serious work on current blow

theexpress said:

lol ive broken down kilos.... ive cooked da best rocks with ammonia.... i made a decent living off others misery for a good chunk my life.... dont ever try to tell me shit about weed yay heron or pcp.... ever.....

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telling you about what it is you do is one thing, but calling someone as knowledgeable and agreeable as canndo a dummy is a whole other deal…

theexpress said:

i remember bricks with number 5 stamp... then later came bricks with scorpian stamp on em.-

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Wow youre cool

theexpress said:

lol ive broken down kilos.... ive cooked da best rocks with ammonia.... i made a decent living off others misery for a good chunk my life.... dont ever try to tell me shit about weed yay heron or pcp.... ever.....

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dude, experts abound here, I presume by what you say that you are one. I will never ever tell you about weed, I am a rank ameture who knows what he sees, having sold it since 1970. But I will not present myself as an expert. Heroin? No, I've toyed with it and have only theaoretical knowlege, pcp? Tried it a dozen times


but blow. I've extracted it from leaves. If those I worked with smelled solvent they would throw it (litteraly once) in my face. "come back when its done".

I've seen bricks lose ten percent outgassing. That's 100 grams. (if it was an honest key, which you know was rare). I saw and made the best, boutique powder in the place.

I respect you and your work, I really do. But I know the art.

we good?

theexpress said:

i remember bricks with number 5 stamp... then later came bricks with scorpian stamp on em.-

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remember bricks before mexican cartels? those were the days.

ye

canndo said:

dude, experts abound here, I presume by what you say that you are one. I will never ever tell you about weed, I am a rank ameture who knows what he sees, having sold it since 1970. But I will not present myself as an expert. Heroin? No, I've toyed with it and have only theaoretical knowlege, pcp? Tried it a dozen times


but blow. I've extracted it from leaves. If those I worked with smelled solvent they would throw it (litteraly once) in my face. "come back when its done".

I've seen bricks lose ten percent outgassing. That's 100 grams. (if it was an honest key, which you know was rare). I saw and made the best, boutique powder in the place.

I respect you and your work, I really do. But I know the art.

we good?

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yup we good

Yeah pharma cocaine is definitely of phytochemical origin. Cocaine is a tricky molecule to make in the lab but coca plants are quite good at it. Just a lot more purification done to get everything else out that loses some product and would therefore never be attempted by illicit suppliers concerned with weight over purity. Just like Swiss pharm heroin forms a clear solution rather than the iced tea color of all but the best SEA dope.

wait..heroin in the eastern seaboard? nooooooooo......

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Yeah pharma cocaine is definitely of phytochemical origin. Cocaine is a tricky molecule to make in the lab but coca plants are quite good at it. Just a lot more purification done to get everything else out that loses some product and would therefore never be attempted by illicit suppliers concerned with weight over purity. Just like Swiss pharm heroin forms a clear solution rather than the iced tea color of all but the best SEA dope.

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but DUCK, what the hell is the oil? Mildly soluable in acetone, more so in hot acetone, seems like it is soluable in toluene.

I think what ever this stuff is, is the key to the bunk shit that everyone I spoke to's issues.

I never saw this sort of thing in a final wash. I never saw it in pasta, I have seen those red filaments in the paste.

it has no smell, I have not done anything with it thinking it may crystal out but nothing in two weeks.

you are the man here, I'm putting you on the spot.

i seen people drop glycerin on meth to make it heavy..perhaps this or something like it?

I recall watching Cocaine Cowboys and all the coke they originally imported from Medellín in its purest form was in powder and a very nice white. I think all the "rocks" we see is due to people fucking with it.

guys, the old days were such that there were several levels. Highest grade was flake or powder or ice. A cold salt made big flakes, hot salt smaller flakes, lots of acid made small specks and a poor wash caused it to stick together more than it should.

theexpress constantly got good quality that was bricked up wet.

but back then this stuff was made well and it fetched a fat price, put a couple of percent of manite on it and you covered your overhead, no one cared. Drop 80 percent a point or two and no one cared. Bit then it got to the next guy. He might just step on it for personal. The next guy down would tell himself he was an upright dude but if it was in his appartment it would be stepped in and then, as he dipped into his profits (or more often the guy who fronted it to him) the stuff got more and more hits.

then there were the reconstituters or rockers. They would cut it but their clients liked Rick, they got the notion that rocks were more pure. The drug lore kicked in and everyone had stories of what it was cut with.

I may have told this story.

I went on a drop with a guy who was proud of what I put together for him, it was ice. Amorphous and opaque. It came in big fist sized rocks. No one ever knew who I was when we went out.

my guy lined his customers uo and the said "doesn't smell", "yeah I know". A minute or two later the big k ow everything customer says "its cut with baby laxitive man". ."I just had to take a big dump".

my guy got PISSED. He said "you don't know shit" picked up this ounce and a half rock and threw it against the wall and we left. A white splat on those old style wood venere basement walls, left pieces of the rock in the shag carpet.

manitol is indeed a baby laxitiv but it takes a gram or more to make the kid shit. Good coke is no different than strong coffee, stimulants make you crap.

anyway, what I saw was not vut and I doubt much is anymore, the price is lower and it is a waste of energy. The only active cut I know is amphetamine. How much meth now? $50 a gram ? Blow is as little as a buck fifty na eighth?

the oil isn't cut. It is an artifact of production.

75 an 8th...
smak it with a hammer,if its shale it slabs of.rerock will crumble usually.

I ont fuck with coke.. But,

Thats badass canndo. You a chemist or what?.
Cool story as well. Haha.

I'll try to do some reading on cocaine production because you've gotten me curious.
How does the oil react with acid and base?
So many questions that would be easily answered by a GC/MS.

i got axcess to one 10 mins from my house..well,i.cant go in,but my good friends wife operates one at a pharm company(they make lortab i think)...send the sample. youll be a saint.

Nice! That's a good bit of news.

I have always wanted to know everything about what I like. I know cigars, mushrooms and a few other things. I am not a chemist, but I learn and am dangerously unafraid. I befrended some crooked border guards who used to move stuff in their winabegos while their friends watched.

they introduced me to the pre cartel guys and I started doing things for them. It wasn't long before they wanted me to make them high class stash that their friends couldn't get. They were a bunch of egomaniacs.

I will never forget the look on their faces when they saw that first dirty sock smelling brick dissapear into a bowl of distilled water.

my partner wound up being cleanup man. These people would travel from place to place, buying cars or boats and then leaving. My partner was the guy who had to move or sell the stuff and then catch up to them.

they finally paid for his pilots license and the real fun began, I got to do all sorts of things in all sorts of far off places.

we bailed out when we started seeing guns on tables next to the lines.

i had often thought i would sell little "cut it yourself" kits. Do the measuring, take the difference in pure and offer a little bag of cut.

you want to pay the real price? Of do you all want to fool yourselves.

sign me up! i want some real blow...not a bunch..an ounce should last me the rest of the week..lol..
in my older age i bet itd last me a few years...for real.