Should stupid people be allowed to breed?

misshestermoffitt said:

She has a right to have kids, but she doesn't have a right to reach her hand into my pocket to pay for their care. She was already receiving food stamps and other government aid before she had the 8 extras.

I was responsible, I knew that 2 kids were plenty to support so I only had 2. I didn't expect to keep popping them out and expecting other people to pay for their care.

Maybe if Octomom's hand was in your pocket, you might see it differently.

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Yeah but her hand isnt in your pocket is it.
She is being supported by your government who have lied to you about money since you were born.
You have directed your hate towards this women instead of your government

Um, has it ever occured to you that a single woman can not properly care for 14 kids alone? When they kids start turning up dead, then what will you have to say?

I pay taxes, she doesn't pay taxes. If I needed services I would be denied because I have income, she gets all kinds of free services because she's too dumb to figure out that if you have no job and no paycheck, you really can't afford 14 kids.

What she has done is nothing short of neglect and abuse. She knows she can't pay for their care, food, clothes, housing. She knows that she can't take care of all 14 at once. She thinks people should pay $135 thousand dollars per month so she can have nannies for the babies.

Well that's just fine, if she want's $135 thousand dollars worth of nannies per month, then she can have them, as long as she gets a job and pays for it herself.

Nobody but me paid for my child care when my kids were young. I didn't expect her or anyone else to pay to raise my kids. It used to pay HALF my salary each week to a sitter and then had to make due with what was left and I scraped by.

Whatever happened to personal accountability?

misshestermoffitt said:

Um, has it ever occured to you that a single woman can not properly care for 14 kids alone? When they kids start turning up dead, then what will you have to say?

I pay taxes, she doesn't pay taxes. If I needed services I would be denied because I have income, she gets all kinds of free services because she's too dumb to figure out that if you have no job and no paycheck, you really can't afford 14 kids.

What she has done is nothing short of neglect and abuse. She knows she can't pay for their care, food, clothes, housing. She knows that she can't take care of all 14 at once. She thinks people should pay $135 thousand dollars per month so she can have nannies for the babies.

Well that's just fine, if she want's $135 thousand dollars worth of nannies per month, then she can have them, as long as she gets a job and pays for it herself.

Nobody but me paid for my child care when my kids were young. I didn't expect her or anyone else to pay to raise my kids. It used to pay HALF my salary each week to a sitter and then had to make due with what was left and I scraped by.

Whatever happened to personal accountability?

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As i said i agree with you that she is irresponsible and that she will not be able to cope with them all on her own.
I also think that you are forgetting that she has her own free will and has every right to make her own mistakes.
She may well be a burden to the state and you may well not be able to get help that you deserve when she can.
This doesn't mean that you should hate her though does it?
I understand that you seem to be a lot more worried about your own financial situation and the fact that stupid people are receiving more help than you a responsible person is.
This is of course wrong and not fair at all but not something that should cause people to hate this lady or her kids.
Its always easy to attack the easiest person instead of those that are untouchable and actually really responsible for the worlds current financial problems.
I also apologise for suggesting that you were evil,it is clearly apparent to me that you are just very worried about your own and your country's financial crisis and my words were to strong

she should give some of them to Micheal maybe he will feel better!!!

I don't hate her, but I think she is irresponsbile as irresponsible can be. She was busy paying for invitro while her parents who support her are facing foreclosure. So now the tax payers get to pay for her parents home to get a bailout and for her to get a bailout.

Her and her kids should have to live on her income. She has received nearly 400 thousand dollars for selling pics of her kids and doing interviews. Her welfare should be cut off. She should have to live on her own income.

Rewarding people who are irrsponsible just begats more irresponsiblity.


The amount of money that she expects people to give her for free to pay for nannies each month is over 3 times what I make in a year. Maybe I should have had a couple of litters to get free stuff to. Just wait, litters will become a trend, why pay for your own kids when you can have a litter and get free stuff ?!?!?!?!

i was watching "wife swap" last night. one family had 9 kids, all theirs. once you get over 7 or 8 how much worse does it really get? funny thing is, she has 9 and no one cares.

