SHOW OFF YOUR BLURPLE LIGHT! Purple/Magenta LED Lights.

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GrowUrOwnDank

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Its too bad there area so many shitty purple light panels out there! gives a bad name to the ones that are decent!
I consider Blurple a choice. not trying to pump it. I started with CFL for my first couple of grows. Worked good no doubt. Had to fight heat issues though. I was pushing 260 actual watts of CFL in a small cab. They make serious heat.

Then I bought the older Blurple. 45 3 Watt bulbs. It did fine, but eventually I added a 65 Watt CFL for supplemental to the grow. Then I bought Blurple 2. It has 60 3 Watt Bulbs.

Now I've got a 150 HID. Will def cause heat issues in my small cab.

So here is my set up. I use CFL the first 2-3 weeks. <20 up to 65 Watts. HPS at 3 weeks to a month or whatever. And add Blurple when I think the plant(s) might use it.

My theory is, if you are throwing all these spectrums at a plant from different light sources, the plant is getting what it needs from somewhere.

Most autos prefer 18-6 or that seems to be the most popular lighting regimen. I'm all about figuring out how to save on elec, although the costs for me are negligible. It's a green thing I guess. Anyway, I have two timers. What I would like to do in the future is break up the time between the different lights. So I have 150 Watts HID and approx. 200(actual wattage used) by my 2 Blurples.

So.... What I am thinking is, maybe firing up the old Blurples at lights on along with HID. Run the HPS fr several hours and then off for a couple. Do that throughout the 18 hour lights on period with the Blurples on throughout the 18 hours? I dunno man. It makes sense to me anyway. And save a few Watts. Of course, I'm a micro grower so what works for me may not work for @churchhaze and his 20 plants or whatever. At the end of the day. Blurple is another choice.
 

mc130p

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Blurple is a choice, but not a good choice. I'd go HPS or CMH before I ever touch another purple panel. I'll never recommend a purple panel, and I completely disagree when I see people recommending them. There is nothing a purple panel can do that a COB can't do better. People are handicapping themselves with these things, and then they get emotionally invested in their substantial physical investment into shitty, sub-par lights. Of course they "work," but they don't work well.
 

GFS_Nic

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Hi,

I think the COBs can achieve good results in terms of quality, i'm not so sure about the yield. I see some people declaring that they managed to achieve more than 1.4gpw with them... Sorry but i am a little bit sceptical, nothing personal but it is in my nature.
I prefere to experience it myself or see it with my own eyes. I've saw what blurple can do, i did it myself, it wasn't great but it was very real. I personnaly invest more than 600€ into my DIY COB panel, so i really hope that they will do the trick.
 

alesh

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Hi,

I think the COBs can achieve good results in terms of quality, i'm not so sure about the yield. I see some people declaring that they managed to achieve more than 1.4gpw with them... Sorry but i am a little bit sceptical, nothing personal but it is in my nature.
I prefere to experience it myself or see it with my own eyes. I've saw what blurple can do, i did it myself, it wasn't great but it was very real. I personnaly invest more than 600€ into my DIY COB panel, so i really hope that they will do the trick.
COBs will deliver don't worry. High quality purple panels do the trick, too, but they're simply much more expensive than anything COB-based.
 

EfficientWatt

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Hi there,

I quite like my blurples, just crazy how they went from top notch 2 years ago, to close to obsolete today ...

Been running these ISled custom made Blurples + white (1/3 are Whites actually) for about 2 years now, (Osram Oslons and a couple of crees). 456W (@Plug) in a 4'x4'.

They still beat HPS in terms of light spread, heat emitted/exhaust needed, quality/terpines/frost, density, and produce at least as much, if not a little more. Try putting a 400W HPS in a 4x4 ..

I will switch to COBs in fall tho, I might even keep using them with cobs, as they have a lot of blue and 660, which could complement 3000K's well.

Mine we're expensive, but I don't think I got burned like others. Always got over 0.8g/W, and have switched from a dimmed 1400m3/h exhaust to a 420m3/h, dimmed to 50% 280W savings on exhaust !

I've been able to grow during hot months without ever going above 27 °c, same exhaust as in winter.

EDIT : Pics have been white balanced, but they are original blurples ;)
Some pics => http://imgur.com/a/DMDUm#0

HPS will generate less heat than cheap chinese blurple units just because the efficiency is higher. That means you can get away with dissipating less watts of electric power to get the same amount of watts in PAR. The idea that you will generate less heat with a less efficient lamp is breaking the first law of thermodynamics.
I'm not 100% with you on this ... (but I'm being a bit of a PITA I'll admit !)

