Should You Have To Be Licensed

In order to drive a car you need a license.
In order to watch the tv, you need a television license.
In order to get married you need a license.
In order to sell alcohol you need a license.

Do you think that you should need a license in order to be allowed to have children

Well you need to pass tests in order to become a driver amongst many other things.

So why not this

I have to say no as well. What is this red China?

Nice avatar by the way greenthumb

i say no. to governmental restrictions of any sort.

if im to assume that the government will always be around fucking with ppls lives tho, i say hell yes. too many stupid people, not enough creativity. it would never happen tho, the government relies on a dull herd to carry it.

I'm not just talking about dumb people not being allowed to breed, I'm talking about the ones that just shouldnt have had kids ever.

It's so easy to create a life, for some people its equally easy to ruin it too.

just thought of something. adoption.

"On applying to adopt, the potential adoptive parent(s) will generally be assessed for suitability. This can take the form of a home study, interviews, and financial, medical and criminal record checks. In some jurisdictions, such studies must be carried out by an independent or state authority, while in others, they can be carried out by the adoption agency itself. A pre-adoption course may also be required." Wikipedia

theres gotta be some constitutions broken in this. why do adoptive parents have to be assessed while biological parents dont?

i think it has something to do with blame. thats what most our laws are about, not justice or equality, our laws are about blame. if a kids life gets fucked up because an agency hands them over to sick ppl, the agency gets blamed. but if a kids life gets fucked up by their biological parents nobody could give two shits.

Without the natural parents there is no life. Adoptive parents could NEVER hold the same connection to a child that it's natural parents could.

I was in kids homes and I always refused fostering and adoption, there was no way I was going to live with a bunch of wierdo's... besides I quite liked being my own boss.

skunkushybrid said:

Without the natural parents there is no life. Adoptive parents could NEVER hold the same connection to a child that it's natural parents could.

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I disagree with that statement.

If a child is born into say a single mother family, the mother is an alcoholic has had problems and really didnt want to be pregnant and resents the baby for making daddy leave.

In this situation would it be better for the baby to stay with the mother who doesnt want the child even though its biological or would it be better for it to be put up for adoption and go to a loving home that has been checked out, these people are desperate to have children and start a family but they havent been able to have their own.

To say adoptive parents could never have a stronger bond than biological is false. Ok in some cases the biological parent is going to be the better option, but you have to accept that in others its going to be better for the health and development of the child to go somewhere where it will be cherished.

Checked out?

You're assuming that people are fine once they've been checked out? You're also assuming that her resentment isn't part of a depressive stage due to all the stress she's under and she just needs a little help, not her child taken away from her.

What about the child?

OK, let's go one step further and say that people not earning a high enough wage shouldn't be eligible to have kids. That way the kid gets a decent upbringing rather than being brought into a life of drudgery.

Nobody can judge other people.

I'm not saying lets create a list of people who cant have children, I'm saying there is some people that just shouldnt have been allowed to in the first place

i take back the stupid ppl/creativity statement from before. there should be some type of maturity test. the ability and want to keep the wellbeing of a child to the same level as ur own. tip it in either direction and its not good for the kid.

I'm havent said lets do it on money or wealth, because even if they had money it wouldnt mean they would be great parents.

I'm saying a license with some sort of test to determine suitability to be a parent. Is this person going to be capable of looking after themselves and the child. Is the child going to have love. A child doesnt need money or possesions, the park is free and so are many other things out doors. You can make a child happy without paying a penny. Love is all it takes.

The difficulty comes in the judgement. People do change, and plenty of women suffer with post stress after having a child.

Although I do agree that women should not take hard drugs (anything other than cannabis, no tobacco either) while pregnant. Maybe a little tiny sniff of charlie very early on wouldn't do any harm. But everything else is a no. My girl stopped during pregnancy and now she doesn't take drugs at all. She'll have a little sniff with me now and again.

I believe that heroin abusers and crackheads should be locked up until they've given birth. Maybe a 9 month stint will help clear their heads. Still though, people can and do change. We cannot judge who should be allowed to have kids.

everything else is judged, hell, over in europe u guys got video cameras on ur streets hooked up to motion-capture software that will notify police if ur doing something a little suspicious (like standing around an ATM but not using it).

when ppl change- they apply for the license again. think of all the abusive individuals that learned their behaviors from the ppl that raised them. if somebody is known to not be a mature, healthy individual they should not have the power to effect another persons life in such a major way.

"mother is god in the eyes of a child"

"What you have to understand, is your father was your model for God. If you're male and you're Christian and living in America, your father is your model for God. And if you never know your father, if your father bails out and dies or is never at home, what do you believe about God?

you cant have kids until you pass the test, everyone is able to take the test over and over, but if you fail you cant have kids.

LOL. you guys think some crazy shit.

The cameras are there as a form of control. They only need to actually work once.

Believe me, I've needed those cameras twice in my life. 20 CCTV cameras were on one area and they didn't catch the guy hit me first? In fact they didn't catch any of it and I ended up doing some jail time.

The cameras don't work. They have two guys watching about 100 screens that capture the activities of maybe 20,000 cameras.

Don't be fooled. Big Brother needs you to believe.

nah, what im say is that theyre implementing technology that doesnt require anybody to be watching the camera feeds. the software can also pick ur facial features up to pick u out of a crowd.

of course this is just what ive seen in programs, no way to truly kno i guess.

All this shit costs money. Our police stations must share the new computerised fingerprint machine as there is only one for the whole country, the rest have to wait there turn using common ink.

Yes, these things are out there (and how they enjoy informing us). They just can't afford to buy too many of them. Then there's the running costs, maintanance, all kinds of expenses that have to explained to the tax payer. Our police forces struggle to buy stab proof vests let alone cutting edge technology.

preoQpydDlusion said:

i say no. to governmental restrictions of any sort.

if im to assume that the government will always be around fucking with ppls lives tho, i say hell yes. too many stupid people, not enough creativity. it would never happen tho, the government relies on a dull herd to carry it.

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yep im with you.