Security warning regarding Grasscity

Sativa Dragon

Active Member
Hello Folks

Just a quick FYI, there is a Mod on Grasscity by the name of Chunk who traced my buddies IP address and PM'd him because he thought the guy had two accounts, somehow this guy found out what country, what state/province and what town he lived in, needless to say my buddy threatened the mod and was subsequently banned.

So just be aware that the Mods there will log your IP, this means that if Law enforcement gets a warrant for there servers you will be discovered.

I am not an expert on this and I hope RIU has a security measure in place to prevent this from happening.
 

757growin

Well-Known Member
Lols. Rollitup traced my shit and pmd me. I'm not scared. So they do it here as well..
Hello Folks

Just a quick FYI, there is a Mod on Grasscity by the name of Chunk who traced my buddies IP address and PM'd him because he thought the guy had two accounts, somehow this guy found out what country, what state/province and what town he lived in, needless to say my buddy threatened the mod and was subsequently banned.

So just be aware that the Mods there will log your IP, this means that if Law enforcement gets a warrant for there servers you will be discovered.

I am not an expert on this and I hope RIU has a security measure in place to prevent this from happening.
 

sunni

Administrator
Staff member
Any forum has IP checks, it a system check,
Im sure some people dont realize this, but this is not an unknown thing it happens on any forum regardless of the content of the forum itself.

When we see an IP its a long digit number that provides us with your mobile phone provider or internet provider you use, your basic general area like state, and city.
The city is almost always off , right now my IP says I live in Anchorage alaska, I live not even remotely close to anchorage.

When a user at rollitup creates a secondary account with the same IP it pops up , but just the number does, we the mod staff would have to physically check the number to see the information like service provider, state and city. And we at rollitup really dont care about that, what we care about is that someone is creating a second account under the same IP. To which than we check if its a spouse or friend creating an account or someone creating a "sock puppet" account to harass or troll the forum (which is than banned)

I cant speak for grasscity, but we at rollitup do not share this information with anyone, our mod staff are well respected people (civilians) who will not share your information.
And we on our servers side is well protected from any means of law enforcement, they cannot just come on here and get your IP.


Its really best if you fully understand what an IP address is , and how forums work before spreading mass paranoia rumors , those never help anyone. ever.
 

Sativa Dragon

Active Member
Mods on any website can see a users IP address its not hard.
If your worried just use one of those tor programs to mask ur ip
Thanks man he wasn't and he will from now on he is scared now, and I told him he shouldn't worry but now the poor guy is chopping his plants, I know he will regret it but that mod "CHUNK" is a complete dick for saying that shit to him.
 

Sativa Dragon

Active Member
Okay thanks for filling me in, I will pass it on, I didn't think they were going to rat on him but they certainly did scare the shit out of him which is just plain ignorant.

Thanks Sunni
 

sunni

Administrator
Staff member
Hes being over paranoid. it doesn't give you the exact location or house number of the person. It gives the GENERAL location/area and it isnt always correct.

I think whats happening here is you and your friend dont understand or know what an IP address is
This isnt something to be panicking about

facebook, skype, forums,google, bing searches, amazon, ebay, everything you do on a computer has your IP address logged your IP address is a long numerical number that is associated with your computer /device and your internet service provider.

some people like to err on the side of caution and they use VPN or TOR to mask their IP and bounce the signal around so that the number is not ever the same or that the IP number isnt specific to their location. (fyi if you choose to use this here at rollitup they dont always work)

No ones security was breached, the mod chuck while i cant say if hes an asshole or not, hes not a mod here i dont go on grasscity,
BUT all he did was get notified by the forum system that your buddy created 2 accounts under the same IP,
did he flex his mod muscles? i dont know i didnt see the message

When people create 2 accounts under the same IP we at rollitup message the users as well to tell them they cannot have multiple accounts here, unless one is a spouse or a roommate or something typically though users create 2 accounts to use the forum to troll and harass people with the secondary account.

at Rollitup we protect your IP addresses, we have security measures in place to make sure your accounts information like email, and IP address are safe.
Dont get too upset or worried. We have never ever had any law enforcements try to issue rollitup any type of warrant for anything ever done on our website or for IP's to be release
 

jeroly

Well-Known Member
And we at rollitup really dont care about that, what we care about is that someone is creating a second account under the same IP. To which than we check if its a spouse or friend creating an account or someone creating a "sock puppet" account to harass or troll the forum (which is than banned)
First of all, I can understand an interest in doing folks from having multiple accounts. However, to use ip addresses as anything other than just another tool and as a clue to potential fraud rather than as proof, is fraught with problems.