The big spike HPS has at 750-780 is light, but it's also heat. It's not inefficiency so to speak, although we would be better off without it ... ;)
 
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Humanrob

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Blurple VS 1000 Watt HPS with time lapse....
At the end of the day. Blurple does fine. That's all I gotta say bout dat.

I didn't see anything there that talked about the final weight from each test batch? And what about the flavor, bud density, and the high? Anecdotally people have mentioned that they thought their LED grows tasted different than their HPS ones, but I don't recall anyone doing a side by side taste test.
 

GrowUrOwnDank

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I didn't see anything there that talked about the final weight from each test batch? And what about the flavor, bud density, and the high? Anecdotally people have mentioned that they thought their LED grows tasted different than their HPS ones, but I don't recall anyone doing a side by side taste test.
I never said Blurple was the best producer. I said they grow great weed. Flavors? Aroma? They do just fine. I use quality genes so I get that anyway. I'm going for quality of desired effect. This thread wasn't started to argue which is better. It was started to show that Blurple is efficient and grows quite dank bud. I will say this for HPS. I used the HPS and Blirple together for my last run, and I think I got the tightest bus ever. But, also switched over to Lucas Formula and different nutes. So, not scientific......

Finally. I think li have decided that I will never go back to a single type of light. I will probably always use a combination. Right now the combo is CFL when they are babies and HPS + Blurple for supplemental. I've been watching the COB dudes for a long while now. I'm pretty sure I am gonna build one of those eventually. Probably <100 watt.

It's all good bro. Lights? Hell I love el all! And no matter what type light you are using, as long as you are satisfied with the results! GO FOR IT BRO! It's all good. :bigjoint:
 

Greengenes707

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NASA also ditched R/B for white based...along with Stanford, and the USDA
Even the best and most powerful burples don't give the yields and plants responses that a full spectrum white based light does.
They do have a effect to make it look to humans like they are "covering"...but it's just an illustion.
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As well as test lower potency than white based ...read the PDF's attached.
 

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doz

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Hi,

I think the COBs can achieve good results in terms of quality, i'm not so sure about the yield. I see some people declaring that they managed to achieve more than 1.4gpw with them... Sorry but i am a little bit sceptical, nothing personal but it is in my nature.
I prefere to experience it myself or see it with my own eyes. I've saw what blurple can do, i did it myself, it wasn't great but it was very real. I personnaly invest more than 600€ into my DIY COB panel, so i really hope that they will do the trick.
I grew 1.21g/w with 400w of CXB3070. I fully believe that with CO2 + utilizing all 5 gallon pots, that I can achieve 1.4g/w. This last grow, I wanted to see how pot size effected growth with the same amount of veg time. Utilizing 2 gallon pots vs. 5 gallon pots was a tremendous difference. I think if I utilized all 5 gallons, I would have easily hit 1.4g/w. I will be running the same strain again to test this theory.

I can tell you though, without a doubt, that LED can grow just as much as HPS with less wattage. I yielded 487g with 400w (and I know I can improve) vs. 588g with 1000w of HPS. I also believe that if you run equal wattage, you will yield much higher with LED. This is not 420mag where we are trying to sell a product here, we are growers just like you who are trying to achieve the best results. We are not profiting by telling you how great COBS are, we are just passing along our knowledge. Ive used a "blurple" light and HPS. Now, after growing 1 cycle with CXB3070s, I am completely sold and believe without a doubt that they are THE solution for smaller areas (and large commercial grows once the cost comes down).
 

Humanrob

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I never said Blurple was the best producer. I said they grow great weed. Flavors? Aroma? They do just fine. I use quality genes so I get that anyway. I'm going for quality of desired effect. This thread wasn't started to argue which is better. It was started to show that Blurple is efficient and grows quite dank bud. I will say this for HPS. I used the HPS and Blirple together for my last run, and I think I got the tightest bus ever. But, also switched over to Lucas Formula and different nutes. So, not scientific......

Finally. I think li have decided that I will never go back to a single type of light. I will probably always use a combination. Right now the combo is CFL when they are babies and HPS + Blurple for supplemental. I've been watching the COB dudes for a long while now. I'm pretty sure I am gonna build one of those eventually. Probably <100 watt.

