Should you trim off fan leaves? im in week six of flowering

I use advanced nutes and have always took off fan leaves hitting them with some revive and never noticed any prob. But im into week 6 flowering and some bud sites arent getting any light i was about to do some trimmimg but read some posts that i should not do it. no one has posted anything about helping the plant with stress or shock while trimming:idea:(like using revive, no shock) any thoughts or comments from anyone would help:leaf:
 

jordan293

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u could do it just don't go overboard just the ones blocking light, but even then it could be to late, by week 6 they're pretty much developed unless you have a long flowering plant
 

massah

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I personally think pulling a few fan leaves off a plant won't hurt it or cause enough stress to hermi...If its going to hermi its going to hermi based on its genetics, but I don't feel a little stress from clipping a few leaves is going to hurt anything...now if you stress the shit out of it by bending all the branches around, cutting off large chunks of the plant...leave fan blowing on it 24/7 straight on it...then yeah that'll probably bring out hermi conditions...

I am also a person who trims off lower buds that are not getting any light even while in flowering...no need in keeping them around when they wont produce shit to begin with :)
 

SirLancelot

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NO WAY DUDE! ok a few here and there that are unhealthy or ginormous are ok to take off. But you realize the plant uses photosynthesis to create the energy it needs to build nice strong buds. That energy is being drawn from your solar panels (leaves) to power your factory (nugs). Your nugs don't need sunlight your leaves do. the nugs are just the fruit. WHenever you grow strawberries or tomatoes, pumpkins, melons, or any other fruit or veggie you don't trim back leaves so the fruit gets sunlight because it's not needed.
The more leaves the better.
 

SirLancelot

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side note: if you need ventilation through the plant it can help to clip 1 or two. But in nature fruit normally grows under the leaves so they are protected from direct sunlight and scorching the fruit. I notice this every year in my veggie garden with my squash, pumpkins, peas, tomatoes etc... Not saying in an indoor setting you need to worry about this much but thought I would let ya know.
 

massah

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side note: if you need ventilation through the plant it can help to clip 1 or two. But in nature fruit normally grows under the leaves so they are protected from direct sunlight and scorching the fruit. I notice this every year in my veggie garden with my squash, pumpkins, peas, tomatoes etc... Not saying in an indoor setting you need to worry about this much but thought I would let ya know.
Flowers != Fruit ;)

Weed makes flowers not fruits...a big difference :D

Also there are usually shittons of "sugar leaves" providing the photosynthesis power for the flowers themselves :)
 

SirLancelot

Active Member
but wouldn't your plant be getting more sunlight on big fan leaves as opposed to small sugar leaves, I don't think they add up to the surface space as fan leaves.
Regardless the point is you get more energy with the more leaves you have.

It might be a flower I don't know... when I look up the definition of a flower it doesn't seem to match in my eyes though...

A flower, sometimes known as a bloom or blossom, is the reproductive structure found in flowering plants (plants of the division Magnoliophyta, also called angiosperms). The biological function of a flower is to effect reproduction, usually by providing a mechanism for the union of sperm with eggs. Flowers may facilitate outcrossing (fusion of sperm and eggs from different individuals in a population) or allow selfing (fusion of sperm and egg from the same flower). Some flowers produce diaspores without fertilization (parthenocarpy). Flowers contain sporangia and are the site where gametophytes develop. Flowers give rise to fruit and seeds.


I call it a fruit because of the Definition of Fruit in my Biology book.
In broad terms, a fruit is a structure of a plant that contains its seeds, Fungus that produces spores is also called a fruiting body." but as it explains the term has different meanings dependent on the context. I guess I was out of context... Happy growings
Peace
 

francy420

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Ah the age old growers debate. To cut, or not to cut fan leaves. All very good info SirLancelot, but I think this goes both ways. In my opinion the only way to definately say is to have done it both ways with a particular strain. I believe it is strain, and environmentally dependent. I have a strain that I take lots of leaves throughout the whole life of the plant, while I have another strain that I don't touch. Having grown both strains both ways, I was able to see which did better in which sircumstance. It's not really that i get MORE bud, but I get BETTER bud when I trim. Just what years of practice have shown me. Gotta find out for yourself.
 

