shroom question
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columbinetoker17
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I just go to a field of grain fead cows this time of year get a bucket of shit keep'em moist and watch'em grow
cerveza420
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no idea, check out shroomery.org..........but the spores are cheap and will make alot of shrooms
Those are very potent mushrooms!
Don't go B+, it's alright, but there are better strains for different areas.
To start off you can buy a syringe or spore print offline, after that, you'll no longer need to buy them. Yields are almost always very small, unless you can get a casing or two flushing every week, than it's worth it.
What the hell kind of mix did you use? Manure+verm+BRF? It sounds like you got a few different methods confused on how to do it.
Manure is typically used in bulk growing in their own little climate controlled boxes for the most part. And Verm mixed with Brown rice flour is typically only used in PF cakes. You really made those more difficult than it should have been.
The dry layer of Verm, I'm assuming you're talking about the dry layer that should go on top of cakes? If so, it isn't really that necessary, you can use a bit of tyvek, or a coffee filter even at the top with the lid screwed over it. But even if it wasn't used, you really should be fine.
Go to a health store or organic store and buy some Rye grain/Rye berries, that's all you're going to need for the first step of growing. Buy a bag of Vermiculite and a bag of Peat moss or even coco coir, you will use this to make a casing layer.
Growing mushrooms is a few step process. Here's a basic run down.
Rinse your rye in the jars the night before you're going to sterlize.
Than what you have to do is sterlize, which includes pressure cooking the jars with the substrate in it.
Wait a few hours for jars to cool, and inoculate somewhere VERY STERILE! This is the one point where things can go really wrong, and pretty much the only point where you can mess up bad enough so you won't yield anything. IF you mess up anywhere else really, it's not a big deal, you may just grow smaller mushrooms or you may grow less, but messing up at this point you can contaminate.
Once inoculated they need to go into a dark incubator at 76-86 degrees (aim for 84). After 2 weeks or so of waiting all the rye should be white with mycellium growth. That's when you'll move on to casing.
Mix the peat moss and verm 50/50, with water too so it's wet. Sterilize this (you can microwave for 6 minutes or so) and wait for it to cool down in room temp. Get an aluminum foil pan, size can be any, depending on how much colonized substrate you're working with. For instance, let's say you're using Quart jars. Get a lasagna pan, fill the bottom with 1/2 the depth of the amount of colonized substrate you'd have. Put colonized substrate out over that than another layer about the same depth on top of the colonized substrate.
Once that is complete, put aluminum foil over the top, put it back into the incubator for two days. DO NOT let the white mycellium take over the top, if there's a shit load of white on top, it means the mycellium overlayed and you won't get any growth.
After the two days, put the pan, foil off of it into a terrarium.
Terrarium requirements: 99% humidity, 2 hours of light from any type of source(NO GROW LIGHTS NOTHING TOO BRIGHT THIS ISN'T A PLANT IT DOESN'T RELY ON PHOTOSYNTHESIS) and they need fresh air exchange.
You can build a very nice terrarium for less than 100 bucs out of a Martha Stewart clear closet with a cool mist humidifier and some types of shelves.
After about a week, you'll see pins, once it pins, they grow FAST! 3-5 days you'll have mature mushrooms.
Pick these, and air dry, DO NOT USE HEAT IT DESTROYS PSCILOCIBIN!
So, a basic run through, go to shroomery for more info, tired of typing.
Don't go B+, it's alright, but there are better strains for different areas.
To start off you can buy a syringe or spore print offline, after that, you'll no longer need to buy them. Yields are almost always very small, unless you can get a casing or two flushing every week, than it's worth it.
What the hell kind of mix did you use? Manure+verm+BRF? It sounds like you got a few different methods confused on how to do it.
Manure is typically used in bulk growing in their own little climate controlled boxes for the most part. And Verm mixed with Brown rice flour is typically only used in PF cakes. You really made those more difficult than it should have been.
The dry layer of Verm, I'm assuming you're talking about the dry layer that should go on top of cakes? If so, it isn't really that necessary, you can use a bit of tyvek, or a coffee filter even at the top with the lid screwed over it. But even if it wasn't used, you really should be fine.
Go to a health store or organic store and buy some Rye grain/Rye berries, that's all you're going to need for the first step of growing. Buy a bag of Vermiculite and a bag of Peat moss or even coco coir, you will use this to make a casing layer.
Growing mushrooms is a few step process. Here's a basic run down.
Rinse your rye in the jars the night before you're going to sterlize.