I would not stop dumb people having children, just slow it down a little, anyone who has been unemployed for more than a few years and had no desire to get a job is a waste of space, therefore should not be allowed to breed, but at the same time we need dumb people, i mean who would clean the streets and work in Maccy D's.
also if you have committed a real crime, like rape or murder, then your family should be neutered too, as the violence could be in the criminals genes therefore their offspring could have that violence in them and commit further crimes.

someone needs to make a stupid person detector, like the things at airport but for people, BEEP your dumb, no kids for you.

everyone smoke some, don't get to deep in thought, mindfuck will occur.

but do the people with 9 kids have jobs? Are they supporting the kids or is the government supporting them through tax dollars? There is a difference.

fdd2blk said:

i was watching "wife swap" last night. one family had 9 kids, all theirs. once you get over 7 or 8 how much worse does it really get? funny thing is, she has 9 and no one cares.

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misshestermoffitt said:

but do the people with 9 kids have jobs? Are they supporting the kids or is the government supporting them through tax dollars? There is a difference.

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there are thousands of families out there with 6, 8, 10 kids that receive welfare. go to any crack town.

I'll pass on the crack town, thanks, enough meth heads around here, don't need to visit crack heads.

Personally, I would rather see the money help out poor families that need temp assistance than go to warmongering politicians and their companies.

I've heard that over 90% of the population is going to die, unless You live underground, when 2012 comes around because planet X/Nibiru is supposed to do some catastrophic things. So if thats true than it doesn't really matter much whos having how many babies right now because We're all going to die anyways.

~PEACE~

We Love 1 said:

Personally, I would rather see the money help out poor families that need temp assistance than go to warmongering politicians and their companies.

I've heard that over 90% of the population is going to die, unless You live underground, when 2012 comes around because planet X/Nibiru is supposed to do some catastrophic things. So if thats true than it doesn't really matter much whos having how many babies right now because We're all going to die anyways.

~PEACE~

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If 90% of the planet is really going to die in 3 years, then why is anyone wasting the last 3 years of their life working a day job or paying taxes?

HailTheLeaf said:

If 90% of the planet is really going to die in 3 years, then why is anyone wasting the last 3 years of their life working a day job or paying taxes?

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Go check out youtube, search planet X or Nibiru and come to Your own conclusions.

But to answer your question, I believe a lot of people are ignorant. A lot of people don't have conputers and those that do might not have heard about it.

I've heard that part of the reason why they're not telling the public is beause they don't want people to panic and that would lead to "not working or paying taxes" which would lead to riots and the fall of the gov't.

I also heard that the ruling elite want to get rid of 90% of the population anyways so they can better pursue their New World Order. The elites already have underground bases in mountains or whatnot where they have every seed known to man.

They say that Nibiru is going to burn the face of the Earth, produce a GREAT FLOOD, create a pole shift in the Earth (which there is evidence that this has happened before), cause earthquakes and basically the END OF TIMES/ DOOMS DAY package.

The Sumerians which was the first intelligent society which they say the Bible is based upon talked about this planet Nibiru. They also knew the color of Neptune and Uranus, they said the color of these two planets were BLUE 6,000 years ago. Scientists only discovered this for theirselves ~200 years ago or so.

You should look into it!

~PEACE~

We Love 1 said:

Go check out youtube, search planet X or Nibiru and come to Your own conclusions.

But to answer your question, I believe a lot of people are ignorant. A lot of people don't have conputers and those that do might not have heard about it.

I've heard that part of the reason why they're not telling the public is beause they don't want people to panic and that would lead to "not working or paying taxes" which would lead to riots and the fall of the gov't.

I also heard that the ruling elite want to get rid of 90% of the population anyways so they can better pursue their New World Order. The elites already have underground bases in mountains or whatnot where they have every seed known to man.

