ShLUbY
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Precisely why I want to focus my garden on terps
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ShLUbY
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The notch is just taking your very sharp blade and taking a chunk out of the stem in a few places. Just as a logger would notch a free before felling it. I usually take about 4-6 notches out and then make my angle cut just below the them. Make sure you take more stem than needed and make your angle cut immediately before placing into water.
Also if you’re using cloning gel, you can just dilute about 6 drops of gel into a half a cup of water, mix it up real well and then soak your cutting stems in that. It’s a much more efficient use of the gel. Shit lasts forever like that
MustangStudFarm
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In Oklahoma there is a big hurt for in state growers. I know of 2 dispensaries that are importing illegal weed. I also heard that the state is not doing much to control it. I really thought that Okla was going to be like a police state.
I need to go and catch up on this thread, I just saw something that I wanted to comment on.
MustangStudFarm
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I've been impressed with Delicious seeds. I haven't ran anything from them in several years, but I hear that Spanish breeders are pretty good. I had Critical Sensi Star and Cotton Candy from them and I wouldn't mind running them again.
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ShLUbY
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I believe that’s the regular power recipe (I really need to start a lab book for the garden lol). Lately I’ve been omitting oyster shell from my recycles. I really think it’s helping with the acidity. Im not noticing a difference between the top watering and sub irrigation with pumice between the two plants either.
A recent recipe I upped the gypsum content to 1 cup per cuft to try and acidify the mix a bit. Just put my last batch of gorilla glue into that mix (making room for new stuff... she’s pretty but she’s a pain to grow) and will also be running the Perkins (cbd) in that mix as well.
led1k
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Excellent! Size of notch? ~1/4 diameter of stem?
How long to soak in the diluted solution? Love the idea of making it last. Seriously.
For the final cut I take it immediately and dunk but then I'll cut a bit more with the stem under water.
ShLUbY
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Yeah quarter diameter is good, you want to expose the white tissue below the dermis. Soak 12-24 hrs. I don’t see any difference with the amount of hours really. Cool thing about diluting the gel is you can soak a ton of cuts in that water. Makes it last long time!
ShLUbY
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Busy busy! Here's a few shots I managed to take that turned out halfway decent.
Brainwreck nugs heading into cure. So pungent, wonderful citrus terps.
Pre 98 Bubba Kush at 45 or so days.
Confidential Cheese at 24 days and stacked up nicely. However, I've noticed my soil pH is creeping back up and is slightly alkaline. Doesn't seem to be affecting growth at this point, but if I remember correctly from the last time this happened it was a very hard stall around week 5... I've added about 1.5oz of elemental sulfur to my latest recycle mix. I need to start figuring out what the hell is going on. I've stopped adding oyster shell flour to the recycle mixes, hoping to combat this pH issue, but it doesn't seem to be working yet. I'm gonna continue to keep trying to save this soil. I'm wondering if breaking it up each run is having an effect on the soil pH due to disrupting fungal populations in the soil. Or I'm wondering if there's just too many nutrients in the soil and it's causing the pH to jump. I hate to say it, but I'm going to start acidifying my water for these plants in order to help neutralize some of the CaCO3 in the mix (using pure citric acid crystals, so should have little to no affect on the plant/microbe relationships). Anyways here they are.
Put this trellis together, but I've noticed that if I included corner pieces that had an extra hole facing upward (4way instead of 3way), I could add a second trellis on top of this one very easily... so that's what I'm gonna do on the next build, which is happening tomorrow. I'll post the pics when I get it done. These will have removable legs so I can change the overall height, and then the option of adding a second trellis for those cultivars that like to stretch a lot in flower and require a double trellis. The second trellis will also be adjustable height, just as the first layer is. Should be pretty sweet. I'm sure someone has already come up with this design, but I have not researched into how people are building with PVC, this is just my own experiment with them.
That's all for now.
Brainwreck nugs heading into cure. So pungent, wonderful citrus terps.
Pre 98 Bubba Kush at 45 or so days.
Confidential Cheese at 24 days and stacked up nicely. However, I've noticed my soil pH is creeping back up and is slightly alkaline. Doesn't seem to be affecting growth at this point, but if I remember correctly from the last time this happened it was a very hard stall around week 5... I've added about 1.5oz of elemental sulfur to my latest recycle mix. I need to start figuring out what the hell is going on. I've stopped adding oyster shell flour to the recycle mixes, hoping to combat this pH issue, but it doesn't seem to be working yet. I'm gonna continue to keep trying to save this soil. I'm wondering if breaking it up each run is having an effect on the soil pH due to disrupting fungal populations in the soil. Or I'm wondering if there's just too many nutrients in the soil and it's causing the pH to jump. I hate to say it, but I'm going to start acidifying my water for these plants in order to help neutralize some of the CaCO3 in the mix (using pure citric acid crystals, so should have little to no affect on the plant/microbe relationships). Anyways here they are.
