should i add nutes right after flushing coco?

Alec420

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So i flush my 3 gal pot coco+perlite with 3 gal of 1/4 nutes and cal-mag... do i add full strength nutes right after my flush or wait till it medium drys then add nutes
 

Phytium hater

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So, did the EC get higher and higher in reservoir...even then if plants looks good..no need for bread an water menu..should be able to continue whit the desired EC value for the size of the plant...depending why you flushed,,,if it was just the salt build up prevention..without any signs of over feeding..
 

Alec420

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So, did the EC get higher and higher in reservoir...even then if plants looks good..no need for bread an water menu..should be able to continue whit the desired EC value for the size of the plant...depending why you flushed,,,if it was just the salt build up prevention..without any signs of over feeding..
If i dont have any signs of over feeding, flushing is not needed ?
is having dark leaves and purple fan leave stems a sign of over feeding
 

Phytium hater

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If i dont have any signs of over feeding, flushing is not needed ?
is having dark leaves and purple fan leave stems a sign of over feeding
Yes you need to flush with proper amount 2-3 times the pot size and ph water to 5.8,,,the dark leaves and purple stem are caused of salt build ups and so you get nitrogen toxity and magnesium def symptoms...do the flush with lets say if your pot size is 3 gallon then you can use even 9 gallon rinse...after that feed 1-2 days half base nutes but do add some Extra amount of calcium ..that will bring the EC a bit up..don't over do it but its a must (or cal/mag additive) ...after 1-2 days do regular strength feeding but do include the extra calcium or calmag additive...

Also you can do after the flush as a first aid.. include a mild foliar feed with calcium or calmag
 

Phytium hater

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I just don't want any salt build up in the future
Every 3 weeks is good to do the flush in coco ,at least in veg to make sure no salt build ups...I am a bit lazy to do them all the time but in veg I do them ,maybe 2 times...other vise if you have a good run off it will help not to get salt build up too easily..
 

tyke1973

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The only flush i do in coco is the final one at week 9,or if i have a problem,during the grow other than that there is no need to flush.

But saying that i do only feed via root's,with auto pot's so after the first few week of feeding the coco when the clones hit it,after that the plants,roots hit the bottom of the auto pots they feed by taking up nutrients via roots from trays with a air ring in the bottom.The air ring is key to not getting salt build up's and keeping the nutrient film in the trays,with a good supply of air.

After the first 7/12 days the plants then receive no more feed via the coco,its just to support the plant's,the roots do grow at a fast rate in it,but no feeding is done through it.At the end of the grow when the plants are cut down to hang the auto pot should be full of root's because a air ring is used the root's are lovely white color ,right up to the end.
 
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Phytium hater

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Lets call it a preventable rinse... no need but depending of symptoms and feeding system if no proper reservoir drip system where you can run with a bit longer feed and run off it is recommended to do rinse every 3 weeks...like I said I prefer not to do too much either but those symptoms he has are a good indicator to do a rinse/flush to make sure no further problems arise..


So option A) Rinse ,=no harm done and prevention of problems.
option B)No Rinse = Salt build ups,dark green leaves Nitrogen toxity, magnesium def =purple stems caused by lack of calcium and
build ups and dis balance of nutrients so NPK ratio is broken.
 
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Alec420

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Lets call it a preventable rinse... no need but depending of symptoms and feeding system if no proper reservoir drip system where you can run with a bit longer feed and run off it is recommended to do rinse every 3 weeks...like I said I prefer not to do too much either but those symptoms he has are a good indicator to do a rinse/flush to make sure no further problems arise..


So option A) Rinse ,=no harm done and prevention of problems.
option B)No Rinse = Salt build ups,dark green leaves Nitrogen toxity, magnesium def =purple stems caused by lack of calcium and
build ups and dis balance of nutrients so NPK ratio is broken.
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i recently got these rust colored spots in the top canopy, can spraying water mixed with epsom salt help?
 

Phytium hater

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Do as I suggested above...I have no experience with dos and don't with epsom salt..but the calcium additive is great and calmag..
calcium travels slowly so spraying on the leaves is a bit quicker way to get the first aid...but do the rinse and do the steps above..
when there is a lock out from salt build up in coco you can add what ever and there is still a lock out from excess salt build up...so flush and do the thing...epsom might be useful but can't give info on it...google
 
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