First of all, most folks don't have fixed ip addresses. Each time they reconnect they are assigned an address from a pool of addresses associated with their ISP.

Secondly, most people's routers use NAT (network address translation) so everyone on a home network appears to the outside world as if they're all using the same address, but the router keeps track of which device is associated with each data stream.

Moreover, what about folks who use public computers, say at a library? If someone else accessed the site from that device previously, both IDs would be linked to that same address.
 

fandango

Well-Known Member
Any forum has IP checks, it a system check,
Im sure some people dont realize this, but this is not an unknown thing it happens on any forum regardless of the content of the forum itself.

When we see an IP its a long digit number that provides us with your mobile phone provider or internet provider you use, your basic general area like state, and city.
The city is almost always off , right now my IP says I live in Anchorage alaska, I live not even remotely close to anchorage.

When a user at rollitup creates a secondary account with the same IP it pops up , but just the number does, we the mod staff would have to physically check the number to see the information like service provider, state and city. And we at rollitup really dont care about that, what we care about is that someone is creating a second account under the same IP. To which than we check if its a spouse or friend creating an account or someone creating a "sock puppet" account to harass or troll the forum (which is than banned)

I cant speak for grasscity, but we at rollitup do not share this information with anyone, our mod staff are well respected people (civilians) who will not share your information.
And we on our servers side is well protected from any means of law enforcement, they cannot just come on here and get your IP.


Its really best if you fully understand what an IP address is , and how forums work before spreading mass paranoia rumors , those never help anyone. ever.
Question here,
I have 2 computers here and was thinking I might like to use both with my same account?the other computer is windows and I should be able to start posting pictures from it,while this computer is a chrome book and will not post pictures I think?
Can I use 2 different computers on RIU?
 

sunni

Administrator
Staff member
Question here,
I have 2 computers here and was thinking I might like to use both with my same account?the other computer is windows and I should be able to start posting pictures from it,while this computer is a chrome book and will not post pictures I think?
Can I use 2 different computers on RIU?
yes of course i use my phone my table and my computer for rollitup thats totally fine. tons of people use secondary devices
First of all, I can understand an interest in doing folks from having multiple accounts. However, to use ip addresses as anything other than just another tool and as a clue to potential fraud rather than as proof, is fraught with problems.

First of all, most folks don't have fixed ip addresses. Each time they reconnect they are assigned an address from a pool of addresses associated with their ISP.

Secondly, most people's routers use NAT (network address translation) so everyone on a home network appears to the outside world as if they're all using the same address, but the router keeps track of which device is associated with each data stream.

Moreover, what about folks who use public computers, say at a library? If someone else accessed the site from that device previously, both IDs would be linked to that same address.
most folks actually do have a fixed IP address,or one thats very similar in numbers, i look at IP addresses on here on a daily basis. It creates logs of any IP address the account has used , if the person is pretty stationary its usually all the same numbers

public computers as a library , i worked at a library this website was on the banned list. so its unlikely someone would be using their public library to surf rollitup
ive never seen anyone use a public computer for rollitup, let alone MULTIPLE people who use it who would come up in the SAME location to connect both accounts together
regardless even if someone did use a public computer what does that matter? They arent breaking rules, in that case their IP would move on.
But like i said ive never ever seen a case like that , and ive been here a long time.
Youre pondering the "what ifs" to challenge our use of banning sock puppet accounts...lets us do our job :)


believe me its very easy to see when someone creates multiple accounts for the purpose of spamming the forum or trolling which is what we use IP's for in terms of banning, which is what OP's friend got banned for at grasscity...

ive been doing this job for a really long time. Im pretty well adapt to what we use the IP's for.
Its also pretty rare we have 2 accounts here that are "family" accounts, where people have themselves, their spouse or their other family members all using different accounts for our website, we arent exactly www.disney.com here.