Put this trellis together, but I've noticed that if I included corner pieces that had an extra hole facing upward (4way instead of 3way), I could add a second trellis on top of this one very easily... so that's what I'm gonna do on the next build, which is happening tomorrow. I'll post the pics when I get it done. These will have removable legs so I can change the overall height, and then the option of adding a second trellis for those cultivars that like to stretch a lot in flower and require a double trellis. The second trellis will also be adjustable height, just as the first layer is. Should be pretty sweet. I'm sure someone has already come up with this design, but I have not researched into how people are building with PVC, this is just my own experiment with them.
That's all for now.
Jesselikes2grow
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Ya
Yeah man I've been encountering the ph up creep as well. Few different times it's happened. I can only think it's things breaking down causing it to rise. Likely the fish bone meal, crab meal and prob a few other things doing it imho. I'll have to check my water I think, make sure that hasn't changed, been awhile since checking water quality. Do you know of a proper method I can do myself to test for the amount of liming type minerals in my water?Busy busy! Here's a few shots I managed to take that turned out halfway decent.
Brainwreck nugs heading into cure. So pungent, wonderful citrus terps.
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Pre 98 Bubba Kush at 45 or so days.
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Confidential Cheese at 24 days and stacked up nicely. However, I've noticed my soil pH is creeping back up and is slightly alkaline. Doesn't seem to be affecting growth at this point, but if I remember correctly from the last time this happened it was a very hard stall around week 5... I've added about 1.5oz of elemental sulfur to my latest recycle mix. I need to start figuring out what the hell is going on. I've stopped adding oyster shell flour to the recycle mixes, hoping to combat this pH issue, but it doesn't seem to be working yet. I'm gonna continue to keep trying to save this soil. I'm wondering if breaking it up each run is having an effect on the soil pH due to disrupting fungal populations in the soil. Or I'm wondering if there's just too many nutrients in the soil and it's causing the pH to jump. I hate to say it, but I'm going to start acidifying my water for these plants in order to help neutralize some of the CaCO3 in the mix (using pure citric acid crystals, so should have little to no affect on the plant/microbe relationships). Anyways here they are.
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Put this trellis together, but I've noticed that if I included corner pieces that had an extra hole facing upward (4way instead of 3way), I could add a second trellis on top of this one very easily... so that's what I'm gonna do on the next build, which is happening tomorrow. I'll post the pics when I get it done. These will have removable legs so I can change the overall height, and then the option of adding a second trellis for those cultivars that like to stretch a lot in flower and require a double trellis. The second trellis will also be adjustable height, just as the first layer is. Should be pretty sweet. I'm sure someone has already come up with this design, but I have not researched into how people are building with PVC, this is just my own experiment with them.
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That's all for now.
ShLUbY
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Negative. You’d probably have to send in a sample if you’re on a well. If you’re on city tap, you should be able to find water reports no problem.
And yeah definitely the breakdown causing the creep up. This is specifically why I stopped using OSF. I knew there was lots of calcium coming from other sources, so I wanted to eliminate that buffer. I think I may not have gotten to it in time though. These mixes definitely had a couple recycles with OSF added. Anyway, I’m starting to really question how often we need to be remineralizing our indoor custom living soils. I have so many grow journal ideas going right now. I just wish I had the time to do them. In a couple months I will definitely have time and we will get some answers
Avant_Gardener
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I really do like your trellis set-up,most practical. How tall is the canopy from the floor and what inch squares do you have?Busy busy! Here's a few shots I managed to take that turned out halfway decent.
Brainwreck nugs heading into cure. So pungent, wonderful citrus terps.
View attachment 4301019 View attachment 4301020
Pre 98 Bubba Kush at 45 or so days.
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Confidential Cheese at 24 days and stacked up nicely. However, I've noticed my soil pH is creeping back up and is slightly alkaline. Doesn't seem to be affecting growth at this point, but if I remember correctly from the last time this happened it was a very hard stall around week 5... I've added about 1.5oz of elemental sulfur to my latest recycle mix. I need to start figuring out what the hell is going on. I've stopped adding oyster shell flour to the recycle mixes, hoping to combat this pH issue, but it doesn't seem to be working yet. I'm gonna continue to keep trying to save this soil. I'm wondering if breaking it up each run is having an effect on the soil pH due to disrupting fungal populations in the soil. Or I'm wondering if there's just too many nutrients in the soil and it's causing the pH to jump. I hate to say it, but I'm going to start acidifying my water for these plants in order to help neutralize some of the CaCO3 in the mix (using pure citric acid crystals, so should have little to no affect on the plant/microbe relationships). Anyways here they are.
