Setting up dtw coco 2.5x5 tent

medidedicated said:

Im committed to my latest plan. Its an improvement, I really wouldnt know what to do with 2 plants in large space until I flower it once. But making little midgets are pretty easy.

Yield wont be aimed for until I find what makes rosin, then run those for a while and improve yield per run.

I am going to pop two diff beans that are 35% thc and pics were very frosty, I think those will end up doing it and then run tester beans to slowly figure out what all strains will do it.

Is that something you could do, if one bean yields rosin and not after phenos, I can just pop it again and get similar results right? Or should I clone the plant right away and keep in clone form?

I think I got more beans than needed then. Otherwise I was going to hunt through them all and have a crap show for a while until I decide to only keep like 4 strains?

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While seeds may be similar, the chances of popping an identical one are basically zero. If you are specifically looking for a repeatable result, you are going to want to pull clones.

TCH said:

While seeds may be similar, the chances of popping an identical one are basically zero. If you are specifically looking for a repeatable result, you are going to want to pull clones.

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For example, I just yielded 15% return on my last grow, if I bought the same bean from same source, would I get similar results in terms of rosin yield? Even if its off by a little, it wont be similar? It said 23% thc, so is that another pheno that could vary drastically?

I ask as it would help decide what to do with the beans to not waste any and also, I want to do this with autos but cannot clone autos.

So if your answer is no, it would vary by a long shot, do you think I can probably get the rosin results I am looking for working with strains that the vendor says is good for extracts or just is high thc 27% and visibly frosty?

Its things like these that would advace me further in my plans and goals much faster if I asked the right person. If you don’t know much about rosin, what about you @DarkWeb what do you think?

I'm still a beginner with rosin too.

For sure you can get higher yields per plant with longer veg and bigger plants IF YOU HAVE THE ROOM. I thought from what you were talking about doing with 1-gallon pots you were trying to do a SOG with smaller plants, sorry I misunderstood.

For what its worth if you are counting OZ per sq/ft then the single cola plants in 6inch pots like I used to do was producing roughly 3-4oz/sqft. depending on strain. That was using clones with roughly 2 weeks of veg just to set the roots in the pots. Just some food for thought.

The backbone of my operation is rosin, in my garden if it dont make hash its trash. I will take down my soace cabinet if I cannot just go ok, this strain yielded good rosin, so the next 4 beans will be ran of same strain and will make note of that.

Like ok years later or months later I want to run that strain again and out of beans. I cant just buy more and assume I will have rosin so a certain degree?

I want to quickly expand strains to do that but with 5 different strains and will throw in the towel, run the box for a few years and take it down and build a better one and already know which strains will reward me so I dont have to end up with weed just sitting around.

Even if I have to have that happen a few times just to get variety. That is my plan which could be years of heartache unless someone knew and could say yea sounds like a solid plan. Fast buds and few others have autos that are bound to be hash makers, figured just run those and fingers crossed.

medidedicated said:

For example, I just yielded 15% return on my last grow, if I bought the same bean from same source, would I get similar results in terms of rosin yield? Even if its off by a little, it wont be similar? It said 23% thc, so is that another pheno that could vary drastically?

I ask as it would help decide what to do with the beans to not waste any and also, I want to do this with autos but cannot clone autos.

So if your answer is no, it would vary by a long shot, do you think I can probably get the rosin results I am looking for working with strains that the vendor says is good for extracts or just is high thc 27% and visibly frosty?

Its things like these that would advace me further in my plans and goals much faster if I asked the right person. If you don’t know much about rosin, what about you @DarkWeb what do you think?

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Seeds might produce very similar plants................. they usually will produce a variety of different plants with similarities. I've popped 1 seed and got a winner that I kept for years, and I"ve also gone through multiple packs in a row of other seeds without getting a keep at all.

If you want any consistency to the growth, length of flower, cannabinoid levels, and even the resin quantity/quality then you want to grow from clones.

