Seed Harvesting Question

mastermind303033

mastermind303033

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Hey, when harvesting seeds would it be a bad idea to wash the buds at harvest? I sometimes wash buds if I have a particularly bad gnat problem (recurring issue for me) but I didnt know if the water dunk would do anything to the seeds as this time I opted to try a seed run and all the girls are super preggers. I wasnt sure if somehow the water might germinate mature seeds in the buds or not, also if it might make seeds all fall out and if those are then effed from being super wet. Thanks to anyone who can help shed a little info on me lol.
 
TheSadVeryBadMadGrower

TheSadVeryBadMadGrower

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mastermind303033 said:
Hey, when harvesting seeds would it be a bad idea to wash the buds at harvest? I sometimes wash buds if I have a particularly bad gnat problem (recurring issue for me) but I didnt know if the water dunk would do anything to the seeds as this time I opted to try a seed run and all the girls are super preggers. I wasnt sure if somehow the water might germinate mature seeds in the buds or not, also if it might make seeds all fall out and if those are then effed from being super wet. Thanks to anyone who can help shed a little info on me lol.
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Pretty good question. Following for the answers.
 
OldMedUser

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Seeds generally need a period of drying before being germinated or they supposedly won't sprout but I don't know for sure if that's true as I've never tried it.

I'd maybe save some seeded buds unwashed so if they do all sprout after a wash you still have some. Or just pick out enough that if the ones in the washed buds do sprout you have seeds yet.

Let us know how it works out.

:peace:
 
Sfrigon 1

Sfrigon 1

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A lot of the seeds are going to be visible to the naked eye therefore susceptible to moisture if seeds are your thing this probably isn't a good practice
 
Sfrigon 1

Sfrigon 1

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OldMedUser said:
Seeds generally need a period of drying before being germinated or they supposedly won't sprout but I don't know for sure if that's true as I've never tried it.

I'd maybe save some seeded buds unwashed so if they do all sprout after a wash you still have some. Or just pick out enough that if the ones in the washed buds do sprout you have seeds yet.

Let us know how it works out.

:peace:
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This is really good info
 
OldMedUser

OldMedUser

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Sfrigon 1 said:
This is really good info
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I hope so. :)

When you think about it seeds in the wild lay on the ground all winter in rain and snow but don't sprout until the spring when warm weather and moisture trigger them to sprout. If you made sure your wash water is nice and cold that may help prevent them from sprouting. I would be worried about the time it takes the buds to dry after the wash. If drying somewhere warm it would be perfect conditions to sprout seeds. All snuggled up in a warm damp space sounds like just the place for a seed to want to sprout.

That being said I do my trimming fresh off the plant then keep the buds in doubled paper bags down in the basement to slo-dry for up to 4 weeks and seeded buds don't sprout out. They're moist but fairly cool.
 
Sfrigon 1

Sfrigon 1

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OldMedUser said:
I hope so. :)

When you think about it seeds in the wild lay on the ground all winter in rain and snow but don't sprout until the spring when warm weather and moisture trigger them to sprout. If you made sure your wash water is nice and cold that may help prevent them from sprouting. I would be worried about the time it takes the buds to dry after the wash. If drying somewhere warm it would be perfect conditions to sprout seeds. All snuggled up in a warm damp space sounds like just the place for a seed to want to sprout.

That being said I do my trimming fresh off the plant then keep the buds in doubled paper bags down in the basement to slo-dry for up to 4 weeks and seeded buds don't sprout out. They're moist but fairly cool.
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Interesting ty
 
mastermind303033

mastermind303033

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OK OK so luckily im in college and study this jazz. So far i just so happened to be studying growth hormones in plats and sorta got what i believe to be the correct answer. ABA is a growth hormone that counters growth and normal growth hormones like IAA (typically whats in your cloneX or other rooting gels/powders). So during the end of maturation seeds typically have an amount of IBA that washes and leeches off over winter through to spring (typically) so that the seeds dont sprout early and die in harsh conditions. With this in mind I am going to wash my plants as usual with the hope and mindset that they likely are loaded with natural growth inhibiting hormones. If anyone continues to follow or read this I might post an update on the success or failure in 2-3 weeks after everythings chopped, dried, and inspected for sprouts or rot. If i fail horribly chances are i will still get several hundred viable seeds and i saved pollen and clones anyway so can recreate any failures. By my calculations I still have like 60-70 rotations around the sun to perfect my plant lines lol
 