View attachment 4301022
Put this trellis together, but I've noticed that if I included corner pieces that had an extra hole facing upward (4way instead of 3way), I could add a second trellis on top of this one very easily... so that's what I'm gonna do on the next build, which is happening tomorrow. I'll post the pics when I get it done. These will have removable legs so I can change the overall height, and then the option of adding a second trellis for those cultivars that like to stretch a lot in flower and require a double trellis. The second trellis will also be adjustable height, just as the first layer is. Should be pretty sweet. I'm sure someone has already come up with this design, but I have not researched into how people are building with PVC, this is just my own experiment with them.
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That's all for now.
ShLUbY
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I believe those are 30” legs, but I left the legs unglued so they could be replaced with taller ones for the different needs of different runs. I’m almost done with the double trellis system. I’ll post it tomorrow when it’s finished. Squares are 4x4 in.
Jesselikes2grow
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Thanks for the feedback, appreciate the time. If you've got a bit more, I've a few more thoughts on this I'd like to bounce off of you.Negative. You’d probably have to send in a sample if you’re on a well. If you’re on city tap, you should be able to find water reports no problem.
And yeah definitely the breakdown causing the creep up. This is specifically why I stopped using OSF. I knew there was lots of calcium coming from other sources, so I wanted to eliminate that buffer. I think I may not have gotten to it in time though. These mixes definitely had a couple recycles with OSF added. Anyway, I’m starting to really question how often we need to be remineralizing our indoor custom living soils. I have so many grow journal ideas going right now. I just wish I had the time to do them. In a couple months I will definitely have time and we will get some answers
I've read that neem meal will have acidifying aspects to it, would that be enough if say neem were to be added in large abundance? Say like a half cup top dress for a 10 gal fabric pot? Along with some other substitutions of amendments of similar acidifying types maybe? How much really can the ph be expected to drop from such items?
Do you know of a list that specifies amendments ph altering abilities or levels? Other thoughts were to cut the soil mix in half with un buffered peat (acidic)and adding in non alkaline selected amendments to bring the nutrient levels back up. If adding elemental sulfur to the soil for ph drop how much is to much before the soil would become toxic to the plant?
ShLUbY
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the double trellis prototype I built this weekend. the legs and trellis extension supports are interchangeable for different sizes to suit the needs of the plants. And bonus, the upper trellis can still be used on its own for an additional light if no second trellis is needed. This is 48x40 inches... maybe just a tad too big... but i built this in mind for the next run of plants going in. I have no choice but to put all 6 of them in at once, so i added some extra length. each plant will get a 16x20 inch spot.
ShLUbY
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Well adding neem in large abundance is going to cause you nitrogen toxicity almost surely. There are soluble components to neem, as well as all the excess nitrogen that will become part of your soil food web. I just can't see that being a good solution. Really 1/2 a cup on a 10 gal isn't all that much if that's all your topdressing with. One thing I've used in the past with decent success is Down To Earth's Acid Mix... but even that takes time to work into the soil as a topdress. It'd be much better to add it to the recycle mix, which is precisely what I'm going to do on my next recycle. Probably gonna do 1 cup per cu.ft. and skip out on the DTE Bio-Live. I'm not sure how to quantify how much acidity will drop, but I know sulfur reducing bacteria (SRB) take a good amount of time to start cycling sulfur and sulfuric acid to be produced in the soil. Unfortunately I do not know of a list, but from what it seems, Calcium Carbonate (pH up) and Sulfur (pH down) seem to be the go to standards as far as long term buffering effects. Most other things are neutral or very weak acids/bases and will not affect pH (cations and anions specifically). What we need to make note of is the soil's CEC properties are what enhance or diminish its buffering ability. A soil with high CEC (like our living soils) has tremendous buffering capacity because it can hold onto so many molecules. One thing I'm starting to think is that leaching is going to be part of the answer. Some of these ions need to be rinsed from the soil in order to make room for more protons the plant produces. Or... I need to just exhaust the soil of resources and grow more than one run before amending again to see what happens to the pH. I think this is where soil testing is just going to be the be all end all solution to how to alleviate these alkaline conditions. However, finding inputs, if calcium carbonate is in excess, that are low or do not contain this mineral is going to require some research
Cutting the mix with peat is a definite possibility. Hell I'd even consider cutting the mix with peat and not amending at all if the nutrient levels were appropriate. I just need to send some samples in and just get some data. Data is the only way to make informed decisions, otherwise you're just in the dark. From what I gathered from a couple institutional agriculture resources, it really doesn't take a lot of sulfur to drop the pH in the mix... it just takes time to get it working, and also some leaching of the excess calcitic minerals. I used their calculator to determine how much sulfur I should add to my soil, and it came out to ~1.2 oz... which was not even a 1/4 cup for 4 cu.ft. of soil. I'm gonna see where the pH ends up after a month of composting/aging (cooking as it's painfully referred to lol). Hopefully I have some SRBs present in my mix somewhere lol.