massah

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Ah the age old growers debate. To cut, or not to cut fan leaves. All very good info SirLancelot, but I think this goes both ways. In my opinion the only way to definately say is to have done it both ways with a particular strain. I believe it is strain, and environmentally dependent. I have a strain that I take lots of leaves throughout the whole life of the plant, while I have another strain that I don't touch. Having grown both strains both ways, I was able to see which did better in which sircumstance. It's not really that i get MORE bud, but I get BETTER bud when I trim. Just what years of practice have shown me. Gotta find out for yourself.
I completely agree...there is a balance of things and its all strain and pheno dependent...some plants respond better to trimming than others...its a simple fact of nature...it's why people continue to experiment with their plants to get the largest yield of flowers and the most amount of cannabinoids :)
 

massah

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touche and what works best for me certainly doesn't work the best for everyone else.
BINGO! Right on the money...the only things we can help people with on this forum is to guide them in the right directions...regardless of what nutrient manufacturers say on their bottles as to what to give them and when...its all down to the genetics of what you are growing and your environment...so many different techniques and training methods...so many different mediums and nutrient combinations...it just all boils down to finding what works for you and sticking to it :)
 
i've heard later in flowering, if you have a good percent of the fan leaves cut off (mostly due to them being dead not cutting really healthy ones) that takes away alot of where the plants photosynthesis happens, which is where the sugars are made for energy. If you add some amount of sugar to the plants water it stimulates that and helps get the plant the energy it needs to grow the buds. my friend that grows well told me about it. im going to try this with my plant probably ill see how it works! anyone else heard of doing this?
 

Mjmajik

Member
Hi all I DO NOT take clippings of leaves. Now I have my own problem if any1 can help, I'm in week 3 of flower 12/12 BUT this mornin I went to take her out and the Fuckers light was on all night its only a cfl 15w but I heard interruption in darkness will Fuckers them what's the score should I put it away in dark for the day? Its outdoor grown and brought inside for force flower
Is this gonna stress ship out of it.
 

thump easy

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ya man start thining it out.. for shure bottom buds will swell if the light hits them but leave the first three water leafs form the top... youll see swollen if your nutes are corect..
 
Cut them leaves off. I cut the fan leaves off 3-4 days before harvest. Big difference in the lower bud. Remember lower buds are just not as good. That's the way it is. At least for me. I turn the lowers into cooking oil.
 
Hi all I DO NOT take clippings of leaves. Now I have my own problem if any1 can help, I'm in week 3 of flower 12/12 BUT this mornin I went to take her out and the Fuckers light was on all night its only a cfl 15w but I heard interruption in darkness will Fuckers them what's the score should I put it away in dark for the day? Its outdoor grown and brought inside for force flower
Is this gonna stress ship out of it.
DONT HIJACK A PEOPLES THREAD WITH YOUR CFL BULLSHIT! GO TO THE NEWBIE PAGE
:clap::hump::-P
 

blacksun

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You bumped a 5 month old topic to say that to a guy who hasn't even posted on this site since he created his account in February?

He probably doesn't even remember he posted here let alone his username and password to the site.

But hey! You got him!
 

tagteam

Member
I have 6 nine week old diesels and I just trimmed the fan's. I have lots of buds in a really small 4 X 4 tent and I was worried about how much light the buds get.
Do you cut all or just the big ones?
I'm a newbie and i'm kinda freaking out a bit lol
 

tropicalcannabispatient

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Bad info sirlancealot 1st of all who told u that buds are fruit? They are flowers!! Second of all buds DO absorb sunlight and photo the sunlight into energy for the plant after the 3rd or 4th week of flower BAD INFO DUDE!!! Dont repeat what u hear read read and read and do experiments but dont talk with out prove or sense!!!
 
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