Slow bud maturation...

I have a grow currently going that is turning out successful thus far, just very slow going. I harvested a Holy Grail 69 from Samsara (herbie's freebee) on Monday night due to pollen sacs showing up, but even at day 73 it was still not quite ready, while the breeder recommends only 60-70 days. I have two blue dreams, one hybrid looking, one sativa looking and both have big, rock solid buds, but probably still have at least another week. I also have a beautiful, stinky golden goat that is also on day 75 and has yet to even have a single orange hair. What sorts of things can cause such slow growth. My environmental factors are dialed in, I feel my feeding and watering is dialed in as well. Any suggestions would be great because I have some SLHs I'd like to get into the room because they're getting too big and I sort of assumed I'd be done w this grow before day 100 haha. Thanks for any help!

What are you using for lights and nutes? Got any pictures?

Golden goat can flower for over 11 weeks due to its Hawaiian sativa genetics, that's probably why

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I am using Fox Farm trio and water solubles at 1/2 strength, also using great white monthly, CaMg and ArmorSi biweekly, and Mykos for transplants...Always pH my h2o somewhere between 6 and 6 1/2...temps are 76-79 lights and 56-60 dark...humidity is around 35-45% (much higher during snow)...T5 for vegg, Mars Hydro 960w reflector and 4 23w 2700k CFLs flanking...I understand golden goat is a longer flowering sativa dom, but Tomorrow will be 11weeks and there are still mostly clear trikes...I took 2 clones of the goat, and they are further along than she is...stand by for snaps

So of course I go outside and the golden goat has orange hairs, after I bitch about it not having any orange hairs...all are on day 76 of flower

Blue Dream #2 bud

Blue Dream #2

Blue Dream #3 bud

Blue Dream #3

Golden goat bud

Golden goat

Afghani #1 bud

Afghani #1

Golden goat clones

Blue dreams look like they have a week left, almost done, and the goat and afgani are still putting on weight. Id say two weeks for those. Check back with more pics in a week. Those white pistals mean theyre growing more and unless the new growth starts foxtailing badly id just let it go.

Are you running bloom food or still veg food on them?

I am just following the FF feed schedule except I'm using it at half strength...I may need to tone it down even more though because bd3 and golden goat have some burnt tips...I have a link for the journal to this grow in my signature but it keeps getting erased or something

Im with the alien just let em go the bigger they get the better itd be worth the wait just my nickel

Yes definitely I agree, I was just wondering if I had been doing something wrong that was causing them to be on the long side. Yeah I'm a huge golden goat fan there's no way I'm pulling her early before I get that warm Mountain Dew smell lol

Giddy up said:

Yes definitely I agree, I was just wondering if I had been doing something wrong that was causing them to be on the long side. Yeah I'm a huge golden goat fan there's no way I'm pulling her early before I get that warm Mountain Dew smell lol

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I hear alot of this golden goat where can i get info on this strain and im currently searching for the yoda og and jesus og golden goat and gorilla #4. Seem to be the hip new fad what is the best part of this strain?

I'm a mostly indica fan because most sativas make me very paranoid, but this one is an 'up' type of high but without the wired part. It's hard to explain, but it's like a laid-back motivated. I realize that makes zero sense haha. Mine also may not be purebred, it was a bagseed from a private seller in CO I got a year back or so, and last I heard golden goat seeds haven't been around that long

Yes they have a few weeks left.

As a long time FF user, here's some tips with it.

Big Bloom, should be used at full strength (60ml or 4 tablespoons per gallon) throughout the entire flower cycle all the way to harvest. Same with tiger bloom.

Tiger bloom sweet spot is 10ml per gallon.

Never use the FF schedule as it doesn't even have the correct dosages for the products. FF schedule has big bloom using teaspoons per gallon, when the product itself uses tablespoons. This is kind of a big deal.

Not only that, but FF schedule has you still using grow big (a veg nute) during flower, which is dumb cause you don't want to use veg nutes during flower. Plus, tiger bloom already has a small % of N in it to maintain healthy growth, but anymore than that and you'll burn her!

superbak3d said:

Yes they have a few weeks left.

As a long time FF user, here's some tips with it.

Big Bloom, should be used at full strength (60ml or 4 tablespoons per gallon) throughout the entire flower cycle all the way to harvest. Same with tiger bloom.

Tiger bloom sweet spot is 10ml per gallon.

Never use the FF schedule as it doesn't even have the correct dosages for the products. FF schedule has big bloom using teaspoons per gallon, when the product itself uses tablespoons. This is kind of a big deal.

Not only that, but FF schedule has you still using grow big (a veg nute) during flower, which is dumb cause you don't want to use veg nutes during flower. Plus, tiger bloom already has a small % of N in it to maintain healthy growth, but anymore than that and you'll burn her!

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You betcha. Stop using the grow nutes in flower. Then come back on later and whine when the lower leaves turn to shit. Newbies, take his advice with a huge grain of salt.

Well I'm not going to take it w a grain of salt, that would insinuate that I don't want to hear it. I DO want to hear every critique because I am a noob who doesn't know any other growers in real life, hence me posting in the plant problems section. If I didn't want to hear the advice, I wouldn't have asked for it.

As for the grow big, I myself had thought it was weird I was giving it nitrogen all the way up to week 6 or 7 but of course I assumed Fox Farm was giving me legit info lol...thanks for the advice and I look forward to making adjustments. Is there a place on here somewhere where people might post their personalized feed schedules learned from experience?

That sounded snippy, it was not meant in that way, my bad hotrodharley

Giddy up said:

Well I'm not going to take it w a grain of salt, that would insinuate that I don't want to hear it. I DO want to hear every critique because I am a noob who doesn't know any other growers in real life, hence me posting in the plant problems section. If I didn't want to hear the advice, I wouldn't have asked for it.

As for the grow big, I myself had thought it was weird I was giving it nitrogen all the way up to week 6 or 7 but of course I assumed Fox Farm was giving me legit info lol...thanks for the advice and I look forward to making adjustments. Is there a place on here somewhere where people might post their personalized feed schedules learned from experience?

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Label instructions suck. Buy an EC/PPM meter. Adjust the feeds by lowering, but not eliminating, the nitrogen while increasing the micros and bloom nutes. Feed all 3 the whole grow - just in different ratios. But keep the EC within the range you have been feeding more or less by 0.5 let's say. GH says 1 of Grow, 2 of micros and 3 of bloom in flower. Do that and burn them. Keep that ratio and the plants get so leafy light penetration sucks. However do add 1/2 or 1/4 tsp of grow, unless she shows nute burn with tips blanching or other curl etc. Do NOT cut the N totally. At the end? Yes. You will get it. And keep air moving at all times including UNDER that canopy!

Nitrogen is a core macronutrient the plant uses throughout its whole life.It uses less during flower because its not growing as much foilage,but there is still a need for it right up until harvest.Leaves have to be maintained to keep the buds growing.

Well, here is where my noobness will shine...I thought EC/PPM was only something to be considered in hydro lol. I sort of feel dumb now hahaha

What's slowing bud growth in my opinion is paying attention to breeder estimates and counting days. Putting a time frame on them isn't helpful, you gotta let them finish when they finish. They look healthy and right on schedule to me.