SIP thread -- (Sub-Irrigated Planter)

GrassBurner

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Let's get this party started :bigjoint:
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Picked up the materials I need to finish the sips. Going with (2) 2" pvc wicks per sip. Doing some reading last night, and it sounded like the farther the wick protruded into the soil, the higher level of saturated soil. I assume we want a gradient of soil moisture from wet to dry, so I'm only going to bring the wick an inch into the soil container. Found some 2" black plastic pipe to use for fill tubes. Need to drill all my holes then I can paint them.
Lowes has their Vornado fans, and a few generic fans marked half off. Ive got a small Vornado tower fan, it's a quality product. Grabbed a round style that swivels up and down. If you need a fan, nows the time to buy :bigjoint:
 

myke

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What most of us do is plant a 6-8 week old gal in wait a week or two and flip.Timing of roots hitting the res and stretch is when you get the hydro growth.My soil is wet top to bottom,keeps the top dressings moist.
I would put the small 12q on the bottom (res) big one 18q for soil.
 
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myke

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I also cant see a difference if the wick tube extends into the soil.The whole bottom soil of the inntainer above the wick is I guess part of the wick.
I had cut the roots off in first pic,may 13 010.JPGmay 13 004.JPG but you can see how all the roots went to the wick.
 

GrassBurner

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Thanks for the info and advice @myke :blsmoke: I thought about putting the bigger container on top for soil, but those "shoulders" around the top 3 inches is where they stack onto each other. Can only stack same size, or smaller into bigger.
Could run 2 18 quarts together, would give you almost a gallon for the reservoir. Overall height would be the same as a 12 inside an 18 (15")
I'm hoping with the larger reservoir I can leave the plants for a longer period of time. Here's where I'm at right now.
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Picked up some Dr Earth liquid nutrients in a little pump bottle. I figure with only 3 gallons of soil, the plants will be hungry after the initial dry ammendments are consumed. Still planning to top dress when I flip to flower, hoping this will carry me through.
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ilovereggae

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Yeah I think I got some of that q powder too lol hard not to spend too much on their site!
I find myself looking for new stuff to buy when I only need a few items. I feel bad ordering only a few things lol.

Anyway here's an update you can all appreciate. Harvested my last plant from the 4x4 that had 6 earthbox Jr's.

first plant I pulled was a White Runtz that yielded 64g of small dense buds.

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next was 8 chile verde clones that yielded a total of 14oz inc popcorn. it's all for the head so didn't take time to seperate it all but am happy regardless.

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just pulled the last one which is a seed junkies cross. plant was a fugly mutant but looks to be 2+ oz on it.

pretty happy with that results. minimal anything except water and defol. i did use buildabloom a few times thru flower.
 
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meangreengrowinmachine

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I find myself looking for new stuff to buy when I only need a few items. I feel bad ordering only a few things lol.

Anyway here's an update you can all appreciate. Harvested my last plant from the 4x4 that had 6 earthbix Jr's.

first plant I pulled was a White Runtz that yielded 64g of small dense buds.

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next was 8 chile verde clones that yielded a total of 14oz inc popcorn. it's all for the head so didn't take time to seperate it all but am happy regardless.

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just pulled the last one which is a seed junkies cross. plant was a fugly mutant but looks to be 2+ oz on it.

pretty happy with that results. minimal anything except water and defol. i did use buildabloom a few times thru flower.
Beautiful man!
 

raggyb

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Thanks for the info and advice @myke :blsmoke: I thought about putting the bigger container on top for soil, but those "shoulders" around the top 3 inches is where they stack onto each other. Can only stack same size, or smaller into bigger.
Could run 2 18 quarts together, would give you almost a gallon for the reservoir. Overall height would be the same as a 12 inside an 18 (15")
I'm hoping with the larger reservoir I can leave the plants for a longer period of time. Here's where I'm at right now.
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Picked up some Dr Earth liquid nutrients in a little pump bottle. I figure with only 3 gallons of soil, the plants will be hungry after the initial dry ammendments are consumed. Still planning to top dress when I flip to flower, hoping this will carry me through.
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Just a guess but I think you could put more holes in the wicks.
 

Rocket Soul

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Hmm,Im new also to led.I ran HPS before.I would back it off by 12" or more.
My thoughts are when dimming does the spectrum stay the same?Id just lift the light 8-12" ish and see how much leaf temp drops.If any.
The spectrum does infact change but it's an extremely small change. Looking at LED datasheets you'll usually see a chromacity vrs drive current graph. I was led to believe it's the other way though, more current more blue bleeding thru the phosphor. But it's so little that it doesn't matter one bit for our purpose.
 

