Show Me What You Got LST?

mcpurple

mcpurple

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jdizzle22 said:
Actually good LED panels grow better than HPS and its definitely been proven even on these forums (look up Irishboy for starters). That said, LED has its own pros and cons to HID (80% less heat per watt but might be too cold for winter, more growing power per watt (but much more expensive in upfront costs for the panel), etc etc. Most LED companies still make crappy lights, but there are panels out there that are definitely better than MH/HPS (I don't know how LED compares to plasma or other exotic HIDs)

Hey BekinBud nice pull! The biggest yield I've ever gotten was from a plant that was just as colorful :P
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i have seen his grows, and in fact that is the only led grow i was impressed by and i think that is due to his experience and not the light. i dont think it can really be proven for fact that they are better just opinions really ive heard so much more bad about them then good as well. if they were really that grow dont you think the big time growers would use them? so why dont they? cuz hps/mh are proven to produce great big buds and plants.
please dont take this as a calling for an argument on this either just p[uttin my opinion down like you are and that is all good with me.

back to the lst
 
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jdizzle22

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mcpurple said:
i have seen his grows, and in fact that is the only led grow i was impressed by and i think that is due to his experience and not the light. i dont think it can really be proven for fact that they are better just opinions really ive heard so much more bad about them then good as well. if they were really that grow dont you think the big time growers would use them? so why dont they? cuz hps/mh are proven to produce great big buds and plants.
please dont take this as a calling for an argument on this either just p[uttin my opinion down like you are and that is all good with me.

back to the lst
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Because they are proven that is why, you are right! There have been too many crappy LED companies selling panels out there which has made buyer confidence low. There are some full scale LED production grows in Cali that are featured here, but I can't remember which one was which. I'll admit LED >=HID for the last year or so, and with the initial costs being so high that is why people don't invest on a large scale. Why put $2-4 per watt into LED when you could get it way cheaper with HID if theres a risk you will get busted before the LED pays for itself in savings? There is a lot more than irishboy out there, 3-4 different people were kicking ass with GLH LED over at 420 mag. And I've seen plenty of LED grows that were at least as impressive as HPS.

So I was LST my plants today pics in a moment, gotta get the best one I can of my most impressive LST/LED plant :P

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mcpurple

mcpurple

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im just a fan of what works and what has been working best for the last 15 years or more.
even the guys at our hydro shops here dont even carry led any more cuz they flat out dont like them.

i noticed you mentioned a plasma light, i have heard of these and seen a few videos on these and they look great if they can work out the small kinks. have you seen a grow with plasma? if so let me get the link so i can check it out
 
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jdizzle22

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mcpurple said:
im just a fan of what works and what has been working best for the last 15 years or more.
even the guys at our hydro shops here dont even carry led any more cuz they flat out dont like them.

i noticed you mentioned a plasma light, i have heard of these and seen a few videos on these and they look great if they can work out the small kinks. have you seen a grow with plasma? if so let me get the link so i can check it out
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I know dude, thats because the store doesn't know which LED companies are good and which are bad, but thats going to change a lot this year because it seems that many are finally updating their outdated LED tech. Know I don't know of any experimental HID grows, I know LED can be as good as MH/HPS but I don't know much about plasma and some of those other exotic HIDs (some which aren't exactly ready for most to grow with). I have no idea what the pros/cons of growing lights aside from LED/MH/HPS

Got my pics up, lets see some of yours! *I'm not making it a competition haha just want to keep some LST talk in each post ;)

PS: I haven't done any training to that plant other than tieing down different parts with kite string, .8 gallon air pot for those curious*
PSS: And I really don't mean to say LED is better than HID because it isn't. I mean to say each has its pros and cons, but one can grow as well or better than HID with the right LED panel and the same amount of electricity
 
mcpurple

mcpurple

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just now saw you pics of your plants, they look good man, nice and green and bent over. i like you method of lst with those air pots, you just got the stick poking in one of the holes and then you tie down to that right?