They say that Nibiru is going to burn the face of the Earth, produce a GREAT FLOOD, create a pole shift in the Earth (which there is evidence that this has happened before), cause earthquakes and basically the END OF TIMES/ DOOMS DAY package.

The Sumerians which was the first intelligent society which they say the Bible is based upon talked about this planet Nibiru. They also knew the color of Neptune and Uranus, they said the color of these two planets were BLUE 6,000 years ago. Scientists only discovered this for theirselves ~200 years ago or so.

You should look into it!

~PEACE~

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Not only did the Sumerian's know of the colours of the planets they also knew and depicted Pluto in their art and their ancient scripts say that the Gods told them how to draw them.
You don't have to rely on youtube for that info if you find it to hard to believe just look at the official ancient Sumerian archaeological sites.
Personally i hope that if planet x is in a near orbit with us that it will pass far enough away to not cause any or only minimal disturbance to our planet

A better poll would be "How stupid are people for electing these elitist politicans into office?"

You would think will all the amount of people in the world there would be a handful that could actually make some good decisions.

~PEACE~

wow, post # 18, holy shit.............its true. China is the only country that i know of that has any kind of population restrictions....but could any average american ever tolerate houses filled with cribs, then filled with kids way to old to be in there. (our modern prisons)....yet they (we)do they're best. In other countries in africa people are killing each other off land (turf) that they fought over for centuries(decades). Sunnis dont want any shiots, the pointy headed ones hate the rouand faced ones, they got big noses and curly hair, they are hairy and smell like onions, ....wtf, ok. We got an issue with folks taking advantage of us, that kid better say his a,b,c's right, and the parents should try to learn english too. The Cubans did it, Italians, Greeks, come on they're kids spoke english. F-ing having to listen to spanish all the time after english, shit if i learn the language i'll go nuts cause everthing would kinda repeat itself.....f that. And for all the fighting....the dinosaurs did not please the gods and a freekin asteroid ablitherated something.....maybe the previous existance of man, the one that was destroying the earth, of gods many esteemed things. Lets all act right, and for god sakes stop stabbig each other in the back, we've got to get out of this recession.

im off to china

We Love 1 said:

Go check out youtube, search planet X or Nibiru and come to Your own conclusions.

But to answer your question, I believe a lot of people are ignorant. A lot of people don't have conputers and those that do might not have heard about it.

I've heard that part of the reason why they're not telling the public is beause they don't want people to panic and that would lead to "not working or paying taxes" which would lead to riots and the fall of the gov't.

I also heard that the ruling elite want to get rid of 90% of the population anyways so they can better pursue their New World Order. The elites already have underground bases in mountains or whatnot where they have every seed known to man.

They say that Nibiru is going to burn the face of the Earth, produce a GREAT FLOOD, create a pole shift in the Earth (which there is evidence that this has happened before), cause earthquakes and basically the END OF TIMES/ DOOMS DAY package.

The Sumerians which was the first intelligent society which they say the Bible is based upon talked about this planet Nibiru. They also knew the color of Neptune and Uranus, they said the color of these two planets were BLUE 6,000 years ago. Scientists only discovered this for theirselves ~200 years ago or so.

You should look into it!

~PEACE~

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i love conspiracy theories. they're so paranoid, warm and fuzzy. I mean for an idea that believes the gov't behind some massive cover up, its faith in gov't is amazingly high. I mean to keep something as large as a planet (especially one that is supposed to wipe life from this planet) as secret is not an easy task. Moreover to believe the gov't is capable of keeping every other gov't (with a decent space program) and all the private astronomers (which owns most of the high altitude observatories) quiet and giving the same cover story is impressive.

I'm skeptical too.

I'll believe it when I see it.

~PEACE~

i dont think its a question of being allowed, i think its more of a matter of them being more fertile than intelects....our race is on the verge of being completely ignorant third world people that over breed, how many of us do you think inbreed and probably dont even know it...we dont know our blood lines well most of us dont, pretty sick when you think about it