Seeds from feminized seed

ounevinsmoke

ounevinsmoke

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Observe & Report said:
Most breeders don't talk about their male selection, that is selecting a genotype from multiple siblings.

Rarely do you even hear a suggestion that breeders are comparing the progeny of male siblings. Bodhi said of Wookie #15 that it took him a long time to find a male that reliably passed on heavy terps. Haven't seen too much else, maybe you can find some?
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I have seen many breeders describe their males which has helped me select my own. Some breeders in fact grow hundreds of plants and use males to pollinate to see which offspring produces the most fire hence my disappointment with using feminized seeds vs my success with regular bag seeds. I personally have not pollinated hundreds of fem plants.

Observe & Report said:
GSC and GG4. Both of these are the crosses of two females, GSC might even be selfed and both of these have tons of crosses that are fire, both regular and female. GSC in particular has many lines derived from it that are wildly popular.

Just because you have two plants with great genetics doesn't mean you're going to get something great when you cross them, m/f or f/f.
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GSC = (Durban poison) X (Cherry Pie) X (F1) any cross claimed was fraudulent as the thin mint pheno was in house clone only. but they did acknowledge seeds were in early buds given out so other breeders did obtain the genetics.

GG4= Sour Dubb & Chem Sis (herm) X Chocolate diesel

I'm not sure if you mean breeding with feminized plants as in a feminized plant getting pollen from a male(<what I've tried)
or feminized plants being selfed and using that pollen to cross. (<I have not tried)
 
Observe & Report

Observe & Report

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ounevinsmoke said:
I have seen many breeders describe their males which has helped me select my own.
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Where was that? Can you provide some links to those breeders describing their male selection process?

ounevinsmoke said:
GSC = (Durban poison) X (Cherry Pie) X (F1) any cross claimed was fraudulent as the thin mint pheno was in house clone only. but they did acknowledge seeds were in early buds given out so other breeders did obtain the genetics.
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Thin Mint was an in house clone only so where do all of the available cookies lines come from? Forum cut, a seed from self pollenation. The existence of tons of fire from forum cut falsifies the claim that dusting a female from a fem seed doesn't work well. Not to mention the other crosses I already posted.

GG4= Sour Dubb & Chem Sis (herm) X Chocolate diesel
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oh I thought it was just Sour Dubb x Chem Sis, thanks for the correction. Lets see, if Chem Sis pollenated Sour Dubb, that would me the seeds fems. Crossing one of those with Chocolate Diesel made one of the top cuts of the decade, winning multiple cups and spawning tons of firey new lines. That definitely falsifies the claim that fems aren't good for breeding or you can't hit a female from a fem seed with regular pollen and get fire.


There's a lot of genes in Cannabis and thus a lot of reasons why your crosses didn't come out so well. Maybe your breeding stock isn't as good as you think.

Again, nobody has offered a plausible explanation for how a female from a fem seed is different from a female from a regular seed or how a test could be devised to tell the difference.

Plenty of fire from fem seeds, even in regular packs. I bet plenty of outspoken femphobe breeders don't even know they are breeding with stock derived from fems.
 
Kingrow1

Kingrow1

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Observe & Report said:
Where was that? Can you provide some links to those breeders describing their male selection process?


Thin Mint was an in house clone only so where do all of the available cookies lines come from? Forum cut, a seed from self pollenation. The existence of tons of fire from forum cut falsifies the claim that dusting a female from a fem seed doesn't work well. Not to mention the other crosses I already posted.


oh I thought it was just Sour Dubb x Chem Sis, thanks for the correction. Lets see, if Chem Sis pollenated Sour Dubb, that would me the seeds fems. Crossing one of those with Chocolate Diesel made one of the top cuts of the decade, winning multiple cups and spawning tons of firey new lines. That definitely falsifies the claim that fems aren't good for breeding or you can't hit a female from a fem seed with regular pollen and get fire.


There's a lot of genes in Cannabis and thus a lot of reasons why your crosses didn't come out so well. Maybe your breeding stock isn't as good as you think.

Again, nobody has offered a plausible explanation for how a female from a fem seed is different from a female from a regular seed or how a test could be devised to tell the difference.

Plenty of fire from fem seeds, even in regular packs. I bet plenty of outspoken femphobe breeders don't even know they are breeding with stock derived from fems.
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have you read what i have pasted on hermies over the years? It supports most of what your saying on fem seeds. I go as far as to say that it is an independant non sexual protein that influences it and is in no way to do with the sexual genetics of the plants persay, kind of hard wired was one description used.

Always up for talking about that :-)
 
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