and i would love to show my pics off of plants but i dont have any beside veggies, i have not grown now for about a year and it sucks.
i have a few pics of my last grow though that was lst.

and i will admit theri is some much better work in this thread then mine. i started this thread to also get some info i can use and to learn from
 
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jdizzle22

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mcpurple said:
just now saw you pics of your plants, they look good man, nice and green and bent over. i like you method of lst with those air pots, you just got the stick poking in one of the holes and then you tie down to that right?

and i would love to show my pics off of plants but i dont have any beside veggies, i have not grown now for about a year and it sucks.
i have a few pics of my last grow though that was lst.

and i will admit theri is some much better work in this thread then mine. i started this thread to also get some info i can use and to learn from
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Yeah airpots are really cool for LST, I stuck a bamboo stick through each one. So not only can you just poke sticks into the holes, you also have these little green screw things that hold the pot together (they can unwrap if you remove the screws, each pot only needs 1-2). So not only can you use the sticks, but you can add screws and just loop your string around that too if you don't want to bother with knotting it to a stick! To help secure the bambo sticks on each end of the pot they poke out of I looped a string and pulled it very tight and then wrapped the other end around one of the screws (to help keep the bamboo stick from sliding either way under the force of LST strings :P )
 
HottFuzz

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ok heres mine. bag seed, not sure how long i vegged (horrible at keeping notes, working on it tho). started flowering 4/22/11, just started showing hairs recently so a little slower than i had hoped. vegged under 108w of cfl's, flowering under 188w of cfl's. growing in a u-haul "shorty wardrobe" using organic ferts.

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jdizzle22

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HottFuzz said:
hey thanks purple, yea those pots are bathroom trash cans from the dollar tree for a buck.
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I thought they were clothes hampers :P If you guys think airpots are expensive try growers-inc.com that is where I got mine, they had the best prices and shipping rates for US customers (at least a year ago when I bought mine)
 
Snafu1236

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Yeah, you dont necessarily ever need to trim.. naturalist growers say to leave the plant be. other growers swear it increases yield. others say it stresses the plant and slows down the life process.

Personally, I dont listen to anyone except my experience. IME, I do a minimal lollipopping solely bc it makes watering so much easier bc I dont have to get around the excess branches. I also have understood through my experience that the least amount of stress the better, and the less pruning I do the faster the plant grows.

I also harvest mature buds first and then open up undergrowth for light penetration....if I pruned all that undergrowth I would effectivly lose about 30% of my average yield.

LST is the way to go.
 
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jdizzle22

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Snafu1236 said:
Yeah, you dont necessarily ever need to trim.. naturalist growers say to leave the plant be. other growers swear it increases yield. others say it stresses the plant and slows down the life process.

Personally, I dont listen to anyone except my experience. IME, I do a minimal lollipopping solely bc it makes watering so much easier bc I dont have to get around the excess branches. I also have understood through my experience that the least amount of stress the better, and the less pruning I do the faster the plant grows.

I also harvest mature buds first and then open up undergrowth for light penetration....if I pruned all that undergrowth I would effectivly lose about 30% of my average yield.

LST is the way to go.
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Yeah personally I don't start pulling leaves unless they are always in my way when I water, or they are degrading for whatever reason. LST FTW :P
 
Shwagbag

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I am pruning the shit right out of the Ice I just put into flower. I felt like I did a great job with my canopy control on my last couple plants but still ended up with waaaaay too much popcorn. I am letting them finish another week or two but I would prefer to have no popcorn at all. Getting my feet wet with some pruning to see how it goes.
 
mcpurple

mcpurple

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why no pop corn? i see it as better to have the popcorn nugs for a head stash or to make hash then to have none at all.
 
mcpurple

mcpurple

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looking really good jdizzle, i really like the under neath shots where you can see the LED lights showing through.
and just out of curiosity is your name justin? you dont have to answer or you can pm me about it. its just i know some one who gos by the same name
 
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