Than what you have to do is sterlize, which includes pressure cooking the jars with the substrate in it.
Wait a few hours for jars to cool, and inoculate somewhere VERY STERILE! This is the one point where things can go really wrong, and pretty much the only point where you can mess up bad enough so you won't yield anything. IF you mess up anywhere else really, it's not a big deal, you may just grow smaller mushrooms or you may grow less, but messing up at this point you can contaminate.
Once inoculated they need to go into a dark incubator at 76-86 degrees (aim for 84). After 2 weeks or so of waiting all the rye should be white with mycellium growth. That's when you'll move on to casing.
Mix the peat moss and verm 50/50, with water too so it's wet. Sterilize this (you can microwave for 6 minutes or so) and wait for it to cool down in room temp. Get an aluminum foil pan, size can be any, depending on how much colonized substrate you're working with. For instance, let's say you're using Quart jars. Get a lasagna pan, fill the bottom with 1/2 the depth of the amount of colonized substrate you'd have. Put colonized substrate out over that than another layer about the same depth on top of the colonized substrate.
Once that is complete, put aluminum foil over the top, put it back into the incubator for two days. DO NOT let the white mycellium take over the top, if there's a shit load of white on top, it means the mycellium overlayed and you won't get any growth.
After the two days, put the pan, foil off of it into a terrarium.
Terrarium requirements: 99% humidity, 2 hours of light from any type of source(NO GROW LIGHTS NOTHING TOO BRIGHT THIS ISN'T A PLANT IT DOESN'T RELY ON PHOTOSYNTHESIS) and they need fresh air exchange.
You can build a very nice terrarium for less than 100 bucs out of a Martha Stewart clear closet with a cool mist humidifier and some types of shelves.
After about a week, you'll see pins, once it pins, they grow FAST! 3-5 days you'll have mature mushrooms.
Pick these, and air dry, DO NOT USE HEAT IT DESTROYS PSCILOCIBIN!
So, a basic run through, go to shroomery for more info, tired of typing.
columbinetoker17
Active Member
Can you put like miracle grow on shrooms? someone told me you could but it sounds like a load of shit if someone knows please tell me.
No, mushrooms are NOT plants.
Miracle grow, if anything, will either contaminate them, or kill them.
You don't need to put ANYTHING on these, you won't even need to water them or anything, you just let a tray sit with the humidity way up, an occasional dim light source on for about 2 hours a day, and fresh air exchange.
Miracle grow, if anything, will either contaminate them, or kill them.
You don't need to put ANYTHING on these, you won't even need to water them or anything, you just let a tray sit with the humidity way up, an occasional dim light source on for about 2 hours a day, and fresh air exchange.
columbinetoker17
Active Member
Thanks dude
mrXgreenthumbX
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if i put a bucket of fresh cow shit in a fruiting chamber, will it grow?
could i pull off growing mushrooms by just getting some cow shit?
i mean if they grow in feilds off it, why not a bucket?
could i pull off growing mushrooms by just getting some cow shit?
i mean if they grow in feilds off it, why not a bucket?
tsdriles06
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cuz in a feild there is a lot of moister from morning dew witch is very important for them and the shit might not even have spores in it
tsdriles06
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better off useing the PF tek
Ethnobotanist
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There are far superior ways to grow than the PF Tek, but you're correct- it's the best for beginners. Almost fool proof if one is COMPLETELY sterile.
~Ethno
mrXgreenthumbX
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yeahh, good point, mine as well just pick them from the feild when there ready.
but ive got a couplr questions about that.
ive got a cowfeild about a mile away from me, everytime i go past it i cant see things coming out of the shit, looks like mushrooms but,im not sure.
how do i pick them at night? cuz the farmer wouldnt be happy about me doing that.
but i cant see at night.
a flashnight maybe?
i dont know, haha
but ive got a couplr questions about that.
ive got a cowfeild about a mile away from me, everytime i go past it i cant see things coming out of the shit, looks like mushrooms but,im not sure.
how do i pick them at night? cuz the farmer wouldnt be happy about me doing that.
but i cant see at night.
a flashnight maybe?
i dont know, haha
columbinetoker17
Active Member
you can go to a field of cow shit and make sure its oat or grain fed cows...get a few piles of shit early morning of course (dew and humidity) that has shrooms growing in it and just experiment a little....for some reason though when i was studying where they grow better in the shit it was in the woods...lol go figure?
mrXgreenthumbX
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haha yeah, so basically they thrive in shit.
whats in the shit that they live off of?
whats in the shit that they live off of?