Seizures and Forfeitures

SlikWiLL13

Well-Known Member
"Damn that seems extreme!!! Do you think a few plants are worth peoples lives? "



well the enemy seems to think so, We did not make up the game, we are only players.
you guys who are ready to die for your crops are really sad. and we wonder why pot growers are portrayed as violent criminals.
 

2ill4u

Well-Known Member
Everyone will have to excuse me, I have not smoked in 3 days so my head is not clear.

I was just stating that if feds storm your place with guns, their intentions are clear.

IMO, people have the right to defend themselves and my home is a sanctuary, maybe thats part of the problem people have nothing left they can call their own.

alot of people get caught up in these ways and are scared to do anything, i would not know if i was being robbed or arrested, thats got to be a little scary.

and if someone is willing to die for what they believe in more power to them, I am not a judge and dont want to be one.


And that brings me to another point, Anyone seeking authority to me has a few screws loose, or some kind of control freak.

you see it everyday with bad attitudes from cops, all types of corruption through out the country.

oh well just my 2 cents. no one should hang me for it.





you guys who are ready to die for your crops are really sad. and we wonder why pot growers are portrayed as violent criminals.
 
They can take your house, your car, etc. Its called operating a dwelling for a narcotic/drug. This includes any place that a drug is produced, manufactured, sold, etc. which means your house, your car, your boat, your bicycle. It can all be taken. And your lights and everything else is considered paraphernalia so that will be taken as evidence. However, if you haven't fully paid off your house and the bank owns it because of a loan or whatever then the police will not take it but the bank might.
 

jh127876

Member
However, if you haven't fully paid off your house and the bank owns it because of a loan or whatever then the police will not take it but the bank might.
Why would the bank take it.... When do banks get to take your shit as long as you paid them??

Okay, the first thing I ever did was check my states laws at the NORML website. All I know is that any cultivation is 2 to life…more than a 1000 plants is 10 to life. It however does not say anything about who could be charged. I just want to know if they could prosecute my wife, (key term is prosecute) if I testify that I kept it all hidden for her safely. I mean no one knows I grow and the only way feds could find out is if Attitude seed bank gave up my credit card # or if HTGsupply gave up my credit card #. Or the feds were doing illegal shit like tapping my phones and internet. I often wonder if my ISP could bust me for the $$$. My wife could never go to jail and forgive me L. She has a spot clean record and is a NURSE for crap sake. Only one traffic ticket in her life. We have a very good lawyer who charges a 12,000 dollar retainer. So I think he could get the charges dropped for her. But I do not know, I think I will grow at my mums place… It’s an apartment though….
 

SlikWiLL13

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Why would the bank take it.... When do banks get to take your shit as long as you paid them??

Okay, the first thing I ever did was check my states laws at the NORML website. All I know is that any cultivation is 2 to life…more than a 1000 plants is 10 to life. It however does not say anything about who could be charged. I just want to know if they could prosecute my wife, (key term is prosecute) if I testify that I kept it all hidden for her safely. I mean no one knows I grow and the only way feds could find out is if Attitude seed bank gave up my credit card # or if HTGsupply gave up my credit card #. Or the feds were doing illegal shit like tapping my phones and internet. I often wonder if my ISP could bust me for the $$$. My wife could never go to jail and forgive me L. She has a spot clean record and is a NURSE for crap sake. Only one traffic ticket in her life. We have a very good lawyer who charges a 12,000 dollar retainer. So I think he could get the charges dropped for her. But I do not know, I think I will grow at my mums place… It’s an apartment though….
two questions come to mind....

1. if youve got a lawyer, once again, why ask a bunch of stoners? ask your lawyer.

2. you will jepordize your mothers freedom before your wifes?:o
 

West Coast Medicine

Well-Known Member
cops seized everything I owned for 2oz of weed, but never charged me with a crime. It was a civil proceeding and a panel of sheriffs that decided whether to take everything or not, not a jury as it should be.
and depending on what state you're in they may slam a tax evasion charge on you.... for example, texas has a marijuana stamp tax, even though it's illegal on both the federal and state level.... the purpose of that law is not to generate any sort of revenue, but to add a "aggravating" clause to the charge... (the IRS is also known to slam tax evasion charges on money generating criminal activity,at least that's what I've heard).....it's the pigs way of putting the max sentence on you.....
 