It's all good bro. Lights? Hell I love el all! And no matter what type light you are using, as long as you are satisfied with the results! GO FOR IT BRO! It's all good. :bigjoint:
Sorry, I wasn't clear -- I was not trying to compare them in terms of finding a definitive "best". I'm in the small space heat-sensitive grow category myself, and switched from CFLs to LEDs. I will probably never use an HPS, but since its been the benchmark for a while, its a good reference for other types of lights. Because of that I was wondering what a person can expect from (burple, in this case) LEDs compared to the venerable HPS lights, just in terms of relative potentials.

I currently have a cheap burple light in one small space, and a cob in another, and since I have a shit ton of CFLs left over from previous grows I will supplement both rooms with CFLs. I wholeheartedly agree in mixing lighting, but that's also why I can't post pics in light specific threads anymore, I'm all about blending now.
 
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GrowUrOwnDank

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@Greengenes707 @doz @REALSTYLES

Don't care. I grow dank for a few dimes a gram. My smoke is so dank it absolutely blows me away. I use Blurple. I think they look cool. I think I will go with my own experience over some crap I read on the Internet.


I really do value all of your contributions. :hump:
 

GFS_Nic

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Hi,

@Greengenes707 : Thanks for all the datas.

@doz : Trust me i would like to believe you just like that but 20+ years of internet make me a very sceptical guy even if i understand that you don't try to sell me anything. Anyways, i have faith in the progress of technology, i've already made my first DIY project with Vero29, i'm testing it right now.

@REALSTYLES : Yeah your video was pretty fun to watch but it's not the same thing, i wouldn't compare my Hans panel with a Mars light, it's a bit insulting for Hans. ;)
 

GrowUrOwnDank

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Sorry, I wasn't clear -- I was not trying to compare them in terms of finding a definitive "best". I'm in the small space heat-sensitive grow category myself, and switched from CFLs to LEDs. I will probably never use an HPS, but since its been the benchmark for a while, its a good reference for other types of lights. Because of that I was wondering what a person can expect from (burple, in this case) LEDs compared to the venerable HPS lights, just in terms of relative potentials.

I currently have a cheap burple light in one small space, and a cob in another, and since I have a shit ton of CFLs left over from previous grows I will supplement both rooms with CFLs. I wholeheartedly agree in mixing lighting, but that's also whey I can't post pics in light specific threads anymore, I'm all about blending now.
Yeah man I've literally tried them all. Including some little induction thing I bought from a hydro shop. I personally think that the whole mine against yours on the Trollitup is BS. Everybody thinks they got the best set up and skillz and growing can only be done one way. I've done soil, even all MG, drip hydro, now I do Hempy simply because it's so cheap and easy. And I get fantastic results. I've used CFL, Blurple, Induction and HPS. It all works great. And I use all of the light methods above minus the induction(broke it) in some kind of combination.

But, I want mine a certain way. I want a small plant, auto or photo(almost from seed). I want top shelf smoke. I want it as fast as possible without sacrificing quality. I want it easy, don't want to have to mess with it everyday. To be honest with you, I get those results with Hempy and Lucss formula. You only need 3 chemicals and a PH meter. Perlite and a Hempy bucket can probably be done for $10-$15. I can't remember because I have used my stuff over and over so many times the cost is negligible at this point. I even put my seedlings in the window sill, lol. How cheap and effective is that?

At the end of the day. Don't matter what anyone else may like the best. I like my Blurple and I'm damn proud of it!

LONG LIVE THE BLURPLE!
 

REALSTYLES

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@Greengenes707 @doz @REALSTYLES

Don't care. I grow dank for a few dimes a gram. My smoke is so dank it absolutely blows me away. I use Blurple. I think they look cool. I think I will go with my own experience over some crap I read on the Internet.


I really do value all of your contributions. :hump:
I was in denial just like you. I don't know how well you grow are your expectations of the quality or yield but I do and as for you saying you don't care you really do. I'm a Gargoyle and you don't want me ruin this thread with my panels do you?
 

REALSTYLES

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Hi,

@Greengenes707 : Thanks for all the datas.

@doz : Trust me i would like to believe you just like that but 20+ years of internet make me a very sceptical guy even if i understand that you don't try to sell me anything. Anyways, i have faith in the progress of technology, i've already made my first DIY project with Vero29, i'm testing it right now.

@REALSTYLES : Yeah your video was pretty fun to watch but it's not the same thing, i wouldn't compare my Hans panel with a Mars light, it's a bit insulting for Hans. ;)
You are right but I have a feeling his is not lol.
 
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