Should I dump these newborn plants out?

Im starting by growing to a decent height in the Aerogarden 7, then transplanting them into a clay-pebble netpot lid over 3.5 gallon buckets in a grow tent.. lit by 400 watt MH then HPS. I have the aerogarden reservoir bubbling to all hell with one long, square airstone then two little bubbler stones. The reservoir is distilled water and I am not using nutes at this time (obviously).

Low at night is around 61-65F, high during the day is 78-85F. One plant is doing well, looking healthy, the other just looks like it's going to die. The other one is barely sprouting up as well. The root system seems fine on all the plants, but only one has sprouted up and looks healthy so far.

This is all bag-seed so it's a hit or miss for right now, and I know a key part to growing is the genetics of the seed. Can any of you pros diagnose this?

Here's the setup:


And here's the worrysome plant:

why so advanced for so little amount of germination? I germinate my bag seeds by the hundreds to chose the top however many I decide to keep and separate the super thrivers from the decent and the failing. I germinate in paper towel than transfer the good ones I got into rockwool and then the rest of the good ones (if any left) and the rest, decent or crappy, go into coco with just water.. just add water as it seems its needed.. obviously this is over kill on numbers, but im going to be growing out doors so it doesn't mater to me.. but you should def consider taking it easy on the advancement of it.. I get them to pop and become seedlings about as fast as that aeroponic thing will, maybe two or 3 days short of hand, but Im only in $5-10 in supplies... half my 45 pack of rockwool cubes (was $10) and some solo cup fulls of coco that I have by the pounds, (free) and whatever electricity my lights run and water I pay cents for gallons.. as for the bad seeds, give them time unless the time matters to you, start germing some new seeds incase you decide to toss them, if they are bag seeds like mine, than don't be afraid to toss some, I just tossed about 20-40 popped seeds because im over crowded in my veg room getting babies prepared for out doors

I only put them in the aero when they have about an inch taproot popping out in the paper towels.

The root system seems fine for each node, i had to take one of the plants out because it wasn't advancing past the taproot stage

and because my grow tent will only have room for 3 3.5 gallon pots, i'm not doing a large-scale op. I was originally going to grow in 5 gallon but the tent is only 5ft and some inches high so the less height the pots have the higher i can grow the bud

they look fine to me, what little i can see from the pix that is..

umm, you can always use the 5 gallon pots if you'd like, and just tie the plants down to keep them shorter, it's a technique called lst, or low stress training, if you're interested you can check it out.. (btw, usually, the bigger the pots, the larger the root mass, the bigger the plant, therefore the more bud you'll get)..

racerboy71 said:

they look fine to me, what little i can see from the pix that is..

umm, you can always use the 5 gallon pots if you'd like, and just tie the plants down to keep them shorter, it's a technique called lst, or low stress training, if you're interested you can check it out.. (btw, usually, the bigger the pots, the larger the root mass, the bigger the plant, therefore the more bud you'll get)..

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The plant hasnt really moved much or opened up though, im talking about this one -- im thinking it might have bad genetics

sorry about being all over the place in my last reply, the point I was trying to get at is, that if your using bag seeds that are practically free, just germinate more than youll use like how i was talking about above.. this way youll see which ones crack and germinate fastest, which usually means better genetics and you can get the top 3 or 5 to chose from than use those to flower.. but also, i wanna throw in some advice.. since your held back with space, you may want to get a big single resi with multiple sites. since you can only do 3 3.5gal (for flowering monster plants) in the mean time while your waiting for that, would it be a good idea to have like a 6 site bubbler so that you can veg 6 plants till theyre mature enough to take a clone from each one, than root those clones (obviously label to which one came from where) and then throw them in a small flowering chamber of sorts with 12/12 light so you can find out the sex of the plants. this way your plants wont stop growing (maybe just a little stress depending on how early you clone) and your clones can be disposed of when you find the sex, and also youll have more chances of getting 3 fems out of 6 young veg plants instead of tansplanting 3 unknown plants into 3.5 gal buckets and growing them not knowing if they are male or female.. also less nutrients wasted in the long run, as well as electricity, so it kind of pays its self off to set up a 6 site bubbler since they are so cheap to make.. a tote of sorts, air pump (im sure you already have1) air stone, and the rest seems like stuff youll already have if your planning to do 3.5 gal buckets.. such as media and nutrients and equip to drill/cut holes and net pots and such.. but i would aslo recommend that if you don't have smaller net pots, id get a few.. the advice above is good, train your plants, lst isn't the only way to go, you have fming, topping, scrog net, trellis, tying down, and all kinds of innovative ways to keep vertical growth down.. you should check out scrog nets, its pretty simple once you see someone do it! you should check out a grower i have watched 99% of his videos.. his old videos are the best to me because it was before he got a bunch of fancy led equip and different grow locations. look up his vids by searching hygrohybrid if you haven't watched any of his videos already..

Take the dome off.

agreed....get the dome off! they need co2 and a very light breeze.

alright I did. There's always cold air coming in fresh from outside the tent, but i added a clip fan to blow on the inner wall of the tent (not directly on the babies)

I think they're bunk as fk though, 2 of them dont look healthy meanwhile the other one is getting ready to plume another pair of leaves

good luck man, hope you manage to get those slow babies to pull through if your deciding to keep them, if not than that's cool.. us bag seeders gotta keep our eyes out for the diamond babies.. I just recently have been working on 50 popped seeds of about 100-200 germed seeds and so far only 3 have died and 21 are in rockwool cubes, and 19 are in small foam cups with coco coir (as for the other 7 I had to chose out the weakest looking ones based on root size because my indoor space is limited) and as of today they all look healthy and 16 look tall and lengthy and the rest are short and stubby and a few middle range ones (noticed the short stubby ones have pretty dark purple stems and the long lengthy ones seem to have brighter green stems) all are the same age.

Just an observation,you may want to replace your water/nute lines with blue or black.water+light=algae ..

dux said:

Just an observation,you may want to replace your water/nute lines with blue or black.water+light=algae ..

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Yep thanks for the advice, I already bought and received 10ft of black aquarium tubing, but I'm waiting til I transfer over to the 3.5 gal buckets before I re-line the tubing to the new larger airstones

Also, I ended up trashing the two strugglers. My conclusion is that I left them on the cable box germing in the plates/paper towel and the temps reached 95F. Went out and bought a heating pad that doesn't auto-off after 2 hours, kept the babies at a steady 83F and germed two beautiful, thriving beans. They are now doing really well

that's awesome dude, you should put up pics and keep us up on this grow! my babies are doing terrific, ive already fimed one and started bonsai on another!