Thundercat said:

For sure you can get higher yields per plant with longer veg and bigger plants IF YOU HAVE THE ROOM. I thought from what you were talking about doing with 1-gallon pots you were trying to do a SOG with smaller plants, sorry I misunderstood.

For what its worth if you are counting OZ per sq/ft then the single cola plants in 6inch pots like I used to do was producing roughly 3-4oz/sqft. depending on strain. That was using clones with roughly 2 weeks of veg just to set the roots in the pots. Just some food for thought.

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I kind of am doing a SOG but with a bigger plant. to fill 1.5 square foot which one gal coco might be overkill for considering the guy I mentioned who commented here made same setup but bigger plants and smaller pots.

As you can see though since I am looking for rosin I think I have bigger tasks to go through before worrying about yield. But 2 oz per plant was the goal at some point. 8 in a 2.5 x 5. Half gallon or one gallon pots. Ventually air layering 8 clones to speed up rooting and veg time and obey plant count.

Thundercat said:

Seeds might produce very similar plants................. they usually will produce a variety of different plants with similarities. I've popped 1 seed and got a winner that I kept for years, and I"ve also gone through multiple packs in a row of other seeds without getting a keep at all.

If you want any consistency to the growth, length of flower, cannabinoid levels, and even the resin quantity/quality then you want to grow from clones.

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I have a side project just for autos or else it will be boring just having a mini version of what I mainly already work with.

I get the pheno variance but maybe working with strains marketed to be extract producers might up my chance of surpassing the cannabinoid/terpene content needed to make at least 15% rosin return?

for example, the list of recommended strains for rosin are short in a google search but gg4 came up, I just harvested a gg4 auto by auto seeds that yielded perfect. Things like that, sources say to look for certain traits in strains that will yield what you are looking for.

As if it is something you can control to some degree by choosing highly resinous strains and bud structures that make it all happen. Is this the best I can control for my space cabinet project if to run autos only?

Chemdog was also on the list which I coincidently just planted month ago, hoping for the best. Next bean is gorilla cookies by fast buds. Said to be a great hash maker. I cant really improve much on that, can I? Just hope for the best?

Those are all good things to look at when searching through strains. Strains that are advertised as having larger trichomes might yield higher quantities of oils if the advertising is accurate. Even when working with a good base genetic, with a specific end goal of medication, finding the right plants among the seeds and using clones will give you the best results.

Even good seeds are random. You in theory get less of that as you go up in the Filial generation IF THE BREEDER DOES GOOD SELECTION WORK. You can also loose growth vigor and end up with plants just grow slow and produce less.

Man, you're just going to have to pop a shitload of seeds and find that Michael Jordan and keep a mother plant of it. I have never grown an auto, but I just can't see why anyone would bother with them.

There is a chance the super shark was just dried too long as I misread the simple how to cure method pinned in that section but its 10-15% thc which isnt much. I highly doubt a properly dried and short cure of that plant would make much difference. It was bone dry at the rig.

Just looking for feedback, for all we know my idea is fine for the space cabinet. Ya I wouldnt really bother with autos either I just do it for fun but wont be if I get a strain that dont yield. But I think its simple, RH needs be optimal in the dried weed and needs be full of resin, the kind of bud that oozes out rosin during preheat.

So siphoning is real… I was wondering if thats just some nonsense that the source I was reading at the time was claiming because I just dont see people always account for siphoning but maybe just me.

So I fill trash bin on dolly with water and has a 800gph pump in it just to pump water to fill up my fertilizer reservoir. I turned it on to pump and then turned it off for whatever reason and the water wouldnt stop. It was siphoning!! How cool. Never seem that before.

So my anti siphon holes werent for nothing and actually, when the pumps shut off, you can hear a bunch of gas escape through those holes thus, breaking the vacuum. Not important but just adding to thread if you always wondered what they meant. It will keep pumping water naturally till the levels are even, how cool!

