded in 12 leaves defoliated plants (1.19 kg per plant). The
result indicates that tomato plant can tolerant up to 6 leaves
loss during flowering. The fruit yield per plant increased under
3 and 6 leaves defoliated plants was due to greater number of
fruits per plant and larger fruit size compared to control



"CONCLUSION
Based on the experimental results, it may be concluded
that the defoliation of up to 6 leaves from base had no
significant negative influence on plant characters and fruit
yield of tomato even increased yield over control in 3 and 6
leaves defoliated plants."


You show up and try and discredit me with some study you didn't even bother to read. You failed. That study also has nothing to do with cannabis but a tomato which is a fruiting plant. That study also showed a slight increase with mild defoliation basically cutting off the bottom leaves and at nothing even close to the extreme defoliation you are pushing.

Broscience comes from people like you. Next time you need a lesson feel free to send me a direct message. The only thing you started was embarrassing yourself.

Calling photosynthesis broscience just shows how much ignorance is out there.
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WTF is this all about....this is NOT what the post was about at all...seriously?? I can prove plants drink water...and I can prove i can use Google!!!! OOOOO!! I rock!
https://scitechdaily.com/scientists-are-first-in-the-world-to-watch-plants-drink-water-in-real-time/
 
xtsho

xtsho

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mile.high said:
"Broscience is a term for misinformation not backed by science"
That's exactly what you did, bro.
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Where?

xtsho said:
No it's not broscience. Photosynthesis occurs in the leaves. Photosynthesis is the process that creates food that's available to the plant. Removing leaves reduces photosynthesis which equals less food. More food makes bigger flowers. That's real science.

It's a "Beating a dead horse" topic. I'm not interested in getting into a debate on how less leaves = bigger flowers. I'll stick with actual science. Others can believe anything they want.
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lusidghost

lusidghost

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Defoliation, in theory, helps get light to lower bud sites. The leaves, in theory, act as reserves during the flower period. I've always said you'll get basically the same yield, just less larf. If you don't mind larf, then cool. If you don't think it converts larf to nugs, cool. To say it's actually harming the plant or reducing the yield is pure speculation.
 
xtsho

xtsho

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hydroScript.js said:
I'm for a Plants right to choose.....sometimes the proof that stupidity is genetic is right in front of your face....
I mean those r some stupid-looking plants huh?
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What? Gotta grab my breath.

I'm still laughing at the comment above yours where some clown wants me to prove that reducing leaf surface reduces the plants ability to photosynthesize.
 
hydroScript.js

hydroScript.js

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mile.high said:
“Removing leaves reduces photosynthesis”

prove it.
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So does removing sun:-)
xtsho said:
What? Gotta grab my breath.

I'm still laughing at the comment above yours where some clown wants me to prove that reducing leaf surface reduces the plants ability to photosynthesize.
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Prove that you breath O2 and plants breath c02...otherwise bro we got nothing to talk about...you clearly are not on the same level as me....15 on my SAT....if u don't know...u don't know
 
lusidghost

lusidghost

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I think a good experiment would be to top a plant and only keep the two main branches. Don't defoliate one of the branches, and defoliate the other one completely, sugar leaves and all. Then see if the leaves from the natural side could grow the cola on the defoliated side. Or do the same thing, but defoliate a few nodes between the cola and the plant to see if the leaves on the same branch can grow a cola while skipping a few bud sites.

From what I've seen the benefit of photosynthesis is localized. The fan and sugar leaves on the bud are driving its growth.
 
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waterproof808

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Runtz is not exactly a high yielding strain, but they still have time to fill in and you should end up with some tasty little golf ball nuggets in the end
 
hotrodharley

hotrodharley

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mile.high said:
Do you know how compensatory photosynthesis works in cannabis after defoliation?


























I didn't think so.
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Increases in photosynthesis of leaves remaining after defoliation may result from shifts in leaf photosynthetic characteristics or from an improved light penetration in the canopy. However, few studies have tried to estimate the relative contribution of these factors to mitigating the negative effects of defoliation. We present a quantitative framework for such an analysis.

There. Easy peasy, Einstein.


2008. And crap like this is interesting. But useful only on a commercial scale Not a surprise for those of us who selectively thin or defoliate. We aren't doing it for fun.
 
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