Self topping plants?

LockedOutSmokedOut · Dec 31, 2019

Hello roll it up I have 5 plants. Two of them are seeds I luckily found in some $80 a quarter bud. The other 3 were given to my by a client whose house I built. I noticed that they wer growing weird compare dro the other two. I just figured it was because I planted these ones a few weeks earlier. One did stunt a bit from the first nutrient feeding. (Recovering good). Anyways sorry I’m stoned. They topped themselves at a very young age. They split 2-3 mains out of the colydons. I did end up topping the largest plant and it’s beginning new growth, but still took to it differently. They’re naturally bushing out and staying low. These are pictures before I transplanted to 2 gallon and lst. Has anyone encountered this before. Or advice, since it didn’t like being topped should I just LST the others. I can’t just go back and ask the guy that gave me them.

CanadianJim · Dec 31, 2019

Weird that it's growing back where you cut it. Looks kind of like a fim to me.

jdog127 · Dec 31, 2019

Hust17 said:
Male

Pay no attention to this comment. There is not a snowball's chance in hell you can tell if this is Male female at this point.

Hust17 · Dec 31, 2019

jdog127 said:
Pay no attention to this comment. There is not a snowball's chance in hell you can tell if this is Male female at this point.

Well I didn’t want to be part of it that’s why I deleted my comment but I see male preflowers:

jdog127 · Dec 31, 2019

I'm curious how you can tell sex before you even switch light cycles.

DarkWeb · Dec 31, 2019

jdog127 said:
I'm curious how you can tell sex before you even switch light cycles.

Sometimes you can. Even on 24/0

spek9 · Dec 31, 2019

jdog127 said:
I'm curious how you can tell sex before you even switch light cycles.

I run my veg room on a light cycle of 24/0, and nearly all of my strains I can tell sex long before I go to flower. The Blueberry and Sour Diesel I'm running now I was able to identify more than half as female by the end of week four from seed in veg. It allows me to know for 100% certain which plants I can already start cloning from.

A few don't show sex like this, and the majority of the time those ones turn out to be male. I don't even bother waiting to see at that point. I just get rid of them all (unless I'm making pollen), and move ahead with what I have confirmed as female.

legitroller · Dec 31, 2019

DarkWeb said:
Sometimes you can. Even on 24/0

True statement some plants will show sex while in veg I'm no professional or scientist to say how but just some plants do..

LockedOutSmokedOut · Dec 31, 2019

CanadianJim said:
Weird that it's growing back where you cut it. Looks kind of like a fim to me.

Definitely a fim

spek9 · Dec 31, 2019

DarkWeb said:
Sometimes you can. Even on 24/0

*Raises hand*

This is how I sex almost all of my strains. There have only been three or four strains over the years that haven't shown until switch to 12/12.

LockedOutSmokedOut · Dec 31, 2019

I couldn’t get a better pic. But now that your saying it it could be a young male seed pod. This one has grown quicker than the other 2

DarkWeb · Dec 31, 2019

Males don't have seed pods but pollen sacks. And yeah I have also noticed males develop faster to spread their pollen. Now.....do you want to keep it? Some pollen in a medicine bottle can keep you growin for a while!

Kingrow1 · Dec 31, 2019

I just want to write about self topping not so much comment as looks like you fim'ed.

Self topping is from one of two causes -

Either stress caused an overabundance of the hormone which prohibits apical dominance of the growth tips as we see.in willow trees...

or

Damage to the apical tip caused it to self top.

If it happens at multiple spots id say stress caused loss of apical dominance and a condition similar or the same as whorlled phylotaxy.

:-)

Kingrow1 · Dec 31, 2019

OMG Plant Gone Crazy!

So i was wondering if this is good or bad, i have some plants and a lot of their branches have three leaves at each internode not two! Some of the branches have decide to grow into two branches like they been topped but i did not top them. I will post pics soon but like is this bad genetics or...

www.rollitup.org

Whorled phylotaxy from apical dominance loss which is basically self topping.

:-)

spek9 · Dec 31, 2019

DarkWeb said:
Some pollen in a medicine bottle can keep you growin for a while!

I mix my pollen in a 2/3rd part baking flour and 1/3rd part pollen, and put it into black 35mm camera film canisters, and put those in my seed bin in the root cellar in my basement.

The flour binds to the pollen so that when I go to paint brush it onto female plants, it's not floating around everywhere. It also sticks to the females much better, so that when I put the seed plants back into the flower room, the pollen doesn't blow all over the place, pollinating my other females.

DarkWeb · Dec 31, 2019

spek9 said:
I mix my pollen in a 2/3rd part baking flour and 1/3rd part pollen, and put it into black 35mm camera film canisters, and put those in my seed bin in the root cellar in my basement.

The flour binds to the pollen so that when I go to paint brush it onto female plants, it's not floating around everywhere. It also sticks to the females much better, so that when I put the seed plants back into the flower room, the pollen doesn't blow all over the place, pollinating my other females.

I do it almost the same way. Seeds and pollen I keep in their containers labeled. Then those are in another larger container with a desiccant pack. Then in the fridge.

old buzzard · Dec 31, 2019

I recently had a afghan hash plant (FEM) that was a twin from seed. at about day 6 from seed i cut the little weak twin down( it was only 2 days old). when the first 5 finger leaf came out on the healthy plant only one side produced a single what would become 5 leaf not 2 of them,two days later a normal 2 sided set of 5 leafs came out where missing one would have been the plant now had 2 tops both stems were healthy but sure did look funny with only one leaf on first stalk.the next 2 nodes to come out on the first stalk whatever you want to call it done the same thing again giving me 4 tops.none of the new stalks done this just the main one.it is very healthy and great looking plant at 1st week flower. 7 weeks old.the only stress the plant had was when i chopped her twin off at the soil. it has been very healthy from seed.may be common ? just never happened to me before. the 4 tops are at exactly same height now.I probley did not do a good job explaining this as I have only been using a key board and computer for 6 years very little. but been growing for many years. OH just in case you were wondering the first plant started with both seed leafs I had to remove the shells.

LockedOutSmokedOut · Dec 31, 2019

Kingrow1 said:
I just want to write about self topping not so much comment as looks like you fim'ed.

Self topping is from one of two causes -

Either stress caused an overabundance of the hormone which prohibits apical dominance of the growth tips as we see.in willow trees...

or

Damage to the apical tip caused it to self top.

If it happens at multiple spots id say stress caused loss of apical dominance and a condition similar or the same as whorlled phylotaxy.

Isn’t it crazy that only that strain did. The other two grew normal

Kingrow1 · Dec 31, 2019

LockedOutSmokedOut said:
Isn’t it crazy that only that strain did. The other two grew normal

Some strains probably fare less well to stress but here idk could just be chance or random :-)

rustyshaclkferd · Dec 31, 2019

jdog127 said:
I'm curious how you can tell sex before you even switch light cycles.

Oh boy

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