I kept pinching the line and could feel the water rushing and the vacuum effect happening at full force as if the pump was still on. You can tell it dont take much for me to be amused can you haha.

Kongs Krush, crushin it. It is almost wide enough to fill the whole side. Flipping to flower in like 3 weeks. Feeding twice a day leafs look happy again. 1.0 EC. Reservoir is clean so the shock is working still, .3g per 10 gal. I ended up doing that to make life easier.

About to get to work setting up veg tend and move lemon bubble to it so kongs krush can get more space and turn to a flower tent that it is.

The smell in there is sooo greeeen that good veg smell of a bunch of happy vegetation.

medidedicated said:

So siphoning is real… I was wondering if thats just some nonsense that the source I was reading at the time was claiming because I just dont see people always account for siphoning but maybe just me.

So I fill trash bin on dolly with water and has a 800gph pump in it just to pump water to fill up my fertilizer reservoir. I turned it on to pump and then turned it off for whatever reason and the water wouldnt stop. It was siphoning!! How cool. Never seem that before.

So my anti siphon holes werent for nothing and actually, when the pumps shut off, you can hear a bunch of gas escape through those holes thus, breaking the vacuum. Not important but just adding to thread if you always wondered what they meant. It will keep pumping water naturally till the levels are even, how cool!

I kept pinching the line and could feel the water rushing and the vacuum effect happening at full force as if the pump was still on. You can tell it dont take much for me to be amused can you haha.

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Siphoning is as real as gravity.
A one-way check valve also works to allow air to enter the line once the pump stops.

Alright, this question been on my mind and might help me move things along faster. So you can flip when ever but 30 days is usually good and then 50 days being better when pistols show so its up to the grower. I never flipped early before but the plant will just simply flip right? Why wouldnt you?

I think veg tent can sit empty and I just put lemon bubble next to the watermelon ultra and just flip now? I want to harvest them asap and see if they meet my preferences with rosin. If they dont make 15% yield or close to it, its gone.

I got to movin things around in there and suddenly realized I could do this unless I shouldnt. I pretty much lost and forgot my notes on why you shouldnt but growers do.

I know rosin yield is related to RH but 54rh weed yielded me 15% twice one of which home grown. But then this other bag of weed tested the same rh but dropped to 51% over night but didnt yield when I pressed it at 54. I dry sifted it and yielded like 1.3gs from 16gs so all clues to junk that strain.

I got 3 weeks left till the LB and WU show pistols unless they come early like my KK did, I actually just found a calyx and pistol. So KK is ready. Can you and would you if you needed to, flip the other plants a couple weeks early?

They are 5 weeks old and usually been seeing photo plants show at like week 6-7. It would just fill in the tent enough to flip, the RH already climbing to 63 with dehuey set to 50 or 55. Just set to 45 and wondering if to flip. Never flipped early before.

Oof idk whats going on, my new setup of ventilation was working awesome but I think tent too packed and maybe dehuey starting to age. Meter says 52rh in the room, 63 in tent and 40 on dehuey. Hoping it wont be anything like that in flower.

Someone said my latest plan to do 8 clones in one gallon or half gal that it could get too packed which I did once and molded but I really, really packed rhe colas too tight together like fiberglass when harvesting, pulling it apart.

But it might be a similar scenario where mold is favorable. They said expect an oz per plant unless you want those issues. Might end up being the case idk. I did just have tent opened up but earlier it was 52rh but rhe dehuey is worrying me but sometimes its just off like that.

I did a smell check on duct and filter is still working good even though its dusty in the filter part

I feel like its an onvious question but I am reading that it is more about yield than problems but read a few things a long time ago and had someone tell me here why you shouldnt.

I got one plant that will yield a lot and two that can yield an oz for all I care but at least an oz. Press it right away and use the clones id be taking now to setup the next run and toss what doesnt meet expectations.

Sooo I am gonna flip it today.