So thank you for saying using IP is fraught with problems, but we rarely make mistakes and it works out extremely easy and for what we use IP's for.
Either than using IPs to determine "sock puppet " accounts which we are correct in determining almost all the time, we dont use IP's to give away like candy which was what OP was concerned about.
Every single forum and website tracks IP, your comments really have nothing to offer the OP who was worried about IP addresses and security issues and who sees them
The op was unaware that website track IP's at all.
 

jeroly

Well-Known Member
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Youre pondering the "what ifs" to challenge our use of banning sock puppet accounts...lets us do our job :)

l.
Huh? As I specifically wrote,

"First of all, I can understand an interest in doing [s/b stopping] folks from having multiple accounts. "

I'd actually like to say thanks for keeping this site relatively free of trolls and spammers!
 

sunni

Administrator
Staff member
Huh? As I specifically wrote,

"First of all, I can understand an interest in doing [s/b stopping] folks from having multiple accounts. "

I'd actually like to say thanks for keeping this site relatively free of trolls and spammers!
two people using the same public library computer popping up with same ip's .....its a bit of a stretch "idea"
its a very highly unlikely situation , its not happened yet
and i worked in a library rollitup was not something you could access.

dont take the comment too hard thats why theres a smiley face at the end of it :)
 

hondagrower420

Well-Known Member
Has your buddy heard about swatting?

If he plays online games. People have been known to track you down and then call in your beating your wife or making bombs and the swat team comes.

Pretty sure a kid got shot and a dog in 2 seperate incidents of "swatting".

Just a heads up. I would be more concerned about that than the mods of a marijuana based forum.
 

hondagrower420

Well-Known Member
And you just put his info all on blast.

You said he started chopping plants after this. It would be safe to assume that he is growing at his place of residence.

You really should think before you type, it seems that younger people tend to let out more personal info online than they realize.
 

sunni

Administrator
Staff member
Has your buddy heard about swatting?

If he plays online games. People have been known to track you down and then call in your beating your wife or making bombs and the swat team comes.

Pretty sure a kid got shot and a dog in 2 seperate incidents of "swatting".

Just a heads up. I would be more concerned about that than the mods of a marijuana based forum.
way to make people paranoid LOL!!!!!!
most of those "swatting" stories are false
http://www.snopes.com/media/notnews/swatted.asp

And you just put his info all on blast.

You said he started chopping plants after this. It would be safe to assume that he is growing at his place of residence.

You really should think before you type, it seems that younger people tend to let out more personal info online than they realize.
the OP's friend is just being paranoid
i can say this probably what happend

op friends made 2 accounts, one was to troll the website grasscity and be a dick
mod caught it, mod writes
"why do you have 2 accounts under one ip address"
than the user flips out and goes psycho cause he didnt realize that ip addresses are tracked on everything you do hes just ignorant to what an ip address is
 

hondagrower420

Well-Known Member
@sunni does Riu have a code of ethics regarding sensitive personal data?

When I worked for .com I had access to sensitive data. If I was caught misusing it you were subject to prosecution and terminated.

I don't think people would be allowed to be mods if they infringed upon users.
 

sunni

Administrator
Staff member
@sunni does Riu have a code of ethics regarding sensitive personal data?

When I worked for .com I had access to sensitive data. If I was caught misusing it you were subject to prosecution and terminated.

I don't think people would be allowed to be mods if they infringed upon users.
we've never had a mod who misused information like your user emails or ip addresses.
anyone who becomes a mod here is "interviewed" and post history is taken into account,, mods are volunteers we are not contracted employees
if someone applied to be a mod who has a past post history of being mean to users or flipping out , breaking rules we wouldnt take you on.
you have to generally be a good user prior to being a mod.

we demod anyone who knowingly abuses their ability to mod
if someone went as far as sensitive data like an IP address the owner would take over it
but its never happened so theres no like "rule book protocol" it just would be handled per incident.

We dont have many mods though, so we keep out numbers fairly low
 

hondagrower420

Well-Known Member
way to make people paranoid LOL!!!!!!
most of those "swatting" stories are false
Shhhh.

I have posted my hometown and state in another thread.

@anzohaze and myself are the only 2 user of Riu in own city (i think, or the other users are scared)

Charleston SC stand up (that's for the op's paranoid friend)
 
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