SlikWiLL13

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I was just stating that if feds storm your place with guns, their intentions are clear.
yeah, they intend on protecting themselves from people like you who say that they are going to shoot it out over a few plants.

fucking unsubscribed.:spew:
 

OregonMeds

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You can still have a happy life after being busted if you don't try to reach for the gun. Your life must really suck to throw it away over relatively minor shit whether you are right or not doesn't matter, that's just dumb. Who wins after that? They do. Who looses, WE DO not you, you're dead, it's not your problem anymore but it would be their justification for what they are doing and we'd pay for it.
 

jh127876

Member
I think someone who would kill people would have to have more crap going on than just growing dope….. And he would only get himself killed, just stick the gun in your mouth and kill yourself, that way you don't give us a bad rap and you become a martyr. You pull a gun on riot police/DEA…you are going to lose…not them…you are going to die anyways, either in prison or right there…but if you martyr yourself then that looks bad on THEM, not us. “Man kills himself for getting caught growing dope..one more victim of the drug war” Vs “ Violent marijuana drug dealer opens fire on police and endangers family” You choose.

p.s my mom smokes....my wife don't... My wife would divorse my ass if she went to jail...my mom wants to do it(grow..not go to jail). (Some one wanted to know why I would rather my mom take the risk...that's why.)
 

2ill4u

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well whats mine is mine, and if I cant have it...no one can.
and yes this is just about more than a couple of plants it is about someones right to privacy
laws need to be reformed.
and i never said i would shoot it out with a cop for the record officers
 

kraykush

Active Member
I think someone who would kill people would have to have more crap going on than just growing dope….. And he would only get himself killed, just stick the gun in your mouth and kill yourself, that way you don't give us a bad rap and you become a martyr. You pull a gun on riot police/DEA…you are going to lose…not them…you are going to die anyways, either in prison or right there…but if you martyr yourself then that looks bad on THEM, not us. “Man kills himself for getting caught growing dope..one more victim of the drug war” Vs “ Violent marijuana drug dealer opens fire on police and endangers family” You choose.

p.s my mom smokes....my wife don't... My wife would divorse my ass if she went to jail...my mom wants to do it(grow..not go to jail). (Some one wanted to know why I would rather my mom take the risk...that's why.)

lol, i dont know if im high but are you suggesting him to kill himself so that the cops are blamed. That is the most retarded thing i've ever heard, growing dope is illegal. If your bait and stupid enough to get caught than it's your fault. Watch out for snitches!
 

redivider

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if you can't do the time don't do the crime.... if you DO get caught keep your mouth shut...

the war on drugs was started by the government and constituents haven't had the balls to force it to end.... until that policy ends, and the DEA evolves from a policing agency to an education agency then be careful, lay low, and be aware that nobody's to blame for what you do except yourself....

if MJ was legalized, taxed, and regulated there would not be any problem... i could bet a million dollars (if I had it) that any DEA agent would rather be going from dispensary to dispensary to ppl's houses to inspect crops with a clip board (ensuring cleanliness and permits), than be busting in "drug houses", with reinforced doors, not knowing what's inside, guns out, praying to god it's not their turn.....

of course, it's very american to refuse to admit failure, b/c america always gets it right... JAJA....

how can we sit by and watch the DEA manufacture statistics that say the war on drugs is working.... they say there is an increase in ppl joining rehab programs, they say it's b.c. ppl want to stop using, when the truth is they want to avoid jail time.... even violent criminals fake having addictions to be able to avoid jail time by going to rehab.... then they say that ppl have gone on the record saying they are drug users then get out and commit violent crimes, making you believe that drug users are violent.... it's pathetic....
 

Astaldoath

Well-Known Member
if you can't do the time don't do the crime.... if you DO get caught keep your mouth shut...

the war on drugs was started by the government and constituents haven't had the balls to force it to end.... until that policy ends, and the DEA evolves from a policing agency to an education agency then be careful, lay low, and be aware that nobody's to blame for what you do except yourself....

if MJ was legalized, taxed, and regulated there would not be any problem... i could bet a million dollars (if I had it) that any DEA agent would rather be going from dispensary to dispensary to ppl's houses to inspect crops with a clip board (ensuring cleanliness and permits), than be busting in "drug houses", with reinforced doors, not knowing what's inside, guns out, praying to god it's not their turn.....

of course, it's very american to refuse to admit failure, b/c america always gets it right... JAJA....

how can we sit by and watch the DEA manufacture statistics that say the war on drugs is working.... they say there is an increase in ppl joining rehab programs, they say it's b.c. ppl want to stop using, when the truth is they want to avoid jail time.... even violent criminals fake having addictions to be able to avoid jail time by going to rehab.... then they say that ppl have gone on the record saying they are drug users then get out and commit violent crimes, making you believe that drug users are violent.... it's pathetic....
no offense but i think thats bull. the DEA agents love what they do, it gives them a power trip like cops, tazering pregnant women, old ladies and mothers with children.

Unless those are really the most dangerous people out there :clap:
 
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