thumper60

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mastermind303033 said:
Hey, when harvesting seeds would it be a bad idea to wash the buds at harvest? I sometimes wash buds if I have a particularly bad gnat problem (recurring issue for me) but I didnt know if the water dunk would do anything to the seeds as this time I opted to try a seed run and all the girls are super preggers. I wasnt sure if somehow the water might germinate mature seeds in the buds or not, also if it might make seeds all fall out and if those are then effed from being super wet. Thanks to anyone who can help shed a little info on me lol.
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I have seen seeds crack an germ in buds that were seeded two weeks into flower and left to run to done.
 
Sfrigon 1

Sfrigon 1

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mastermind303033 said:
OK OK so luckily im in college and study this jazz. So far i just so happened to be studying growth hormones in plats and sorta got what i believe to be the correct answer. ABA is a growth hormone that counters growth and normal growth hormones like IAA (typically whats in your cloneX or other rooting gels/powders). So during the end of maturation seeds typically have an amount of IBA that washes and leeches off over winter through to spring (typically) so that the seeds dont sprout early and die in harsh conditions. With this in mind I am going to wash my plants as usual with the hope and mindset that they likely are loaded with natural growth inhibiting hormones. If anyone continues to follow or read this I might post an update on the success or failure in 2-3 weeks after everythings chopped, dried, and inspected for sprouts or rot. If i fail horribly chances are i will still get several hundred viable seeds and i saved pollen and clones anyway so can recreate any failures. By my calculations I still have like 60-70 rotations around the sun to perfect my plant lines lol
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What's that? Lol ,nothing pops faster then a fresh seed
 
mastermind303033

mastermind303033

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So what ima try to do real quick is I took a pod that had a clearly viable seed in it. Ima try to germinate it inside its sac normal like. And I'll try a couple of the randoms from the past couple weeks I've been picking out and see if any or all of them germinate. And if it takes a long period. If the 1 in the sac pops in the next day or 2 I'm gonna abort the mission. If none of them pop its game on. Any varied results will be left to my own indecisive decision. 15797268088626127591015933078097.jpg
 
TubeAndJar

TubeAndJar

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You can pull a seed from a plant before you chop it down and it will sprout just fine, as long as it is fully developed.
I see the point about the seed having a coating that protects it, but I still wouldn't risk the wash for fear of popping seeds or making the seeds less viable some how.
Can we get some outdoor people who seed their crop to talk about rain at the end of the flower cycle? Do you see sprouts in your buds like @thumper60 mentioned above?
 
Rob Roy

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When collecting seeds from buds, I try not to enclose them in containers right away until they've dried. Fresh seeds can mold, especially if they're enclosed with pieces of greenery. More moisture if washed, could mean greater probability of mold. Don't wash if you don't have to, or at least understand the risks involved.

Washing may be the lesser evil choice though...for instance if you're trying to rid buds of powdery mildew or fungus gnats etc. AND collect some seeds, washing may be the way to go... as long as you get them into a drying mode soon after collecting them, maybe place between paper towels in the open air to absorb any moisture, before storing them.

Like many marijuana questions, the answer might be "it all depends".
Sometimes a cure for one problem, ups the possibility of another problem occurring,
 
xtsho

xtsho

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Rob Roy said:
When collecting seeds from buds, I try not to enclose them in containers right away until they've dried. Fresh seeds can mold, especially if they're enclosed with pieces of greenery. More moisture if washed, could mean greater probability of mold. Don't wash if you don't have to, or at least understand the risks involved.

Washing may be the lesser evil choice though...for instance if you're trying to rid buds of powdery mildew or fungus gnats etc. AND collect some seeds, washing may be the way to go... as long as you get them into a drying mode soon after collecting them, maybe place between paper towels in the open air to absorb any moisture, before storing them.

Like many marijuana questions, the answer might be "it all depends".
Sometimes a cure for one problem, ups the possibility of another problem occurring,
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I let mine sit out for a couple weeks before sealing them up in airtight tubes that go into airtight containers with desiccant packs and then the fridge.


 
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grayeyes

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To correct the misinformation, out of six pots I grew out of last year, four have been discovered with 'volunteers'. Some with three 'volunteers'. No watering, no sunlight other that indirect. Cannabis seeds can be very viable.
 
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