Hollatchaboy

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The spectrum does infact change but it's an extremely small change. Looking at LED datasheets you'll usually see a chromacity vrs drive current graph. I was led to believe it's the other way though, more current more blue bleeding thru the phosphor. But it's so little that it doesn't matter one bit for our purpose.
I believed the same. Blue light is higher energy light, so common sense would tell the more energy you give the light, the higher energy the light should be. Lol..... I'm such a dumbass. :wall:
 

Rocket Soul

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I believed the same. Blue light is higher energy light, so common sense would tell the more energy you give the light, the higher energy the light should be. Lol..... I'm such a dumbass. :wall:
The way it's supposed to work ( I gather... Still not completely sure) is that blue light pump excites the phosphor which give all the rest of the light of the spectrum and when you turn power up more of this blue light bleeds thru the phosphor. In any case it's so marginally that it doesn't matter. If it looks bluer on low should be a trick of the eye.
 

Hollatchaboy

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The way it's supposed to work ( I gather... Still not completely sure) is that blue light pump excites the phosphor which give all the rest of the light of the spectrum and when you turn power up more of this blue light bleeds thru the phosphor. In any case it's so marginally that it doesn't matter. If it looks bluer on low should be a trick of the eye.
My timber setup makes the light look really orange/ yellow when turned up....

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It's bluer when I turn it down....

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But yea, it's kinda funny how that works. Lol
 

Robar

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Hey Myke just gotta say I dig the new MOPAR Plumb-Crazy badge you're sportin!
esit* spelling
I must be higher than fuck! I did an edit on my last post for spelling then caught the S instead of the D when I spelled edit. LOL too damned funny!
 

Robar

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Lol,yup, never owned one.Maybe one day.
My first car was 1970 Dodge Super Bee with a punched out 383 with ram air system. I know right ! I turned 16 in 83 and my old man was a 32 year old gear head who of course was a mechanic by birth. This car was was nothing to look at but there wasn't much in my neck of the woods that could touch it!

My cousin who was also my best friend had a fast as hell 71 cuda with a 340. Well as kids with fast cars are want to do, we raced a LOT! It was fun, fun, fun, til daddy took the big block away...

One day the old man say, "We're putting a new motor in your car this weekend." I'm like fuckin shittin my pant pants! Every mopar guy's dream is to up-pot and go bigger! Now I've always been realistic about my place in the cosmos so I knew damned well the old man hadn't come up with a hemi, I mean come on lets be real. But I won't I lie I had visions of a big Holly double pumper on top of a 440 dancin in my head. and the old played the part perfect. He smiled, nodded is head and said "Yeah really" and kinda laughed along with me

So when the magical the weekend came of course the laughing was over. We put a 318 in my not so super bee. Dad explained that having seen first hand just how fast that car really was he knew it was a bad idea. He was at a stop sign out in the country when my cousin and I went flyin by side by side racing down the road.

Oh well, I had fast mopar for the better part of the summer of 83.

Memories...
 

myke

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My first car was 1970 Dodge Super Bee with a punched out 383 with ram air system. I know right ! I turned 16 in 83 and my old man was a 32 year old gear head who of course was a mechanic by birth. This car was was nothing to look at but there wasn't much in my neck of the woods that could touch it!

My cousin who was also my best friend had a fast as hell 71 cuda with a 340. Well as kids with fast cars are want to do, we raced a LOT! It was fun, fun, fun, til daddy took the big block away...

One day the old man say, "We're putting a new motor in your car this weekend." I'm like fuckin shittin my pant pants! Every mopar guy's dream is to up-pot and go bigger! Now I've always been realistic about my place in the cosmos so I knew damned well the old man hadn't come up with a hemi, I mean come on lets be real. But I won't I lie I had visions of a big Holly double pumper on top of a 440 dancin in my head. and the old played the part perfect. He smiled, nodded is head and said "Yeah really" and kinda laughed along with me

So when the magical the weekend came of course the laughing was over. We put a 318 in my not so super bee. Dad explained that having seen first hand just how fast that car really was he knew it was a bad idea. He was at a stop sign out in the country when my cousin and I went flyin by side by side racing down the road.

Oh well, I had fast mopar for the better part of the summer of 83.

Memories...
Awesome ,I was 16 in 83 also.Took mechanics all through high school.Everyone was a gear head.Spent a lot of time at pic a part, local junk yard. Had a 72 Nova that had a few engine transplants,transmissions etc.Auto teacher would let us stay after school to wrench on our cars.I blew up a motor every year seemed like,was nothing to replace it.Wasnt till grade 12 that I finally got it running good.Got a 12 bolt with 4;10 gears that thing was quick off the lights.Ended up smashing it up in a winter storm.
Good times.
 
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