Shitty Clones, Not growing..Could use help..

NeWcS

NeWcS

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So long story short..
Spent $120 for some 'elite' cuts. They died..
Spent $100 for some 'elite' cuts. Dude took my $ and ran..
Spent $100 for some 'elite' cuts. They are still alive(almost 5 weeks later) but not doing shit. They took around 2 weeks to root.

Once they rooted I planted them in Solo cups of coco. This is how I do all my plants. Root in cubes, then into solo cups, then into a #1 of coco then into a #5 or #7 of coco. Many, many years doing it this way.
I normally wouldn't give a shit but as you can see I have way too much $ invested to give up on them now. Like I normally do, I feed them full strength nuts from my veg res. But being that this issue has a raised I have switched to just RO water for the time being.

Any help would be great. Maybe a foliar feeding?

I'll take any input(on the issue, not the $ lol. I don't wanna hear it. I'm embarrassed enough)
 
If you were just using RO water they need some Ca ASAP. I would apply a good dose of CalMag with every watering for a while.
 
Here's some pics. The last pic is of a cut I took the day I got these other cuts of another strain I had on hand. As you can see, night and day..

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buyyouabeer said:
If you were just using RO water they need some Ca ASAP. I would apply a good dose of CalMag with every watering for a while.
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I only went with RO for the last feed. Like I said I was trying to get the coco back to a low'er ppm. I'll slowly work my way up. Unless someone thinking otherwise..
 
Feed me,Coco is meant for high fertigation rates.Maintain 90-100% water saturation.Twice even 3 times a day feed once there rooted well in those cups.
 
You’ll also be much farther ahead by going with just 2-3 gallon pots. Feed twice a day. Easy pezzey and no problems.
 
myke said:
Others have posted this it’s a good read https://www.cocoforcannabis.com/ectargets/
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Thanks! I have been growing in coco for many many years. I just need help with these clones. I don't think the issue is the coco but something with the root zone/system(which could be from the coco I guess). But as you can see from the last pic; this was taken at the same time. And no real issues. I am starting to think they never recovered from the shock of shipping!? Again, IDK.
 
Is the root zone to wet. are the roots getting enough oxygen. One of those cups looks really wet.
try using a Mycorrhizal bacteria product. I know my roots love that shit. Fingers crossed
 
NeWcS said:
So long story short..
Spent $120 for some 'elite' cuts. They died..
Spent $100 for some 'elite' cuts. Dude took my $ and ran..
Spent $100 for some 'elite' cuts. They are still alive(almost 5 weeks later) but not doing shit. They took around 2 weeks to root.

Once they rooted I planted them in Solo cups of coco. This is how I do all my plants. Root in cubes, then into solo cups, then into a #1 of coco then into a #5 or #7 of coco. Many, many years doing it this way.
I normally wouldn't give a shit but as you can see I have way too much $ invested to give up on them now. Like I normally do, I feed them full strength nuts from my veg res. But being that this issue has a raised I have switched to just RO water for the time being.

Any help would be great. Maybe a foliar feeding?

I'll take any input(on the issue, not the $ lol. I don't wanna hear it. I'm embarrassed enough)
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Didn’t see any mention of temp or humidity. I know you said you’ve done this many times before. But rooting anything has given me 100% success as long as my temp and humidity are in check.
 
Chemdog1989 said:
Is the root zone to wet. are the roots getting enough oxygen. One of those cups looks really wet.
try using a Mycorrhizal bacteria product. I know my roots love that shit. Fingers crossed
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They are pretty wet. Cause I flushed them with plain water a couple days ago. I am going to let the tops dry out and feed via a bottom feed.

Maybe I'll get some Photosynthesis Plus. What do you like?

*edit. I do dose my reserviors with BTI and Baciulls D747. So they do get some 'bennies'.
 
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Dontjudgeme said:
Didn’t see any mention of temp or humidity. I know you said you’ve done this many times before. But rooting anything has given me 100% success as long as my temp and humidity are in check.
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That all seems inline. Like I said I took cuts the same day and treated the same as these ones. I will say they didn't root for shit. 2 of them had a tip of root poking out. This is the point I put them in coco. Like you, I too have close to 100% clone rate in .~8-9 days normally. 4 days in a cloner is my 'record'. But that was in an EZ clone. :)
 
Chemdog1989 said:
Is the root zone to wet. are the roots getting enough oxygen. One of those cups looks really wet.
try using a Mycorrhizal bacteria product. I know my roots love that shit. Fingers crossed
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ps; Is Mycorrhizal a bacteria or a fungi?
 
NeWcS said:
ps; Is Mycorrhizal a bacteria or a fungi?
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Fungi. One can't grow without the other. Bacteria regulates the growth of the rhizome and they show symbiotic effect with each other.

OT: I would suggest to never clone in Coco without buffering with bloom nutes. Give them Kelp/humic mix in the feed water and as foliar to promote root growth. Best of luck!
 
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A lite foliar feed probably wouldn't hurt. help them get some extra food.
I like to let my clones dry out a lil after the first 3 days, I take off the humidy some and let them dry out a lil so they have to search for more food and water.
 
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