should I trim some fan leaves??

JackHerer · Jun 23, 2009

high all,

Im flowering my bagseed plant, its about 20 days in, not sure how it looks considering this is my first time, it smells musty as heck, like an old room. Im not sure weather I should remove the lower 2 or 3 big fan leaves to give more room to the many buds growing around there. What should I do and when?? :confused:

Dirtyboy · Jun 23, 2009

You can trimm all the little shit secondary branches off the plant. They will not produce shit any ways.

JackHerer · Jun 23, 2009

Dirtyboy said:
You can trimm all the little shit secondary branches off the plant. They will not produce shit any ways.

here are the pics, Im not sure what you mean by secondary branches.

tahoe58 · Jun 23, 2009

The argument for not removing them is they are the catchers mitt for the energy the plants needs. the logical thought is this will in some measure reduce yield and growth potential. The benefit is allowing greater light penetration to other parts of the plant - thereby bringing more substantive development to those side branches. it is a personal choice. I left all/most in my previous grows, and this time around I trimmed my girl up to encourage the proliferation of the side branches. I am pleased with the result to date. My process included taking a few out every other day, alternating, until all the big initial fan leaves have been removed. I'm sure you'll generate some other replies as well. But those are my thoughts. Good luck! Walk On!~

post edit - the form of your plant probably will not benefit from removing the leaves considering the node spacing and overall density of the plant.

Dirtyboy · Jun 23, 2009

Leave it alone in your case. Donot cut anything.

Corbat420 · Jun 23, 2009

all of those little branches that look like they might be good bud, those are the ones your talking about right? the ones you want to bud......

i made this mistake my first year, i trimmed the foliage in hopes of bigger, better bud and left the bottom branches.......big fail on my part, the plants produces less than they should have and it was thinner.

what you will want to do is trim ALL of the lower branches off, so that the canopy can flower as thickly as possible. because the buds start at the top of the plant and work their way down you need to direct as much of the flowering hormones as possible to the top, so that if can produce and produce and produce..... by taking the lower branches and leaves off you allow the plant to direct its own hormone flow for the best results.........

it is better to trim in the veg state because the shock harms the plant less, but if you only take little bits at a time you should be just fine.

just remember, small asses usually means big titties.

Corbat420 · Jun 23, 2009

JackHerer said:
here are the pics, Im not sure what you mean by secondary branches.

see that little bud at the very bottom of the plant? thats what we mean.......chop it off.

@tahoe58 the photosynthesis needed to produce bud is 10,000 lumens/mature female. thats just the way it is, with a canopy like that the 10k lumens can be absorbes without problem meaning chopping the little bud at the bottom only redirects the energy, instead of the energy just dropping off the scale, seeing as the 10k lumens were allready absorbed by the canopy.....

here, i made a pic from yours.

JackHerer · Jun 23, 2009

wow, thanks so much for the replies. Im gonna have to get on it.

GreenMagic · Jun 23, 2009

do not trim fan leaves!!!!
and do not trim too many of the leaves on secondary branches.
photosynthesis is being done by leaves...
less energy less development...

Dirtyboy · Jun 23, 2009

GreenMagic said:
do not trim fan leaves!!!!
and do not trim too many of the leaves on secondary branches.
photosynthesis is being done by leaves...
less energy less development...

In case leave the plant alone. If he had long branches coming off the plant then i would cut off all the little shit stuff. In his case he has no branches.

Dirtyboy · Jun 23, 2009

Look at these plants. Ya see how the bottom is trimmed. Thats what i was talking about.

born2killspam · Jun 23, 2009

I only trim if there is an unignorable reason to do so.. I don't see one with your situation..
I love this new leafless plant fad though.. Maybe one day we'll be able to grow them without light too..

Dirtyboy · Jun 23, 2009

born2killspam said:
I only trim if there is an unignorable reason to do so.. I don't see one with your situation..
I love this new leafless plant fad though.. Maybe one day we'll be able to grow them without light too..

The smaller buds,secondary growth and some of the smaller branches are removed. I dnt want to grow little shit buds. What remains above that is giant buds on each branch. I will post a top phot for ya.

born2killspam · Jun 23, 2009

You're missing the point, you're removing energy reserves that the plant has already photosynthisized.. Keeping them attached isn't going to reduce your potential elsewhere unless it blocking more vigorous growth from light..

Dirtyboy · Jun 23, 2009

The concept is that your putting the consentration of the growth in the main buds and not the little buds that do not produce much. There is a thick canopy above that area. Not much light down there and it adds good air flow. When i grow 3 to 4 oz per plant. I grow main cola buds. I donot have 2 oz of little shit pop corn nugs and then 2 oz of top cola nug. Its all top shelf bud.

born2killspam · Jun 23, 2009

I get the concept, I'd just rather have 3-4Oz uptop, and 2Oz of popcorn below..

Dirtyboy · Jun 23, 2009

Well i am just starting to learn this stuff. I may get there.

Good growing to you!

born2killspam · Jun 23, 2009

If the root system is up to par it can do it all..

Corbat420 · Jun 27, 2009

born2killspam said:
I get the concept, I'd just rather have 3-4Oz uptop, and 2Oz of popcorn below..

the problem is, with growing that 2Oz of popcorn below you lose the energy being directed to the main cola, taking the potential 4Oz top away, you'll get 2Oz of leafy popcorn and 2Oz leafy main cola........and yes they will be leafy because of the extra photosynthesis needed to keep the popcorn buds alive.

therefor, to have a dence 4Oz main cola is more potent (and logical..) than 2Oz of popcorn+maincola.

born2killspam · Jun 28, 2009

Corbat420 said:
the problem is, with growing that 2Oz of popcorn below you lose the energy being directed to the main cola, taking the potential 4Oz top away, you'll get 2Oz of leafy popcorn and 2Oz leafy main cola........and yes they will be leafy because of the extra photosynthesis needed to keep the popcorn buds alive.

therefor, to have a dence 4Oz main cola is more potent (and logical..) than 2Oz of popcorn+maincola.

Didn't apply to me, my root systems were always sufficient, and healthy..

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